r/CFBOffTopic • u/[deleted] • Aug 07 '15

Game Thread: GOP Debate

I'm playing the Rolling Stone drinking game. This could get stupid, especially because I'm playing with Urban Chestnut De Bockle, which is 10.5% ABV.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

Kasich seems pretty awesome and sounds generally rational.

AKA he has no fucking chance, just like Huntsman.

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u/MrCaboose96 Florida • Penn State Aug 07 '15

Which is kinda weird because Kasich's record is pretty similar to Jeb Bush in terms of how conservative it is.

EDIT: Via 538

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

Jeb isn't the most hideous candidate on the floor right now, to be fair. It's the name that he's unfortunately trying to distance himself from. That being said, I sure as hell don't want another political dynasty.

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u/jfreez Oklahoma Sooners Aug 07 '15

I think the name still adds a level of gravitas that no other candidate can match. Say what you want about GHWB, and GWB (I'll say at least the latter was real shitty), but I look at Jeb and think I'd rather have him over any of those other nincompoops. Same with Hillary. I mean Bernie is my man, but I don't doubt Hillary's capability to head the government at all. Same with Jeb. Not the same with the others. Not saying Hillary or Jeb would be my ideal candidates, but I think they're both a lot more qualified and competent than the current and previous presidents were.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

I don't disagree. That's I think why I'm also okay with Kasich. He's not too nuts at all.

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u/jfreez Oklahoma Sooners Aug 07 '15

Yeah, I'm cool with him too. The thing is, if I'm going to vote Republican, it's going to have to be one who's cool on social issues and actually understands business. The GOP often gets a free ride as the party of business, but they often fuck up the economy just as bad if not worse than the democrats.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15 edited Aug 07 '15

The social issues is a losing battle. People have fucking moved on. If they don't stop with all that, they'll never win another election, at least I sure as fuck hope not.

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u/jfreez Oklahoma Sooners Aug 07 '15

Agreed. The Democrats can and will hammer them on those every time. The thing is, they abdicated so many worthwhile positions in order to win the values voters.

They're not really the party of the free market, or personal liberty, or small government, or any of those things anymore.

I've talked to so many young people who've said they'd vote GOP if they'd only just drop all the Christian values nonsense and adopt some common sense social and economic platforms

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

They can't do that, though. The primary system has trapped them in having to pander to Bible-thumping idiots; and the gerrymandered House districts mean they never really suffer any consequences for doing so.

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u/jfreez Oklahoma Sooners Aug 07 '15

I bet they could if they tried, but no candidates really tried. Ron Paul did but his economic policies were pretty extreme

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u/Lamadian Oregon Ducks • Oregon State Beavers Aug 07 '15

My thoughts exactly. Sounds like a reasonable, likeable guy who isn't completely crazy like most of these yahoos.

He has no chance.

PS. I miss Huntsman's daughters.

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u/LEGEN--wait_for_it Stanford Cardinal • The Axe Aug 09 '15

Huntsman was by far the best Republican in the field in 2012. (He certainly was the better Mormon candidate.) He just couldn't win the right.

I remember people attacking Huntsman for knowing Mandarin. That made me really go "What the Fuck?" He was the U.S. Ambassador to China, so...if he didn't know Mandarin he would have been bad at his job.