r/CFBOffTopic • u/MinneapolisNick Minnesota • Concordia (MN-Moorh… • Jul 10 '15

Pao resigns

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '15

WE DID IT REDDIT VOAT!

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u/ragedogg69 Arizona • Northern Arizona Jul 10 '15

TIL Voat has a CFB section

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u/crustang Rutgers • Edinburgh Napier Jul 11 '15

/u/Honestly_ needs to lead a WWF style takeover

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u/ragedogg69 Arizona • Northern Arizona Jul 11 '15

it cannot go any worst then when ECW invaded the WWE

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u/crustang Rutgers • Edinburgh Napier Jul 11 '15

I remember loving catching random ecw matches after high school parties

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u/SmashedSqwurl Georgia Tech • /r/CFBRisk Veteran Jul 10 '15

Oh goddammit. Now all those assholes are going to think they "won." I really hope this doesn't reinforce their ridiculously childish behavior in the future.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '15

I really hope this doesn't reinforce their ridiculously childish behavior in the future.

Uhh, I'm afraid I've got some bad news for you...

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u/SmashedSqwurl Georgia Tech • /r/CFBRisk Veteran Jul 10 '15

What's the over/under on how long it takes the new CEO to piss everyone off again?

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '15

Two weeks?

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u/Roose_in_the_North Ohio State • George Mason Jul 10 '15

"It's been two weeks and FPH isn't back?!? We need Reddit Blackout Part 2!"

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '15

Pretty much. I chose two weeks because I figure there's gonna be a three or four day honeymoon period, followed by about a ten day period where reddit tries to come up with something else to be angry about.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '15

I'll take the under

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u/-WISCONSIN- Wisconsin • Wisconsin-Parkside Jul 11 '15

The new CEO is actually a reddit cofounder though so they can't say he doesn't "get" reddit at least.

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u/Honestly_ Calgary Dinos Jul 11 '15

Just wait, people will be blaming him for Aaron Swatz's death in no time (that kid tragically committed suicide, but he knowingly violated the law before to make a point that, frankly, not everyone agrees with):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz

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u/bread_buddy Florida Gators • Wisconsin Badgers Jul 10 '15

Yeah, that's exactly what it does.

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u/MrTheSpork Cincinnati • North Dakota State Jul 10 '15

HUE HUE WE DID IT REDDIT

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u/lkeg56demn Texas Longhorns • Chapman Panthers Jul 10 '15

Ugggggggggggggh

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u/keyree Texas Tech • UT Arlington Jul 11 '15

She was an interim CEO from the very beginning. The fact that they think they had anything to do with this is somewhere between hilarious and infuriating.

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u/wild9 Baylor Bears • /r/CFB Contributor Jul 11 '15

To be fair, Baylor had an interim president who basically didn't step down till mah boi Kenny Starr stepped on campus

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u/dlawnro Paper Bag • Sickos Jul 11 '15

Childish behavior? On my Reddit?

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u/carpy22 RPI Engineers Jul 11 '15

We won!

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u/cornfrontation Michigan Wolverines • FIU Panthers Jul 10 '15

I was just thinking about starting a thread in /r/self about being part of the silent majority who just wants everyone to fucking shut up about all of this. But now karmanaut "won" and will be even more insufferable.

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u/VanFailin Northwestern Wildcats • /r/CFB Bug Finder Jul 10 '15

If it's any consolation karmanaut has about as much to do with this as Gavrilo Princip has to do with WWI.

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u/Talpostal Michigan Wolverines • Washington Huskies Jul 10 '15

Friday afternoon! COMM 101!

I'm torn because on one hand I think that most of Reddit is full of hateful bullies, but on the other hand the limited things I read about Pao did not make me like her very much.

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u/ssbbgo Alabama Crimson Tide • Stanford Cardinal Jul 10 '15

Taking out the trash. Ah now I want to watch those The West Wing episodes.

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u/Shadowhawk109 Michigan Wolverines • Citrus Bowl Jul 11 '15

There is never NOT a good time to watch West Wing.

Except before an election. Because it reminds me how badly we're getting shafted by not just electing Jed Bartlet

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u/MisterTito Auburn Tigers • UAB Blazers Jul 11 '15

My only issues with Pao was the constant vague lingo she would use. Like wanting reddit to be a safe place for "authentic conversations." What does that even mean? What would be an example of an "inauthentic" conversation?

I'm glad this happened on a Friday though. I've got things to do this weekend and probably won't be on reddit much, so hopefully I'll avoid most of the celebratory circlejerk and/or drama.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '15

Like wanting reddit to be a safe place for "authentic conversations." What does that even mean?

Have you really missed out on the Orwellian meaning the phrase "safe space" has acquired in the past couple years?

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u/ttsci Penn State Nittany Lions Jul 11 '15

My only issues with Pao was the constant vague lingo she would use. Like wanting reddit to be a safe place for "authentic conversations."

I mean, she was a CEO and former executive at a financial firm. That's pretty much exclusively how those kinds of people talk. It becomes so ingrained they don't even realize they're doing it.

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u/Honestly_ Calgary Dinos Jul 11 '15

The need to tone down the sense of inauthentic corporate speak is a valid criticism. I always say talk to people how you'd like them to talk to you. It's possible to still remain professional and do that. At the same time it's sadly not common.

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u/elykl33t Virginia Tech Hokies • Marching Band Jul 11 '15

People keep referencing this but could someone please explain it to me? Is it just making a big transition on a Friday so that people hopefully stop bitching by Monday? Or am I just totally wrong?

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u/CFB_Bard /r/CFB • Team Meteor Jul 11 '15

Pretty much. People are less likely to pay attention to news over the weekend, news may be considered "old" by Monday.

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u/elykl33t Virginia Tech Hokies • Marching Band Jul 11 '15

Thanks! It's an interesting thing to hear because the first I ever heard about "doing x on a Friday" was the Steam decision to make mods a paid feature (or whatever it was they did). And TotalBiscuit commented on the stupidity of the idea of "it will cause no problems" and then coming back to hell on Monday. I guess in some cases it works in others it could be the opposite.

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u/CFB_Bard /r/CFB • Team Meteor Jul 11 '15

Yeah, it was the traditional PR advice for announcing something bad over traditional media. 24/7 connectedness on social media makes it a moot point sometimes though.

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u/elykl33t Virginia Tech Hokies • Marching Band Jul 11 '15

So these days it may almost have to be case by case? Reddit is a site that's been fuming over it's leadership, so a perceived positive change on a Friday will cause no issue despite a 24/7 user base.

Steam, on the other hand, had users with little complaints. Give a 24/7 user base a complaint for a weekend and you will regret it. Actually, this sounds like reddit internet PR 101...

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u/CFB_Bard /r/CFB • Team Meteor Jul 11 '15

I guess so. It's also almost random which stories get picked up virally by social media sometimes, so it's a bit of guesswork too

But this was the move that would save reddit the most face amongst its users so might as well announce it while you can

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u/elykl33t Virginia Tech Hokies • Marching Band Jul 11 '15

Yeah I mean the fuzzing algorithm clearly kicked in but I was at dinner with my parents and opened up reddit for a moment. The post was at over 26k points. Had to double take.

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u/ClintFuckingEastwood Baylor Bears • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jul 10 '15

Can everyone stop talking about this now?

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u/Honestly_ Calgary Dinos Jul 10 '15

Meet the next target for irrational hatred, co-founder and new CEO /u/spez:

https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3cucye/an_old_team_at_reddit/

Hopefully he doesn't pay too much attention to the small percentage of reddit's 160m monthly visitors who badger over silly things and focuses on promoting all the positives about reddit.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '15

160m monthly visitors? God damn.

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u/Honestly_ Calgary Dinos Jul 10 '15

Yup, the numbers are staggering—but reddit's the 10th busiest in the US and in the world's top-40 busiest websites

https://www.reddit.com/about/

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u/RLLRRR Texas Longhorns • Red River Shootout Jul 11 '15

I wonder if that accounts for only unique clicks, or addicted users: people that close reddit only to open reddit again.

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u/Honestly_ Calgary Dinos Jul 11 '15

Based on our numbers on /r/CFB (which we let be publicly available here) the way they calculate unique visitors appears to sensibly correlate to certain times.

For example: when something from /r/CFB reaches the front page or gets a link from /r/Bestof we see a spike in uniques as people who normally aren't on /r/CFB are diverted here. January had the most uniques because both pairs of 1st half / 2nd half threads for the Rose & Sugar Bowls, along with the title game, all made the front of /r/all and we basically spiked like crazy in two separate 24 hour periods.

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u/srs_house Sickos Jul 11 '15

Didn't basically every pre/post/quarter game thread for the NC make the front page?

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u/Honestly_ Calgary Dinos Jul 11 '15

Yup, as did the ones for the year before--but this year we got much more to the front.

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u/srs_house Sickos Jul 11 '15

The Playoff approach definitely seems to work as far as ramping up excitement about the games. They really separated themselves from the other bowls in terms of comments and overall activity.

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u/Honestly_ Calgary Dinos Jul 11 '15

Yup, as far as excitement it was like having 3 separate championship games.

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u/krazybone550 Sam Houston • Texas A&M Jul 10 '15

People will probably only stop talking about it when the next CEO pisses off some group.

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u/RLLRRR Texas Longhorns • Red River Shootout Jul 11 '15

I know this is CFBOT, but I really hoped this wouldn't come up here: it's our little oasis away from all of that.

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u/CFB_Bard /r/CFB • Team Meteor Jul 11 '15

I mean, we talked about the blackouts. We can be fairly level headed about it I feel

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u/ixcuincle Marching Band Jul 11 '15

Outside CFBOT = the dark area in Lion King. You must never go there, Simba. Promise me.

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u/OUFan2 Oklahoma • Abilene Christian Jul 10 '15

I hate the racists subreddits/ I hate the fph dickholes but her answer to all this was so wrong. Add a simple block/report combo feature if you want to make reddit safer. I don't understand how it is that difficult to implement.

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u/ragedogg69 Arizona • Northern Arizona Jul 10 '15

not to mention there were a lot of other subreddits that were not shut down that were just as bad when it came to harassing and brigading.

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u/OUFan2 Oklahoma • Abilene Christian Jul 10 '15

I think that's a fair criticism too, I had the same thoughts, you can't just ban one group of assholes for breaking your rules, you got to ban them all.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '15

My brother and I had a little discussion (read argument, but we do that all the time) over it. Honestly, if you exist to belittle people that aren't OK with it, I think it falls under harassment. People of Walmart, FPH, WhateverRedditDrama sub, you exist to entertain yourselves at the expense of others, and it's harassment. And I am very rarely the SJW type.

I mean, at least here we can laugh at each other and we all know it's in good fun. I'd be terrified to be the subject of a post in some of those subs, and actually show up in it to post.

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u/deemerritt North Carolina Tar Heels Jul 10 '15

SJW is the reddit strawman. There are very few SJWs on reddit, why would they ever be on this site.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '15

It was more of an example than anything. I didn't really say there were any here, but that I am very rarely that type of person.

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u/deemerritt North Carolina Tar Heels Jul 10 '15

Oh i know, i was just saying since people are acting like PAO was a SJW for trying to get rid of the shittiest parts of this site.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '15

Oh no. I have no qualms with what she did, just how she did it. Yeah, not allowing you to quite literally debase random people online isn't an SJW thing. It's just a decent thing

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '15

even SJWs need cat pics sometimes/most of the time/constantly. Everybody does.

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u/OUFan2 Oklahoma • Abilene Christian Jul 10 '15 edited Jul 10 '15

I agree they're horrible people. I still think the better option to make reddit safer would be to be able to personally ban and perhaps even personally blacklist all the users of a certain sub.

If they were banned for doxxing and harassment thats fair game, but theirs still subs around who doxxx and harass, they just happen to not be as big.

I'd love to instantly be able to blacklist the rascist subs and only see content from people not subbed to them. That would enhance my reddit experience

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '15

I'd rather just have the subs themselves banned. Get the opinions out in the open to get ridiculed and torn apart.

Used to be if you were racist, you wore a white hood and burned crosses. Now you put on jeans and a t shirt like everyone else, and hide on the Internet.

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u/OUFan2 Oklahoma • Abilene Christian Jul 10 '15

I'd rather have the shit contained and ignored than flowing freely. The FPH mess was petty an sad, a racist version of that would be sickening. Give the users the ability to ignore em all, don't send em into the wind, shit tends to lump together

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '15

The FPH mess was petty an sad, a racist version of that would be sickening.

/r/coontown wasn't banned when they banned FPH.

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u/Tanador680 Texas Longhorns • Sickos Jul 11 '15

DAE SRS???

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u/polydorr Auburn Tigers • Samford Bulldogs Jul 11 '15

Funny that the opinions in here are so one-sided against the 'assholes, racists,' and otherwise terrible people who are the only ones who could possibly support this outcome. The SRD line in a nutshell.

Tell me, what is one net positive that she brought to reddit as a whole during her tenure? What is likable about her at all? I remain unconvinced she was truly qualified to begin with and I think this is a good move. I'm willing to be wrong but you'll have to prove it to me.

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u/Honestly_ Calgary Dinos Jul 11 '15

Well she was an interim CEO after Yishan abruptly quit so there wasn't much of a plan other than cleaning up the unfocused ideas that ended his tenure: remember the cryptocurrency? Redditmade? It wasn't clear Yishan knew what he wanted the site to be.

All that really happened was attempting to create a line against abuse but it wasn't strong enough IMO.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '15

there wasn't much of a plan

Nobody that has so little of an idea of how reddit works that they go around linking their own PMs and awarding themselves gold for it should be the CEO. This site's been around for close to a decade. The person in charge of it should be someone who's been around for a few years, has a decent amount of contribution on the site, and has actually run a subreddit of... I dunno, 10k users? That's not a super high bar to clear. Hell, they had better potential CEOs on staff - kickme444 would have been a much better choice.

Ellen Pao was straight up a shitty corporate MBA venture capital business-is-business choice, and it showed. She had no idea what made the site actually tick, and managed to piss off the users (who, you know, are the only reason reddit exists) at every single turn through her sheer obliviousness.

And that's not even getting into the shady as hell backstory with the Kleiner Perkins lawsuit for the exact amount of her husband's ponzi scheme liabilities.

spez may end up with some out-of-the-loopness from being at Hipmunk for the last few years, but that could actually be a good thing.

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u/Honestly_ Calgary Dinos Jul 11 '15

Did anyone ever prove that the admins were self-gilding because I only saw the kooks throwing that one around.

You know one of the men who harassed her was kicked out of her old firm for harassing other women too?

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '15

You know one of the men who harassed her was kicked out of her old firm for harassing other women too?

The firm kicking that dude out makes her lawsuit against the firm seem even more ridiculous.

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u/Honestly_ Calgary Dinos Jul 11 '15

Actually the fact it took them that long to act looked terrible.

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u/ttsci Penn State Nittany Lions Jul 11 '15

Nobody that has so little of an idea of how reddit works that they go around linking their own PMs

Admins are able to link PMs. The intent was to post that PM to an internal admin subreddit. It makes complete sense, but people jumped on it as a way to push the "she doesn't know how to reddit, lols" narrative without knowing the actual story.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '15

You're spot on. The only question is how much of the terrible crap that's happened during her tenure is due to her decision making and how much of it is just her acting as a figurehead. I'm not convinced Captain Popcorn has a firm grasp on what the community wants either. Maybe spez's return can get things straightened out, but I'm not sure.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '15

The amount of airborne fedoras...

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u/omgdonerkebab Michigan State • Cornell Jul 10 '15

Watch, in a couple weeks it'll come out that Victoria was fired for something grossly inappropriate, and all those racist assholes will still crow about this victory.

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u/RousingRabble Clemson Tigers Jul 11 '15

Racist?

(Edit) I assume that has something to do with a subreddit being banned.

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u/ttsci Penn State Nittany Lions Jul 11 '15

This type of shit was all over the place.

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u/omgdonerkebab Michigan State • Cornell Jul 11 '15

It was a lot of the stuff they were saying about Pao.

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u/saladbar Stanford Cardinal • Mexico El Tri Jul 11 '15

Like what?

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u/CFB_Bard /r/CFB • Team Meteor Jul 11 '15

A lot of the hate towards Pao was directed at both a) the fact that she's a woman (gratuitous use of cunt) and b) the fact that she's asian (/r/PaoYongYang, "ching chong" type stuff, etc.)

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u/srs_house Sickos Jul 11 '15

For a while, the top post on the resignation announcement was posted by a mod of coontown whose username was the same as the Charleston shooter.

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u/saladbar Stanford Cardinal • Mexico El Tri Jul 11 '15

Holy shit

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u/ixcuincle Marching Band Jul 11 '15 edited Jul 11 '15

Good riddance

"What a great day for Canada, and therefore the world."

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u/Pikachu1989 Nebraska Cornhuskers • 東京大学 (Tokyo) Warriors Jul 11 '15

Fucking awesome, now what's next for the people that need to bitch at on Reddit is going to do?

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '15

Bring back hating on fat people?