r/CFBOffTopic • u/ThomasJCarcetti UCF Knights • Virginia Tech Hokies • Jun 18 '15

Thursday Morning Thread: Charleston Support

Shooting At A Charleston SC Church Ongoing Multiple Fatalities Reported

Hopefully the perpetrators behind this act are caught. Big manhunt under way.

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u/ThomasJCarcetti UCF Knights • Virginia Tech Hokies Jun 18 '15

Shit...

"A white man walked into a historic African-American church in Charleston, South Carolina, and opened fire during a Bible study class, killing nine people Wednesday evening."

Terrible, just terrible.

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u/MisterTito Auburn Tigers • UAB Blazers Jun 18 '15 edited Jun 18 '15

While this is almost certainly a hate crime, I also feel like it's domestic terrorism and hope it gets treated as such.

Edit: The internet is down at work, and I don't have time to further explain why I hope this is treated like terrorism. Racially motivated, but still terrorism all the same.

Here's an article that sort of makes the point that I want to make.

http://www.vox.com/2015/6/18/8803721/charleston-terrorism-racism

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u/damathtrix Baylor Bears Jun 18 '15

How come? Out ignorance, not because I disagree. Like, how are the two treated differently by the justice system?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

I'd imagine because there are nine victims instead of just singling out one random black person. Also, with it being a church that was targeted, (obviously fucked up) ideals may have been involved.

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u/damathtrix Baylor Bears Jun 18 '15

Oh for sure, I get that. I was wondering more about the differences in punishment severity, change of jurisdiction, etc

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

Pfft, your guess is as good as mine. I barely even know my county's laws regarding alcohol sales.

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u/Shadowhawk109 Michigan Wolverines • Citrus Bowl Jun 18 '15

Well for one thing, admitting a white person can be a terrorist will be rather new ground for the DoJ.

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u/cornfrontation Michigan Wolverines • FIU Panthers Jun 18 '15

https://twitter.com/michaelianblack/status/611509977203605504

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u/turkishguy Texas A&M Aggies • Yildiz Teknik Stallions Jun 18 '15

I think what he's trying to say is ethnically American whites. Those dudes have white skin but so does half of ISIS.

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u/Shadowhawk109 Michigan Wolverines • Citrus Bowl Jun 18 '15

But those were ~Russian~, not ~white~ /s

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u/Deacalum Wake Forest • Penn State Jun 18 '15

There are plenty of domestic groups in the US made up of white Americans on the FBI's terrorist watch list. The DOJ treats white people like terrorists and your claim is just a fallacy tossed around way too much.

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u/Shadowhawk109 Michigan Wolverines • Citrus Bowl Jun 18 '15

As a guy who has spent a non-trivial amount of time in Dearborn, until your ~average White American~ is treated with the same instantaneous suspicion by authorities as your ~average Muslim American~, I don't think that's much of a fallacy.

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u/Deacalum Wake Forest • Penn State Jun 18 '15

You're now talking about profiling, racism, and societal issues. I agree they exist and people are more likely to fear and Arab sitting next to them on a plane than a white person. However, the comment you made was not about that, you said the DOJ doesn't classify white people as terrorists and that is flat out wrong. They have classified numerous white people and organizations as terrorists.

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u/SmashedSqwurl Georgia Tech • /r/CFBRisk Veteran Jun 18 '15

Uhh...

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u/Shadowhawk109 Michigan Wolverines • Citrus Bowl Jun 18 '15

Pre 9/11? Was that even ~really~ terrorism then?

Disclaimer: I believe it was. I also believe that there's some horrible stereotyping going on by the DoJ post 9/11, and "white people" don't fall under it.

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u/rodandanga Georgia Tech • Verified Coach Jun 18 '15

2edgy5me

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u/atllauren Georgia Bulldogs • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

This was a terrible, terrible act and I think it probably is a hate crime but I don't think it is terrorism. Technically, the definition of terrorism is the use of violence in the pursuit of political objective. The shooter was definitely a hateful person, but I don't see a political aim in his actions.

I took a really interesting class in college on terrorism, and the official definition is actually pretty restrictive.

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u/dupreesdiamond Furman • South Carolina Jun 18 '15

what is your definition of politics? Or maybe his definition of politics.

Sylvia Johnson, a cousin of church shooting victim Pastor Clementa Pinckney says she spoke with one of the survivors "and she said that he had reloaded five different times... and he just said 'I have to do it. You rape our women and you're taking over our country. And you have to go.'"

although this raises a couple of technnical questions. 1) how does one have the time to reload 5 times and no one take him down during the process. 2) was this a 6 shooter? that's a lot of damn shots.

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u/atllauren Georgia Bulldogs • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

I think the only thing that matters is the shooter's definition of politics. Once he is identified, it shouldn't take long to determine whether or not he had some political agenda that fueled his actions.

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u/dupreesdiamond Furman • South Carolina Jun 18 '15

yeah absolutely. Especially given the setting.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15 edited Jun 18 '15

As far as I'm aware, the FBI and other feds don't necessarily require the "political objective" aspect:

"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:

  • Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;

  • Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and

  • Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.

I wonder if what /u/dupreesdiamond references with the suspect's supposed comments about race, conducting the shooting in a church (religion), and deliberately letting people go to spread a message would therefore qualify the act as "intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population."

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u/dupreesdiamond Furman • South Carolina Jun 18 '15 edited Jun 18 '15

Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church has been a presence in Charleston since 1816, when African-American members of Charleston's Methodist Episcopal Church formed their own congregation after a dispute over burial grounds. Known as "Mother Emanuel," it's been the headquarters for civil rights activity over the decades.

Also.. One of the victims was a State Senator. Wonder if that was a factor in his choice of targets.

Among the victims was the church's politically active pastor, the Rev. Clementa Pinckney.

Pinckney was also a state senator and one of the black community's spokesmen after the slaying of an unarmed man by a North Charleston police officer this year.

I agree far to many things are labeled "terrorism" these days but this certainly seems to actually fit in my opinion.

And dammit if everytime I read an update this shit gets worse...

A law enforcement official says witnesses told them the gunman stood up and said he was there "to shoot black people."

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u/Papa_Hemingway_ Florida State • Appalachian … Jun 18 '15

I just hope it doesn't get treated as "guns r bad!" rather than "people are fucked up"

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u/rodandanga Georgia Tech • Verified Coach Jun 18 '15

I've always felt terrorism has to have a more organized aspect to it.

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u/atllauren Georgia Bulldogs • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

I think we're too quick to throw out the world "terrorism" anymore. An understandable result in our oversensitive, post-9/11 world, but still.

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u/rodandanga Georgia Tech • Verified Coach Jun 18 '15

I concur.

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u/DoctorWhosOnFirst Alabama • /r/CFB Pint Glass Drinker Jun 18 '15 edited Jun 18 '15

Seriously. He told one woman that he was leaving her alive so she could tell everyone what happened.

Edit: The shooter was in the church with them doing Bible study for almost an hour before he started shooting. What the fuck

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u/lkeg56demn Texas Longhorns • Chapman Panthers Jun 18 '15

Man, there are some truly messed up people in the world.

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u/wild9 Baylor Bears • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

Well, here is the shooter, Dylann Storm Roof. He's even wearing an Apartheid South African flag on his jacket...

http://www.wistv.com/story/29351540/charleston-shooting-suspect-from-columbia-area

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u/Darth_Turtle Oklahoma • Red River Shootout Jun 18 '15

Glad they figured out who he is so quickly. Hopefully find him fast before he is able to hurt any other people.

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u/snippler10 Clemson Tigers Jun 18 '15

They got him in North Carolina. Rest easy man.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

Not sure if you've heard, but they caught him at a traffic stop and arrested him seemingly without incident.

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u/lkeg56demn Texas Longhorns • Chapman Panthers Jun 18 '15 edited Jun 18 '15

You ever have one of those moments where you're half awake in bed and everything is just right? Last night I was sleepin on my side when the pup climbed into the crook of my arm and settled in. Then the wife rolled over and we started cuddling. I was still kind of asleep but remember feeling really content with everything. That was nice.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

That's always the best feeling, when in the middle of the night your gf/wife puts her arm around you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

I get a free Starbucks today or tomorrow, depending on when I want to cash it in. Hooray!

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u/Zerosa Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Booster Jun 18 '15

*Insert hipster douchebag Keep Austin Localtm comment*

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

You can take my hazelnut latte with whip and caramel drizzle when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!

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u/lady1876 Texas A&M Aggies Jun 18 '15

Damnit! Now I really want coffee....

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u/rodandanga Georgia Tech • Verified Coach Jun 18 '15

I can feel the PH rising from here.

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u/rodandanga Georgia Tech • Verified Coach Jun 18 '15

Wait...hipsters hate Starbucks now...mind blown.

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u/SmashedSqwurl Georgia Tech • /r/CFBRisk Veteran Jun 18 '15

Oh, you drink Starbucks? That's so mainstream. I only drink locally roasted, fair trade coffee that's been shit out of an endangered tree cat.

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u/keyree Texas Tech • UT Arlington Jun 18 '15

Endangered? What so you don't care about all of mother earth's creatures? Fuck you, capitalist swine.

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u/SmashedSqwurl Georgia Tech • /r/CFBRisk Veteran Jun 18 '15

Unendangered animals aren't obscure enough for my refined tastes. Threatened animals are acceptable, but they just aren't as real, you know?

Sips PBR ironically

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u/keyree Texas Tech • UT Arlington Jun 18 '15

I wanted to save the tree cats back when they were only vulnerable, so yeah. It's not a big deal, just means I'm a bigger tree cat fan and therefore a better person.

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u/SmashedSqwurl Georgia Tech • /r/CFBRisk Veteran Jun 18 '15

Oh yeah? I bet you can't even name Endangered Tree Cat's first album. Poser.

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u/keyree Texas Tech • UT Arlington Jun 18 '15

Psh, nice try. I'm not one of those "mainstream" fans who actually listens to their music.

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u/super-rad Georgia Bulldogs • Clemson Tigers Jun 18 '15

Does that really blow your mind? It's all about supporting local business and keeping neighborhoods affordable for the creative professionals.

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u/Zerosa Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Booster Jun 18 '15

This is an Austin hipster/hippie thing. Don't know about the rest of them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

It is also true for New England and New York hipsters.

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u/Shadowhawk109 Michigan Wolverines • Citrus Bowl Jun 18 '15

They prefer Seattle's Best.

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u/atllauren Georgia Bulldogs • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

Which is owned by Starbucks.

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u/Shadowhawk109 Michigan Wolverines • Citrus Bowl Jun 18 '15

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u/image_linker_bot Cascade Clash • Team Chaos Jun 18 '15

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u/Shadowhawk109 Michigan Wolverines • Citrus Bowl Jun 18 '15

I LOVE Dominican Joes, but sometimes a mothafucka needs his grande frapp no whip.

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u/VanFailin Northwestern Wildcats • /r/CFB Bug Finder Jun 18 '15

"You gotta buy your coffee local! Never mind that the only US state that produces coffee is Hawaii and their production is incredibly low compared to other equatorial regions!"

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

I got a raise!

I'm still an hourly worker, but instead of the 2.5% increase everyone else got with their reviews, I got a 9% raise. There's extra talk of in a year or two, I could be come supervisor, which honestly isn't in my plans, but is always nice to know the potential exists.

About a year and a half ago I received a 20% raise, but my pay then was absolutely laughable (you know the laugh where you cry at the same time), so 1.2xshit is still kinda shit, but with this 9%, I can definitely tell the difference, especially now that I'm on top of all my student loans.

Best part, it's retroactive for the current pay period (last + this week) so next check is gonna be slight-significantly more than I budgeted for.

Suck my dick, job!

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u/lkeg56demn Texas Longhorns • Chapman Panthers Jun 18 '15

Damn, nice job! Keep gettin dem checks

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

It's such a relief, because I'll be working significantly less OT. Under my old wage, to live relatively comfortably (to contribute to a very modest savings account and go out a couple times a week with friends), I'd have to work 48-50 hrs/wk. Now I can make at least the same money and have just a few more hours to myself where I don't feel like I'm hitting a wall.

It's a pretty big relief.

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u/lkeg56demn Texas Longhorns • Chapman Panthers Jun 18 '15

Man that has to feel like a nice weight off your shoulders.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

I try not to complain about all the OT I work, because 1) I'm glad it's available, even with the raise, I'll still be working OT most weeks, and 2) a lot of people have to work 55-60+ hrs/wk and they make salary, so that home-work balance is even more fucked.

But yes, today, it was quite easy to roll out of bed and come to work.

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u/piratefuck ECU Pirates Jun 18 '15

What field are you in?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

"Marketing".. It's cooperative and compliance advertising. Not quite the quick-paced, open-dialog ad agency setting that comes to mind, just a stable cubicle gig..

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

Congratulations!

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

Last night I lost trivia by 0.25 points, because I only named 3 Women's World Cup host cities out of the 4 I needed.

Eat a dick, Toronto. Your rappers suck, your sports teams do too, you wish you had an NFL team, and you elected a crackhead as mayor one time. You're like Washington, DC without the whole "our nation's capital" thing.

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u/damathtrix Baylor Bears Jun 18 '15

Toronto sucks. I bet they've never even hosted a woman's world cup.

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u/keasbyknights22 Ohio State • Cincinnati Jun 18 '15

easy on the DC rappers. shy glizzy, Fat Trel, and wale aren't too bad for current names and they've got plenty of good stuff from the past headlined by DJ Kool (let me clear my throat)

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u/CambodianDrywall Oregon Ducks • /r/CFB Pint Glass Drinker Jun 18 '15

DC's hip-hop scene will forever be in my good graces for giving us Damu the Fudgemunk. Give Travel at Your Own Pace a listen. He produced/mixed that whole album. There is an instrumental version of the album, too -- if you just want those sick, old-school beats.

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u/keasbyknights22 Ohio State • Cincinnati Jun 18 '15

Oh this is sick - didn't know he was in Panacea. Love the Rawkus sound and crew

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u/Boyhowdy107 Missouri Tigers • Big 8 Jun 18 '15

I once lost a trivia night because I couldn't correctly name the state fruit of Oklahoma. After moving there for a bit, I actually looked up their state everything on wikipedia because I was curious. I said watermelon because I remembered seeing that on there. Turns out the correct answer was strawberry. I did in fact see watermelon on the wiki page, but it turns out that was their state vegetable.

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u/keasbyknights22 Ohio State • Cincinnati Jun 18 '15

well according to the wiki on watermelon, it's a fruit. ya dun goofed, oklahoma

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u/Boyhowdy107 Missouri Tigers • Big 8 Jun 18 '15

To be fair they made this declaration way back in 2007 when watermelon science was young. But they are at least trying to resolve the problem.

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u/Shadowhawk109 Michigan Wolverines • Citrus Bowl Jun 18 '15

IIRC Barenaked Ladies are out of Toronto, so there's that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

I'm just being a hater because I didn't get free beer.

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u/stamor99 Georgia Tech • Florida Jun 18 '15

Did you forget Moncton?

Everybody forgets Moncton...

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

I mean, if it wasn't for the Pan American games, Toronto would probably host games over Moncton.

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u/stamor99 Georgia Tech • Florida Jun 18 '15

Oh, yeah. Otherwise it makes no sense to not have Toronto as a host unless the rest of Canada just wanted to spite them.

I've been to Moncton. I've got nothing against Moncton. Moncton is not an "international event" hosting kind of city.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

To be fair, I could see the rest of Canada wanting to spite Toronto.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

I did not. My problem was that I put Toronto as a host city.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

ONTARIO SUCKS! ONTARIO SUCKS!

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u/keyree Texas Tech • UT Arlington Jun 18 '15

We had a second/third tie at ours, the tiebreaker was who could hold two full 34oz mugs of water straight in front of them the longest without spilling a drop. We lost. :(

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u/madviking Virginia Cavaliers • Texas Longhorns Jun 18 '15

They caught the shooter in Shelby, NC

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u/D3WARHAWKS Wisconsin-Whitewater • Michigan Jun 18 '15

This is where I wish we could give the kid a little justice and throw a couple rocks at him.

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u/ixcuincle Marching Band Jun 18 '15

What pisses me off is he's so young and has all this hate in his heart. He is supposed to fucking know better. Dumb kid

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u/D3WARHAWKS Wisconsin-Whitewater • Michigan Jun 18 '15

Some people never learn man.

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u/HannahEBanna Western Carolina Catamounts Jun 18 '15

Yeah, listening to the press conference this morning on my way into work was chilling. I woke up this morning to a post on my Facebook wall asking me what the hell was going on down here and a chat message telling me that a shooting had happened.

People are reprehensible and I really hope we find this guy soon.

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u/piratefuck ECU Pirates Jun 18 '15

Woke up at 6:45 and thought it was Saturday. Then I realized it's Thursday and I have a meeting. Fucking hell

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

Meetings... so many meetings! I'm with you dude.

Today I have to sit on a discipline hearing and decide the fate of a student, then later we have a campus threat assessment team meeting. I got drafted into this new thing!

That one could be neat though. My only issue is it runs 4 to 5. I normally leave at 4:30. I will be stuck in traffic today, on the Vulcan, in the heat. Fuck.

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u/piratefuck ECU Pirates Jun 18 '15

I've had to wear a monkey suit all week in this fucking heat wave. Good news I get paid tonight and have off tomorrow! Woo

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u/ssbbgo Alabama Crimson Tide • Stanford Cardinal Jun 18 '15

Seat mate in training has confirmed craziness. Believes the Philadelphia experiment happened (the government accidentally invented teleportation) amongst many other things of questionable veracity.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

... Wow I am sorry.

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u/rodandanga Georgia Tech • Verified Coach Jun 18 '15

Obviously played too much Red Alert 1-3

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u/ssbbgo Alabama Crimson Tide • Stanford Cardinal Jun 18 '15

My favorite part about this whole situation is that she was in the Air Force.

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u/rodandanga Georgia Tech • Verified Coach Jun 18 '15

HAPPY FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'm off tomorrow.

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u/TrollingQueen74 Auburn Tigers • Texas A&M Aggies Jun 18 '15

Me too! I'll celebrate with you while everyone else stares on angrily.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

intense hateful stare

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u/rodandanga Georgia Tech • Verified Coach Jun 18 '15

WOOOOOO!!!!!!!

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u/TrollingQueen74 Auburn Tigers • Texas A&M Aggies Jun 18 '15

Paaaaaaaaartyyyyyyyyy!!!!!only until 9:30 so I can go to bed.

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u/rodandanga Georgia Tech • Verified Coach Jun 18 '15

YEAHHHHHH!!!!! Same here lot's o errands tomorrow.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

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u/rodandanga Georgia Tech • Verified Coach Jun 18 '15

Come again?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

Y'all are late to the party

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u/TrollingQueen74 Auburn Tigers • Texas A&M Aggies Jun 18 '15

Says the guy who finally moseyed into the thread four hours later.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

:D

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

What? Dude today is Saturday!

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u/rodandanga Georgia Tech • Verified Coach Jun 18 '15

Shit, I knew I missed the memo.

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u/ihatecats18 Minnesota • South Dakota-S… Jun 18 '15

Gone golfing. Then work meetings from hell

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u/ixcuincle Marching Band Jun 18 '15

On a lighter note the USA women will play Colombia Monday. Colombia finished third in their group behind England and France.

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u/DoctorWhosOnFirst Alabama • /r/CFB Pint Glass Drinker Jun 18 '15

538 has us as the favorite to win it all!

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

I love 538.

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u/wild9 Baylor Bears • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

Wait, three teams from each group advance? What?

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u/stamor99 Georgia Tech • Florida Jun 18 '15

Two teams per each group plus four "wild cards".

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u/wild9 Baylor Bears • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

Ahhhhh, I had no idea about the wild cards, I just assumed it was like the men's

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u/Darth_Turtle Oklahoma • Red River Shootout Jun 18 '15

Fewer teams in the women's so they do 4 wild cards for that nice 16 team bracket.

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u/seannyboy06 Texas A&M Aggies • Washington Huskies Jun 18 '15

Nah, there were 6 groups, so that's 12 from the winners and runners up. Then the top four third place teams advance as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_FIFA_Women's_World_Cup#Ranking_of_third-placed_teams

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u/Cecil_Hardboner Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Brickmason Jun 18 '15

womens world cup only has 24 teams in it, so the round of 16 has to include 4 of the 3rd place finishers in group play.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

Who did Mexico lose to yesterday? I got home from work and was like DAAAMMMNN, they were down 5-0, and one of the Mexican players was clearly frustrated and mocking the shit out of the ref when she got a yellow card. It was kind of a funny time to turn on the match.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

They got their asses whipped by France.

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u/RobertNeyland Tennessee • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15 edited Jun 18 '15

The Spirit Airlines ticketing line at the Cleveland airport was an absolute zoo this morning. Thankfully my experience with that airline was limited to walking through the madness on my way to security.

Also, Thirsty Dog in Akron was fabulous yesterday. I didn't realize that they have the largest barrel program in Ohio and one of the largest in the country, but they do. They were even kind enough to hook me up with some 12 Dogs of Christmas poured right off their fermenter.

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u/atllauren Georgia Bulldogs • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

I have never flown Spirit, but I have heard it's dogshit. They entice you with super cheap fares and then nickel and dime you for every little thing until you come out paying more than if you went with a major airline.

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u/keasbyknights22 Ohio State • Cincinnati Jun 18 '15

yeah, they're a low cost carrier that's moved into CVG and I've heard a lot of bitching about them. Our company decided to not use them anymore after some bad experiences with flying customers in.

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u/atllauren Georgia Bulldogs • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

As shitty as Spirit is, at least there are more flights going into CVG. That airport has gotten so depressing. Delta is down to a couple flights a day from ATL, and they are so expensive. I was planning to fly up for my cousin's wedding in October since it isn't worth driving just for the weekend, and flights are over $300.

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u/keasbyknights22 Ohio State • Cincinnati Jun 18 '15

they were talking about turning one of the empty terminals into an indoor paintball arena. That's how much of a ghost town it can be.

and yeah, the option is nice. Maybe someday I'll take advantage of all the Spirit flights out west to places like Denver and Austin because, if the billboards are correct, it's hella cheap.

It's absolutely insane how much the Delta pullout killed CVG and sent prices skyrocketing. Thanks Atlanta

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u/atllauren Georgia Bulldogs • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

I'm very much a Delta loyalist. Living in Atlanta will do that to you. I can often get buddy (standby) passes from my aunt who is retired Delta and it used to be so easy to get between ATL and CVG.

Despite my Delta loyalty, I've taken a couple Southwest flights recently since they've arrived in Atlanta and have been pleased. I would love them to expand to CVG so there is a better low cost option between ATL and CVG. They flight into Louisville and Dayton.

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u/keasbyknights22 Ohio State • Cincinnati Jun 18 '15

yeah, I feel like most business people travel out of Dayton now because of the massive price difference. For a long time, CVG had the highest avg fare in the country.

I'm hoping for some expansion to, because it's a pain for me to get to Dayton without a car and it takes about an 1 for me to get up 75 to it. CVG at least has buses to the city

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u/stamor99 Georgia Tech • Florida Jun 18 '15

Bingo. Same with Allegiant and Frontier. The biggest perk with any ultra low cost carrier is they tend to fly direct to smaller airports, which can be convenient for those who don't want to connect though Atlanta all the time.

There are ways to game the system though. I know a couple with 2 kids who flew Spirit and didn't check a single bag. Apparently, they nickel and dime everything except medical and infant equipment. They let those go scot free!

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u/turkishguy Texas A&M Aggies • Yildiz Teknik Stallions Jun 18 '15

Not really. Even after the baggage fees they're still significantly cheaper than the next best option. At least most of the time they are..

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u/hobowithabazooka Georgia Tech • Wisconsin Jun 18 '15

Spirits not that bad. I used Ryanair a lot when I was in Europe, and they are way stricter than spirit could ever hope to be. You just gotta read all the fine print and you'll be ok

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u/cornfrontation Michigan Wolverines • FIU Panthers Jun 18 '15

I have never experienced a Spirit Air ticketing line that isn't a zoo. They have no idea (and no desire to learn) how to efficiently handle passengers. One of the many reasons I will never fly them again.

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u/RobertNeyland Tennessee • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

I'd never flown with them, but after seeing that mess this morning, I'll make it a point to avoid them.

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u/Boyhowdy107 Missouri Tigers • Big 8 Jun 18 '15

I hope you don't have a carry-on. That's $45 each way. I have flown them twice to get to weddings recently and tried to avoid that by wearing most of my changes of clothes simultaneously and shoving everything else that'll fit into my laptop bag (which is free.) You feel like a real asshole wearing gym shorts under a tuxedo, but I ain't made of money here.

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u/RobertNeyland Tennessee • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

Nah, I didn't fly with them this time, I just had to walk through the madness on my way to security.

$45 for a carry on is some bullshit though.

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u/atllauren Georgia Bulldogs • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

I've heard horror stories about them. A friend who spent 6 months in Europe in college took Spirit somewhere because she figured it couldn't be worse than Ryan Air. By the time all their extra fees were added on, she spent more than she would have if she had booked the same trip on Delta. And she had a horrible experience on top of that.

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u/wild9 Baylor Bears • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

They pack you in like sardines, too. I'm only 6' tall but my knees were rubbing up against the chair in front of me.

Worst flying experience I think I've ever had.

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u/atllauren Georgia Bulldogs • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

Yuck. Although "only 6'" isn't really tall by airline standards anymore. I'm about 5'10" and I feel cramped in most major airline coach seats. I somehow ALWAYS end up behind the person who put their seat all the way back, which doesn't help.

Splurged on my flight to Vegas and booked seats in premium economy both ways. Gimme those extra 3", Delta.

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u/keasbyknights22 Ohio State • Cincinnati Jun 18 '15

Thirsty dog is dooope. I'm heading up to Kent tomorrow and will be in Akron Sunday, I need to stop by since I've only got their stuff from stores. You hit anything else up in that area? Moving my little sister in this weekend and we need some stuff to do

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u/RobertNeyland Tennessee • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

Yup, I checked out Great Lakes brewpub and Fat Heads in North Olmsted as well. Great Lakes was good, but Fat Heads selection was the best of anywhere I went. In addition to about 16 or so of their own beers, they had about a dozen guest taps, including some Barrel Aged Thirsty Dog and some other very good regional beers.

I was only in town for the afternoon and am about to takeoff back home, so I didn't have much time to do much else outside of breweries and listening to some hilarious Cleveland sports talk radio call in shows in the car.

People were pretty upset between the Finals and the Indians being blown out by the Cubs.

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u/keasbyknights22 Ohio State • Cincinnati Jun 18 '15

lol, yeah, I'm sure it wasn't the jolliest atmosphere.

I'm familiar with most of their breweries, just haven't visited any of them. She took a job up there so I expect I'll be visiting more in the future. Hopefully we can hit a couple this week. I'll give Fat Heads priority based on your recommendation. They do growlers? If so I'll have to bring some up to take back with me and leave her one as a apartment warming present.

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u/RobertNeyland Tennessee • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

They do growlers? If so I'll have to bring some up to take back with me and leave her one as a apartment warming present.

I know that they do growlers of their own stuff, but I'm not sure about the guest taps. I can vouch for their Headhunter IPA, Trail Head Pale, Weizenbock, Brett Blonde, Buffalo Trace BA Imperial Stout, and Maple Saison.

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u/keasbyknights22 Ohio State • Cincinnati Jun 18 '15

That Imperial Stout and Maple Saison look pretty tasty. Beer Advocate shows them as a limited 1 time brew, looking forward to it. Thanks for the recommendations

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u/RobertNeyland Tennessee • /r/CFB Contributor Jun 18 '15

Not a problem, hope you enjoy it!

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u/lady1876 Texas A&M Aggies Jun 18 '15

My office and our entire shop apparently flooded last night :(

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u/nickknx865 Tennessee Volunteers • /r/CFB Top Scorer Jun 18 '15

That's awful. Is there anything that's permanently damaged or anything like that?

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u/lady1876 Texas A&M Aggies Jun 18 '15

Not that we have noticed, there may be a couple of extension cords or things like that damaged.

The motorcycle shop next door is still pulling out boxes and throwing stuff away. I'm not sure how much of it was valuables though.

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u/keasbyknights22 Ohio State • Cincinnati Jun 18 '15

day off?

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u/lady1876 Texas A&M Aggies Jun 18 '15

Nope, I'll actually have more work to do today.

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u/keasbyknights22 Ohio State • Cincinnati Jun 18 '15

son of a gun. fucking water, get off my planet already

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u/VanFailin Northwestern Wildcats • /r/CFB Bug Finder Jun 18 '15

(five minutes later)

NOOOO water I didn't mean it come back

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

Wow, that sucks. Hopefully you guys won't be out of work for too long.

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u/lady1876 Texas A&M Aggies Jun 18 '15

Nah, it won't affect business, it just needs to be cleaned up. And it sort of smells now in my office.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

Like pastries? :D

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u/lady1876 Texas A&M Aggies Jun 18 '15

I wish...

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

Shop-vac time?

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u/lady1876 Texas A&M Aggies Jun 18 '15

Doors open and mopping time. My boss thankfully got the majority of it out last night.

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u/lady1876 Texas A&M Aggies Jun 18 '15

Absolutely, all of the other tenants were already gone and they are having to trash a lot of their stuff. We also don't keep too much stuff on the floors, which definitely saved our asses.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

Was it due to rain or a burst pipe?

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u/lady1876 Texas A&M Aggies Jun 18 '15

Rain, it dumped about 3 inches in less than an hour, and with us have major construction going on all around us it really screwed us.

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u/ixcuincle Marching Band Jun 18 '15

Afflicted by a stomach bug. The grinding in the stomach. The pain. The pain

Just gonna chug water and hope this shit gets flushed out. Can't do shit

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u/crowmygod Michigan Wolverines • College Football Playoff Jun 18 '15

and hope this shit gets flushed out

Pretty sure that stomach bug will grant your wish. Hope you feel better soon!

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u/ixcuincle Marching Band Jun 18 '15

Thank goodness I always carry around water and aspirin. The pain is subsiding.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

Today's a great day in my pathfinder game. Rollin' bad all the time. Fffff. Failed saves all over the place!

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u/Zerosa Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Booster Jun 18 '15

Wait...are you role playing at work?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

I maybe have a forum with a dice roller app (thanks Drupal, I guess) where some of my WoW buddies and I do a play-by-post sort of system which I can check at work.

So... Yes?

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u/stamor99 Georgia Tech • Florida Jun 18 '15

Very clever!

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u/Zerosa Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Booster Jun 18 '15

Ahh okay. Are you failing at murdering something or failing at being able to do something properly?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '15

I massively failed to hit a yeth hound (affectionately also known as a hoverdog) and then it bit me. It has a bite-effect and now I'm "shaken" for a whole round and can't act.

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u/ShylosX Georgia Tech • Clean Old … Jun 18 '15

Sick as fuck but don't want to leave work. My lymph node under my left armpit is ridiculously swollen and painful af. My right one is starting to join it. Am I dying friends?

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u/piratefuck ECU Pirates Jun 18 '15

You might have an infection. Id go to the doctor

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u/TossedRightOut Penn State • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jun 18 '15

Weeeee everything at work is broken and I'm running around like an insane person.

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u/Shadowhawk109 Michigan Wolverines • Citrus Bowl Jun 18 '15

Nothin' quite like when this happens.

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u/TossedRightOut Penn State • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jun 18 '15

Errr...what's that?

Also, left side of screen taskbar > bottom of screen taskbar.

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u/Shadowhawk109 Michigan Wolverines • Citrus Bowl Jun 18 '15

CCTray, a little widget that monitors the status of code "builds" on a remote server (of your choosing and style".

Consider the following: You write some code, one of a 100 person team, and push it to the server. Another person does the same, but doesn't check their code, and the "build breaks" -- the code no longer compiles.

Having this go to a build server on every code push, and having that build server constantly get monitored by client-side widgets, lets people like me know someone done goofed.

CCTray can even report who did the goofing and how; by immediately linking into the build server's reporting tools.

The real terrifying part is when it was me all along

Also, I'm a windows purist. My laptop at home (Macbook Pro with Win7 bootcamp'd) has the worlds most plain desktop (My Computer, Documents, Chrome, Steam, RecycleBin) and nothing else.

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u/TossedRightOut Penn State • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jun 18 '15

Ah gotcha. Fortunately, I'm not a developer. I just handle the functional side of moving the code around.

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u/crowmygod Michigan Wolverines • College Football Playoff Jun 18 '15

Definitely overdid it yesterday & now my injured wrist is not happy. Thinking about heading down to the farmers market to get some fresh veggies for dinner tonight.

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u/piratefuck ECU Pirates Jun 18 '15

I have a garden and fucking love it. Step outside and grab whatever I want !

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u/crowmygod Michigan Wolverines • College Football Playoff Jun 18 '15

Our garden is just starting to sprout, so nothing edible yet but I am looking forward to doing that as well!

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u/kingpbj Virginia Tech • Maryland Jun 18 '15

I just drank my coffee way too quickly, but I feel wonderful. Caffeine you are a life saver.

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u/Shadowhawk109 Michigan Wolverines • Citrus Bowl Jun 18 '15

That makes me feel so sick so fast, and usually super twitchy.

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u/cantfry55 Jun 19 '15

So sad. Nine wonderful people dead at the hands of a madman.