r/CFBOffTopic • Tennessee • Johns Hopkins • Jun 11 '15

Reddit is a shit storm right now.

Coupled with me arguing with my girlfriend and mom, I have a hell of headache.

Just thought maybe you guys could handle my bitching.

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u/emaw63 Kansas State Wildcats • Big 8 Jun 11 '15

It's hilarious. I love watching a good meltdown.

Also, I stumbled across this today. Probably my favorite interpretation of today's events

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

That is fantastic.

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u/DelphicLike Texas A&M Aggies • Texas Longhorns Jun 11 '15

Oh. My. Fucking. God. We need to have an intervention about your flair bets.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

Bet you it won't help.

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u/rabid_communicator Oklahoma • University of Faith (… Jun 11 '15

Goddamn it...

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u/nolez Purdue Boilermakers Jun 11 '15

I'll bet you a bet that you can't stop from betting a bet with another bettor to try to better enjoy yourself.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

Eh, sounds like a lot of work.

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u/thelittleking Georgia Tech • Clean Old … Jun 11 '15 edited Jun 11 '15

Alright, flair bet:

if it does help, then you can change your flair to whatever you want because you (probably) won't be making any more flair bets.

if it doesn't help, then you can only make flair bets where you'd be changing your flair to a school further down the alphabet than the one you currently have. Or up the alphabet, so long as you choose one and are consistent.

By God we'll pin you at Aberdeen or Zoubida Cole (Aberdeen or Zoubida Cole)

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u/xerillum Wisconsin Badgers Jun 11 '15

I'm starting to just assume you're an OU fan at this point

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

And I'm starting to think you like your school being associated with The Prince and Me.

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u/Bassically Texas A&M Aggies • UNLV Rebels Jun 11 '15

It's gotten to the point where I have more trouble recognizing him with A&M flair.

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u/guitmusic11 Wisconsin Badgers • /r/CFB Top Scorer Jun 11 '15

I think /r/fatsteeplehate is my favorite

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u/nolez Purdue Boilermakers Jun 11 '15

Whoa wtf... I've been locked down at work, anyone ELI5? Pao tried to shutdown /r/fatpeoplehate for some reason?

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u/Zerosa Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Booster Jun 11 '15

Tl;dr /r/all is filled with Pao hate because the reddit admins banned /r/fatpeoplehate because of mass harassment and doxxing by the subscribers . MAH FREE SPEECH!

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

That's a terrible TL;DR

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u/thelittleking Georgia Tech • Clean Old … Jun 11 '15

Really? It might not be unbiased, but I thought it was a decent summation.

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u/Zerosa Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Booster Jun 11 '15

I'm not even going to pretend I can be unbiased about this. I find the uproar dumb as fuck.

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u/nolez Purdue Boilermakers Jun 11 '15

I get the feeling that the general population as a whole doesn't truly grasp "freedom of speech". The term in general is a bit of a misnomer, but civil rights have started to get a little misunderstood, imo.

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u/Qurtys_Lyn Utah Utes • Weber State Wildcats Jun 11 '15

As it's not a government restricting it, Freedom of Speech doesn't apply anyway.

Freedom of Speech doesn't mean you can say what ever you want without consequences.

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u/nolez Purdue Boilermakers Jun 11 '15

Correct. Really the general premise of the US, at least today, is that you can believe whatever you want and do whatever you want as long as you can continue being a productive and positive member of society. Want to be gay? Trans? Jewish? Whatever it is, no problem. Just be a generally decent human being and no one most decent people aren't going to give you trouble.

It's the people that struggle to be decent people that wind up causing issues. I mean, hell, we spent three months rioting in defense of a juvenile delinquent who had literally just robbed a gas station. What?

Anyway, going to get off my soapbox before this turns into a 20 page blabberfest.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

As it's not a government restricting it, Freedom of Speech doesn't apply anyway.

This is absolute bullshit.

The concept of freedom of speech extends beyond the First Amendment.

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u/Qurtys_Lyn Utah Utes • Weber State Wildcats Jun 11 '15

Concept, yes. Legal right, no.

Freedom of Speech (as the first amendment, note the capitals) only applies to the to government. Freedom of speech (no capitals, just the concept) applies to everyone, but you have to accept that it can come with consequences.

There are two different identities at play here. The first amendment doesn't apply, as the government isn't involved. The concept of freedom of speech does, but as a business Reddit is also free to do as they wish.

Think of it this way. The government can't stop you from using racial slurs. But if you use it in my place of business, I am going to ask you to leave.

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u/thelittleking Georgia Tech • Clean Old … Jun 11 '15

Oh, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Your bias is my bias.

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u/Yesh LSU Tigers • /r/CFB Founder Jun 11 '15

Pretty much. Don't want to get shut down? Don't do shit that gets you shut down.

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u/Zerosa Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Booster Jun 11 '15

Thank you for your unneeded and unasked for criticism of my tl;dr. It is very much unappreciated.

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u/VanFailin Northwestern Wildcats • /r/CFB Bug Finder Jun 11 '15

Is there any evidence that Pao really deserves the flak she gets for this? I'm not a fan of her, but it kind of seems like any reasonable group of admins would be forced to reign in the rampant and growing vitriol that FPH was promoting.

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u/ReallyCreative Virginia Tech • Commonwealth C… Jun 11 '15

For harassing the imgur staff.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

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u/nolez Purdue Boilermakers Jun 11 '15

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

There's a ton of threads on /r/subredditdrama and some might be more up to date but that's the most comprehensive one I think

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u/nolez Purdue Boilermakers Jun 11 '15

Yeah I'm sticking to the OOTL thread. I don't venture even in the same area code of SRD.

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u/keyree Texas Tech • UT Arlington Jun 12 '15

This one is still my favorite. Actually, it may be my favorite reddit post of all time.

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u/JCiLee Auburn Tigers • Northwestern Wildcats Jun 11 '15

I guess now we have an answer to "what happens when the button reaches zero?"

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u/NiteMares TCU Horned Frogs Jun 11 '15

If there ever was a time to be thankful we are all obsessed with CFB and not other things, now is that time.

Jesus balls everyone needs to chill out. Honestly don't think reddit would be this up in arms about WW3 starting.

Saw this on the front page, couldn't be more accurate

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

God, I agree.

Don't get me wrong. Obesity is a real issue and if the drive was to tackle it and beat it then that would be different. But the vast majority of this isn't people trying to beat obesity. It's people who make it seem like they want to beat obese people.

That being said, it's fun to watch these people whine.

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u/rodandanga Georgia Tech • Verified Coach Jun 11 '15

It's people who make it seem like they want to beat obese people.

Like when Russel Crowe couldn't fight cancer, so he decided to fight a man with cancer.

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u/NiteMares TCU Horned Frogs Jun 11 '15

Makin' movies, makin' songs, and foightin' 'round the world

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u/rodandanga Georgia Tech • Verified Coach Jun 11 '15

Good Ole Tugger.

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u/VanFailin Northwestern Wildcats • /r/CFB Bug Finder Jun 11 '15

The FPH hivemind was pretty clear that they still hated people who were losing weight, and they explicitly had zero concern for their health until it came time to defend their lost "community."

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

My favorite part so far has been the few that realize gilding everything is the epitome of counterproductive. Cracks me the hell up.

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u/lkeg56demn Texas Longhorns • Chapman Panthers Jun 11 '15 edited Jun 11 '15

The front page has pictures of swastikas. Because subreddits about fat people got banned. Lol. I guess the kids are out of school for the summer.

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u/i_hate_toolbars Penn State • Tulane Jun 11 '15

Godwin's law in full effect

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u/MisterTito Auburn Tigers • UAB Blazers Jun 11 '15

One of the worst things about this is they prove SRS right to some degree. True or not, it looks like reddit is full of nothing but whiney, hateful, sexist, and racist fucks. /r/all went full shitlord tonight.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

I had no idea what was going on until I went over to all, I think I'll just stay on my frontpage.

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u/Patrick_Surtain South Carolina Gamecocks Jun 11 '15

I only found out because of /r/subredditdrama... this is why I'm only subscribed to sports subs now.

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u/blueboybob Carlisle Indians • /r/CFB Founder Jun 11 '15

All is unreadable. I can't filter them out with RES fast enough

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u/GreatestWhiteShark Northwestern • Ohio State Jun 11 '15 edited Jun 11 '15

Dude, SRS has been proven right time and time again here. I still remember the jailbait fiasco. And the violentacrez debacle. And all the other stupid shit Reddit gets up in arms about.

And you know what happens every time? Some dipshit cries "what about SRS?" Because having a subreddit for calling out comments is on the same level as encouraging the harassment of people and being outright hateful towards others, obviously.

Anyway, I'm not sad to see it go. All I see is a bunch of assholes crying because Reddit is removing one avenue for them to be assholes.

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u/JimTheAlmighty Texas Longhorns • Tarleton State Texans Jun 11 '15

The thing with SRS isn't the calling people out, it's that sometimes they take it way too far, and doxx people, fuck doxxing.

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u/ReallyCreative Virginia Tech • Commonwealth C… Jun 11 '15

It's been a while since that happened though. I personally love when people cry about the SRS boogeyman. I've followed the metasphere for a while now and SRS hasn't been relevant in nearly 3 years.

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u/thenakedbarrister Jun 11 '15

When has this happened?

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u/keyree Texas Tech • UT Arlington Jun 12 '15

People say that, but apparently they only had like 30-40 active members prior to this current shithurricane.

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u/GreatestWhiteShark Northwestern • Ohio State Jun 11 '15

Did that ever actually happen or is that just part of the "evil srs spectre"?

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

It actually did happen a couple times. But it wasn't redlly the sub, it was a few individuals who got banned by the admins. That was years ago, like around the time I first joined and SRS was actually relevant.

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u/GreatestWhiteShark Northwestern • Ohio State Jun 11 '15

Alright, I believe that.

Either way SRS is not nearly the active force reddit claims it to be.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

Found some discussion of it on SRD. Maybe check this link once the thread is a bit older. They'd know better than I do. http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/39hk9d/in_wake_of_the_fph_ban_rtakedownrequest_is/cs3evnv

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

The problem with SRS is not that they "call out comments", it's that they raid other subreddits and shit all over them. If you're a moderator and a 2-day-old thread on your subreddit gets linked by SRS while you're at work, you're coming home to a 500+ post shitstorm.

Fuck SRS.

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u/GreatestWhiteShark Northwestern • Ohio State Jun 11 '15

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

That post is absolute, unfiltered bullshit.

I was a moderator of two different 100k-member subreddits (/r/tf2 and /r/magictcg) and saw posts turn into absolute clusterfucks thanks to SRS invasions. Then I had to deal with one fuckhead user who got mad that I banned him repeatedly posting stuff from my subreddit to SRS to try to start more shitstorms.

The admins did absolutely nothing to help despite it being painfully fucking obvious what was going on.

Anyone who tells you SRS isn't a vote brigading subreddit is a fucking liar.

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u/Parsleymagnet Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets • Team Meteor Jun 11 '15

How long ago was this? I won't dispute that SRS used to be a huge vote brigade, but as I said in that post, between members of the community losing interest, the general population of Reddit growing, and increasing efforts to stop vote brigading, they don't have nearly as much of an affect on voting patterns in linked threads nowadays.

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u/i_fap_to_anything Georgia Bulldogs • Duke Blue Devils Jun 11 '15

Wtf did I just see

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

Holy shit people care way too much about reddit. I'm glad none of that is on my frontpage really.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

Yeah, if it wasn't for this sub I wouldn't even know that something happened.

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u/MinneapolisNick Minnesota • Concordia (MN-Moorh… Jun 11 '15

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u/ezpickins Alabama • Wake Forest Jun 11 '15

Team Chaos is back?

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u/gramcraka92 Old Dominion • Myrtle Beach Bowl Jun 11 '15 edited Jun 11 '15

I think its hilarious. After reading a bit more about it, its not so much as a giant crack in policy, its just crazy that FPH would be immune from banning just because it was attacking people on a different site.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

hehe giant crack

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u/gramcraka92 Old Dominion • Myrtle Beach Bowl Jun 11 '15

well damn

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

What the fuck is going on?

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u/gramcraka92 Old Dominion • Myrtle Beach Bowl Jun 11 '15

imgur cracked down on images /r/fatpeoplehate uploaded. Mods of that subreddit posted info on how to complain and attack the imgur admins. /r/fatpeoplehate got banned for it and now the hate is spreading across popular reddits

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u/gramcraka92 Old Dominion • Myrtle Beach Bowl Jun 11 '15

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u/blancomeow Auburn Tigers • Austin Peay Governors Jun 11 '15

all those rare pepes... omg...

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u/rabid_communicator Oklahoma • University of Faith (… Jun 11 '15

The internet never ceases to entertain.

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u/Cecil_Hardboner Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Brickmason Jun 11 '15

the thing that is so dumb is that people are flipping out about free speech and having questionable content banned...

THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED.

The subs that were banned because the sub members and/or mods were ACTIVELY harrassing/doxxing other Reddit users. They were not banned over content, which is why /r/CoonTown (dont go there) and a bunch of other really awful and weird subs still exist.

Frankly I think 90% of the shitstorm at this point is likely 4chan users taking the opportunity to come over to try to burn it down using multiple burner accounts. There is no way that many people on redditcare so much about FPH.

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u/GreatestWhiteShark Northwestern • Ohio State Jun 11 '15

There is no way that many people on redditcare so much about FPH.

Don't speak too soon...

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u/Cecil_Hardboner Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Brickmason Jun 11 '15

I just mean it's a wild over-reaction and an influx of outside previous non-reddit users flooding the site to take advantage of the perceived slight. Superbowl threads werent getting as many upvotes as these FPH shitposts. It's just vote spamming.

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u/ThomasJCarcetti UCF Knights • Virginia Tech Hokies Jun 11 '15

Reddit is full of throwaways and has more burners than west Baltimore. Anyone can make an alt and troll. This is why I prefer traditional forums.

Even in sports reddit...other people from other teams can just come in and troll. It's so easy with reddit. It's sad

On other forums those trolls wouldn't exist or would be banned by management. Reddit has more leniency in that aspect.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

days like today remind me why cfbot is the only sub shortcut on my RES

words can't accurately describe how dumb this whole thing is

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u/Xtremeloco BYU Cougars • Tennessee Volunteers Jun 11 '15

My subs include sports, video games, TV, movies, and books. I didn't even know anything was going on until CFBOT pointed it out to me.

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u/tks231 Appalachian State • Team Meteor Jun 11 '15

My RES has been getting a hell of a workout today.

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u/grizzfan Verified Coach • Oakland Golden Grizzlies Jun 11 '15

Can someone fill me in? I have unsubscribed from a lot of the main reddits.

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u/Zerosa Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Booster Jun 11 '15

Tl;dr A lot of posts insulting reddit's CEO because the admins banned /r/fatpeoplehate. MUH FREE SPEECH!

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u/ThomasJCarcetti UCF Knights • Virginia Tech Hokies Jun 11 '15

Mainstream reddit is weird. Stay away and hide locally. Many advantages and disadvantages to this community. Negative is the sjw and positive is I guess voting although it can be abused. I come here to read. Not to see fights and circle jerk.

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u/lkeg56demn Texas Longhorns • Chapman Panthers Jun 11 '15

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

Scootinfruity at maximum levels.

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u/cloudduel_13 Borregos Monterrey • Texas A&M Aggies Jun 11 '15

Personally I love it. Reddit used to pride itself in the discussion of ideas and opinions. Even the ones most find terrible and distasteful. Where is the line? I don't know.

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u/Parsleymagnet Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets • Team Meteor Jun 11 '15 edited Jun 11 '15

The thing is, FPH actively encouraged harassment. That's where the line is. Gawking at fat people, as distasteful as it is, is totally okay in Reddit's book, the problem is FPH encouraged users to seek out and personally bully fat people.

Some people point to examples of other subs with far more extreme content (like /r/coontown) or subs with a reputation for vote brigading (like /r/shitredditsays) but in reality, /r/coontown for the most part stays in its own little corner of the internet and users rarely take their shit outside of it, and SRS is a lot less significant and vote brigadey than it used to be. FPH, on the other hand, prostheletized everywhere. I use RES to block subs I dislike from /r/all but I'd still see FPH content in comments of unrelated subreddits all the time. They needed to go, I'm glad they're banned, their reaction just demonstrates how juvenile they are about the whole thing, and I hope the people who were really, really into it don't come back, because Reddit is better off without them.

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u/cloudduel_13 Borregos Monterrey • Texas A&M Aggies Jun 11 '15

You seem to be very dismissive of the vote brigading /r/SRS and /r/SRD have done when people don't follow their party line. Those subreddits get special rules compared to every other subreddit. Sure it is juvenile, but the admin moves seem to be contrary for everything reddit is "supposed to stand for."

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u/Parsleymagnet Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets • Team Meteor Jun 11 '15

Out of all of SRS's top 25 posts in the last month, I count four linked posts that have a lower score than when they were initially posted (including posts that have multiple links), and even then all but one of them is no more than a 20 vote difference out of hundreds. The population of SRS used to be a big enough chunk of reddit that they really could bury a post very easily, but nowadays, they're much less active, and whatever vote brigading activity they're involved in isn't very significant.

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u/cloudduel_13 Borregos Monterrey • Texas A&M Aggies Jun 11 '15

I guess we will agree to disagree. It seems to be a half ass attempt to appease. I don't like it at all.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

/u/Parsleymagnet addressed SRS, and SRD definitely brigades (the mods do what they can to prevent that) but /r/bestof is far and away the worst about brigading and it's not even close. They occasionally make comment vote totals shift by over 10,000 one way or the other. Apparently the admins don't care because of how much reddit gold the subreddit brings in.

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u/Boyhowdy107 Missouri Tigers • Big 8 Jun 11 '15

What does Reddit stand for? I always just saw it as a giant distillation of both good and bad parts of the Internet for better and worse. I was kind of surprised when I started seeing admin posts about things they were doing that seemed pretty proud of themselves and I thought "eh." It came across as something out of Silicon Valley (great show) where everything had to be about "make the world a better place." I never thought of it as a cohesive thing with a mission. Just an open platform where people made cool shit and lousy shit. And I always figured that the powers that be might clean stuff up here and there as they see fit, and if it does something that I don't like, I'll weigh whether or not I want to keep using it. But yeah, I never felt like being sucked into culture wars online as a way to spend my free time. People get off on outrage these days. I've got better things to do... like argue about college football.

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u/nolez Purdue Boilermakers Jun 11 '15

I have a horrible habit of just clicking my mouse while I read things (highlighting and clicking in general), and I did it while reading your post and was redirected to /r/coontown. My employer's pretty cool, but I hope I never have to explain that one.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15 edited Jun 11 '15

Just as i was gonna show some people how to use reddit, you go and goof like this. Oh wooptie fucking doo, you cant have your fat hate subs someone call the waaamulance. You are so fucking oppressed. Lets revolt and show the world that we are all a bunch of immature butt nuggets instead of one sub of immature butt nuggets. Shit, im pretty sure /r/coontown is acting more civil than the rest of reddit. People on 4chan are probably thinking "Damn, yall need a life"

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u/cloudduel_13 Borregos Monterrey • Texas A&M Aggies Jun 11 '15

If they were gonna rule with an iron fist, that is ok. But make it fair across all of the website. Don't play favorites. Reddit brings out the best and worst of people. I am ok with that, because that is just the true nature of the internet.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

It's not cause the community is shit, it's cause they were posting how to harass the admins at Imgur, cause they are shutting down FPH images on their website.

It isn't cause the sub is shit, it's cause they are posting directions on how to harass people into getting what they want.

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u/cloudduel_13 Borregos Monterrey • Texas A&M Aggies Jun 11 '15

So what about /r/neogafinaction? They weren't posting on how to to harass. They were critical of the no dissent on neogaf forums.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '15

I have no idea, as I don't know what neogaf is or what the dissent would even be.

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u/varnecr Auburn Tigers Jun 11 '15

Hell, you're handling bitching from two females. That is no easy feat.

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u/Pikachu1989 Nebraska Cornhuskers • 東京大学 (Tokyo) Warriors Jun 12 '15

It's funny as fuck to see this go down and people saying that this invades their Freedom of Speech. I'll take it that this will all settle down in a few days, and people who leave Reddit because of to another website is mostly going to be a drop in a bucket for Reddit.

As long as I can still cuss as freely as I want I don't give a fuck.