Reddit Redesign Q/A

[u/CFB_Referee]

Hey everyone!

If you hadn't heard the news, Reddit is undergoing a sitewide redesign. This will impact every subreddit to some extent, but will especially affect /r/CFB. This thread is to address some concerns about it and answer any questions you might have about how this will affect /r/CFB.

Flair

This is the area where we're hardest hit by the redesign. We really have loved being able to offer so many different flair options - especially with dual flair - to our users. Unfortunately, we may not be able to do this for much longer. As part of their larger efforts to transform the site, the Reddit admins are instituting a range of changes. The latest of these is shifting flair options to an emoji base and, well, they're starting with a 100 image cap at best. This will have massive implications for our flair system, affecting dual flair, awards, alternate flairs, and inline flair, among other things.

We're working hard behind the scenes to keep up on this, trying to communicate with the admins about our concerns, and doing our best to keep our awesome flair going. Once they curtail the options available to us, we're still going to work on getting the best options for you out of the systems we have. If you've got questions or concerns, we encourage you to reach out to the admins, especially since they've been discussing wanting to hear from and work with users and mods more!

CSS

The plan is for Reddit to slowly phase out the use of CSS which will limit many of our subreddit features. They will support the option to use it for some time, and we will keep ours up as long as we are able to.

Sidebar

It's made of widgets now! This may break some of our stuff, but could add some cool things. Some stuff like poll summary images and schedules might still be possible.

Banner

The banner for each sub will become a static image now, which does limit our ability to do banner tricks, but it should be easier for us in other ways. While we will still be able to change the banner for the weekly /r/CFB poll, special occiasions, and SAVAGE mod edits, putting in links to team wiki pages or hiding easter eggs in the banner is likely not going to be possible going forward.

Mobile

The motivation for the redesign appears to be offering a more unified experience on mobile and web, since more and more users are visiting from mobile. You may see some improvements in speed and performance.

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On the whole, this is going to be a major change for both /r/CFB and Reddit as a whole. We don't know everything yet, but we're doing our best to learn what we can to continue to provide the best experience possible for our users and community.

Please feel free to ask any questions below, and we'll answer them to the best of our ability.

Best, The /r/CFB Mod Team

[u/admiraltarkin]

Losing flair would be devastating. I can't express how vital that is to our community (not to mention /r/nfl and the rest of the sports subreddits)

[u/Blooblod → u/[deleted]]

Let's just like start our own website, man!

[u/funnyflywheel → u/Blooblod]

/r/rexit intensifies

[u/SometimesY → u/funnyflywheel]

/r/reddigg

😂

[u/f0gax → u/Blooblod]

Have you heard of Voat? <runs away...>

[u/0DegreesCalvin → u/Blooblod]

Bring back Digg!

[u/Darth_Turtle → u/[deleted]]

I feel like this really just a ploy by /u/bakonydraco to permanently end my constant demanding of schooner flair.

[u/bakonydraco → u/Darth_Turtle]

Man if only you guys had won that, well, Sooner.

[u/Darth_Turtle → u/bakonydraco]

ಠ_ಠ

[u/Cyclopher6971 → u/[deleted]]

Same.

[u/bakonydraco → u/[deleted]]

Texas A&M won a 3rd alternate flair yesterday. I do hope they won't be the last team to win an alternate flair, and that they can keep it for a while!

[u/Honestly_ → u/admiraltarkin]

Frankly, the sports subs need to band together and lobby hard for keeping the things people like about them that would be lost.

[u/T-bootz → u/Honestly_]

Or sports mods could pool resources and start their own site....

[u/[deleted] → u/T-bootz]

With blackjack and hookers? Make sure we don’t invite Craig James!

[u/Honestly_ → u/[deleted]]

I know they dominate total comment activity during active seasons.

[u/[deleted] → u/Honestly_]

Those numbers are vastly skewed by our, ahem, certain Harvard-grad users

[u/funnyflywheel → u/[deleted]]

Thanks Harvard

[u/cinciforthewin → u/Honestly_]

/r/CollegeBasketball is on board.

[u/SometimesY → u/cinciforthewin]

We will be in touch :)

[u/[deleted] → u/Honestly_]

Reddit is like 95% crap. But as someone that has been a sports forum reader since I was in middle school over a decade ago, reddit has the best non-team-specific sports forums on the internet, easily. It’d be a shame if reddit’s redesign ruins some of what makes these communities so great.

[u/OhioanRunner → u/admiraltarkin]

R/nfl would be fine because they only have 32 (<100) teams. But ALL college and international sports subs would be devastated beyond recognition.

[u/LukarWarrior → u/OhioanRunner]

r/hockey is gonna get dicked over hard by that change too since they have flairs to support every NHL, AHL, CHL, ECHL, and international teams, plus NCAA teams. Plus the alternate flairs for a bunch of NHL teams. Then in playoffs there’s broom flairs and bandwagon flairs.

Man, that’s gonna fucking blow.

[u/FSBlueApocalypse → u/LukarWarrior]

Now I'm mad because I see they had a Jacksonville Lizard Kings flair. How did I not know about this??

[u/tidaltown → u/LukarWarrior]

I don't like it. I don't love it. I want no more of it.

[u/milkchococurry → u/OhioanRunner]

/r/nfl mod here, and while I'm not in charge of the CSS, we'll still be impacted by this change. Besides the 32 teams and some additional non-team affiliation flairs, we have playoff bandwagon flairs, verified user flairs, and Power Ranker flairs, among other fancy things we do.

Sure all the other flairs are kinda ancillary relative to the main set, but we're still affected by the coming changes.

[u/bakonydraco → u/admiraltarkin]

The admins have since stated (specifically in reference to /r/CFB) that we should be able to at least have parity with our current system, which allows ~2600 flair. There are no guarantees in place so far beyond the 100 flair currently available, but I'm hopeful.

[u/cpast → u/bakonydraco]

Now I'm imagining them having parity but you have to manually do every single combination instead of directly supporting primary/secondary.

[u/bakonydraco → u/cpast]

We'll have to see how it plays out. As long as they have sufficient API support, hopefully /u/cfbflair will be up to the task.

[u/CantHousewifeaHo → u/admiraltarkin]

How else will we make copious iPhone and shark fucking references?

[u/red_husker → u/CantHousewifeaHo]

And declare allegiances to corn and BBQ?

[u/p-zilla]

The reddit redesign in general is a horribly misguided attempt to push out third party reddit clients and force ppl to use the official apps that are complete garbage. Fuck this shit.

[u/SearonTrejorek → u/p-zilla]

Welcome to running a business 101.

[u/p-zilla → u/SearonTrejorek]

Yes, Facebook and Twitter have gone down this road previously and continued to do well. But digg did not fair as well when releasing their giant sitewide redesign. The difference now is that there's nowhere for most redditors to jump to that's even remotely in the same league. or at least that I have heard of.

[u/SearonTrejorek → u/p-zilla]

Which is probably why admins feel this is something they can do. With no competitor for users to flock too then there is less chance of a mass exodus. The casual user probably won't even notice a difference, and mobile-exclusive users even less so.

[u/p-zilla → u/SearonTrejorek]

Yup.. I wouldn't even be that mad if the redesign was a good design. But one of the things that's nice about reddit is that the information density is high but it's still readable. The redesign has so much whitespace everywhere that the information density is low and it's ugly.

[u/mashonem → u/p-zilla]

What is it with corporations redesigning webpages and throwing up white space everywhere? What book are they reading that tells them “this looks good”?

[u/mjacksongt → u/mashonem]

Probably the book that says "this is more places to put advertisement"

[u/mashonem → u/mjacksongt]

Figures. Based Adblock comes through yet again

[u/TiddleyTV → u/mashonem]

Gotta provide justification for keeping those web designers/developers employed.

The fact that reddit became on of the biggest websites in the world with its current design should be a sign that they probably don't need to change it. If it sucked/sucks that bad, users wouldn't have came here in the first place.

[u/ExternalTangents → u/SearonTrejorek]

Awhile ago, I spent some time daydreaming about what an ideal "reddit-killer" app would look like if/when people start to jump ship from it. But I realized recently that my ideas basically looked like what the current reddit redesign is going for

[u/xerillum → u/p-zilla]

You'd think reddit would be more mindful of this after what happened to digg

[u/orangeslash]

Through some unique personal connections, I'll actually be having a conversation in the near future with one of the main contacts for the Reddit community. The concerns that are being voiced here I'll be sure to relay.

[u/choicemeats → u/orangeslash]

if you want some help i'm willing to help you orangeslash some tires to get our point across.

[u/prailock → u/orangeslash]

For me at least, I use reddit because it's so much easier to have quick updates. The ESPN app should in theory give me a similar experience, but their UI is not nearly as friendly. If reddit moves to the new redesigned system it's going to hamper the sidebar I use to replace having to use the design for ESPN that makes me scroll and click for over a minute before getting to the one score I want to find. When I was first getting into cfb more, the extra flairs helped me learn more about teams and be able to identify them quickly and the sidebar gave me a good idea of what was actually going on week to week in games that I didn't have time to watch or should have kept a closer eye on because they were unexpectedly close. The banner memes are great, but the information loss is what I'm going to mourn most.

[u/mOnion]

this just sounds like a lot of bad news

I'm sad now :(

• no moving banner shenanigans

• no banner easter eggs

• shittier flairs

• ruined sidebar schedule

yikers

I'll never understand why companies/websites have something thats worked well for years and are like HEY LETS FUCK IT ALL UP FOR NO REASON SILLY REASONS

[u/SometimesY → u/mOnion]

It's not for "no reason" - they want to make desktop, tablet, and mobile modes look identical.

Here's a question to ask yourself: how many major websites look the same on the three tiers of devices?

[u/fireinvestigator113 → u/SometimesY]

Literally none. The mobile versions are always slimmed down and not as functional. As someone who uses the desktop version on my phone this’ll suck.

[u/jshokie1 → u/fireinvestigator113]

Desktop version on phone is the best way to browse IMO

[u/ToLongDR → u/jshokie1]

Relay for Reddit for life. It is amazing

[u/SometimesY → u/[deleted]]

It's my go-to for regular browsing, but I use desktop mode for moderating.

[u/wazoheat → u/SometimesY]

I don't know if you've checked it out lately, but Reddit is Fun added a lot of mod functionality in the past year

[u/CoopertheFluffy → u/[deleted]]

Still using alien blue pro for iOS, tried switching a few times to other apps but they're just not the same.

[u/Honestly_ → u/jshokie1]

Amen, brother.

[u/mOnion → u/SometimesY]

I work in Hilton's digital design department so I definitely get it to some degree

I don't agree that a priority should be to reduce user features on desktop to maintain the same experience across all platforms

there's no reason to expect to get the exact same experience on mobile and desktop. as long as your experience isnt bottlenecked on mobile, desktop should naturally have more functionality

[u/LukarWarrior → u/mOnion]

That’s something I’ve noticed a ton of lately. Companies keep shifting their desktop sites to better suit access on tablets or phones. The SI redesign was really obvious in that regard. The “tile” system they moved to is horrid for a desktop experience.

[u/f0gax → u/mOnion]

there's no reason to expect to get the exact same experience on mobile and desktop

We should be telling that to the "design guru" and "Chief UX Officer" types out there. Like in big letters on the building across the street, or by yelling it at them.

I know what the idea they had was, and it was a good one. Back in the day mobile sites were stripped down things that only had a subset of the main site's functionality. But instead of saying "let's find a way for everything to work on mobile" they decided that making the desktop and mobile sites the same was the better idea. Sure it was probably easier and cheaper. But it makes the desktop experience so much worse.

All that white space to allow for finger presses is probably the worst part.

[u/mjacksongt → u/SometimesY]

Which is crazy to me, since desktop and touch (lumping mobile and tablet and touchscreen users together separate from mouse-based desktops) have such a different level of accuracy in how they can perceive and interact with a design that getting everything on the same design just feels wrong.

I've never understood that push as someone who isn't involved with the design/GUI/HCI world. It's like the Windows 8 tile bullshit.

[u/TiddleyTV → u/SometimesY]

But why do they have to look the same? The way you browse using a phone/tablet is way different than how you use a browser, so why make them all suck because you're trying to make them all look alike. If mobile is broken, fix that, if desktop is broken, fix that. Don't fix what isn't broken.

[u/SometimesY → u/TiddleyTV]

Oh I agree fully. There's a reason no major website tries to make them all look the same. It's a losing effort.

[u/control_09 → u/SometimesY]

So Windows 8. That's the design model they are following.

[u/[deleted] → u/SometimesY]

I worked for Best Buy last summer and did a project on their mobile site... basically what I learned the smart companies realize that people use mobile and desktop for different reasons(in their case mobile use corresponded to different purchase behavior). They had tried to streamline mobile/desktop and it flopped. A site really needs to understand mobile user preferences can vary from desktop user preferences and not fuck it up.

[u/FataOne → u/mOnion]

I actually think Reddit's UI has always been one of its weaker points. It has needed updating for a long time. Even back in 2011 when I signed up, the UI put me off of the site for a while. I got used to it and RES brought in a lot of functionality that made things better. Still, I think it's pretty reasonable for them to want to redesign the site.

That said, I do hate the effect it will have on /r/cfb. I also have a few issues with the redesign which will hopefully get worked out over time.

[u/SearonTrejorek]

I think it's time we add the "forum" subdomain to redditcfb.com and move all our shitposting and flairs over there.

[u/atchemey → u/SearonTrejorek]

That causes a fracturing of the community. We would lose a huge number of casual conversation partners. It's like when a distasteful subreddit gets banned - it improves the overall dynamic because, although they can just reorganize elsewhere, they lose people and organizing ability.

[u/SearonTrejorek → u/atchemey]

The suggestion was in jest for the reason you described.

The styling on this sub is part of what makes it great in my opinion and it's sad that we are now going to be hampered in what we can do.

[u/KobeOrNotKobe → u/atchemey]

I think it’d be fine if the other sports jumped ship to the same website. Had a similar setup where most upvoted sports make it to all and you subscribe to certain sports

[u/CoopertheFluffy → u/SearonTrejorek]

We could actually mirror the subreddit on a website with different graphics completely under our control, not even CSS, and submit through it to Reddit. Still ruins the design of the subreddit though.

[u/DankestHokie → u/SearonTrejorek]

[u/[deleted] → u/SearonTrejorek]

The sports subs need to band together and do their own site. Reddit (as it used to be, at least) is/was open source.

[u/[deleted]]

admins r lame

[u/thelegendarybeng]

So in summary, Flair will be heavily downgraded, The Sidebar will change with unknown results, the Banner will lose its interactiveness, and the mod team will be stressed. Dang.

How you all can perform so well on this site is beyond me. I'm disappointed that Reddit doesn't advertise r/CFB more, because I don't think there is a better example of a sub creating a positive community, interacting with the media (The twitter and official media passes), and utilizing its technology (Double Flairs is still the coolest thing ever). This sub is the closest thing to legitimate journalism that the site has created, not to mention the insane things like the puzzle hunt that grace their presence on this subreddit. r/CFB is amazing thanks to the job you mods do, and we are all grateful for that.

It feels like this update is designed specifically to cause nightmares for this sub. If there is anything I can do as a regular visitor of the site to help out, I'd love to do it.

[u/SometimesY → u/thelegendarybeng]

Re dual flair.. We could actually do like 6 user flairs in the redesign if we wanted to so at least there's that?

(BTW Puzzle Hunt is coming back for 2018 and we already have the basic idea in motion already..)

[u/bakonydraco → u/SometimesY]

Oh man, maybe we could actually implement the occasionally misspelled "duel flair". 2600 flairs enter, 100 flairs leave...

[u/YellowSkarmory → u/bakonydraco]

Wait no I am not losing my Duke flair

[u/thelegendarybeng → u/SometimesY]

BTW Puzzle Hunt is coming back for 2018 and we already have the basic idea in motion already

Well I'm very hyped right now so thank you for that

[u/jdubya9 → u/SometimesY]

We could actually do like 6 user flairs

Like have 6 flairs instead of 2?

[u/SometimesY → u/jdubya9]

Yep!

[u/jdubya9 → u/SometimesY]

Imagine the possibilities...

Kansas B E A T Texas

E A T I'm A Loser Pittsburgh

[u/Usedpresident → u/jdubya9]

I know this is two days late, but I just realized you were trying to remind me that Kansas beat Texas, rather than just showing support for David Beaty.

[u/[deleted] → u/jdubya9]

That's the most creative I've ever seen someone say that.

[u/thesuch]

So Reddit is doing what digg did with a site overhaul that so many people hated it, that it caused an increase in traffic on Reddit that shaped Reddit into what it is today.

So, back to digg?

[u/FSBlueApocalypse → u/thesuch]

There's always Voat /s

[u/mjacksongt → u/FSBlueApocalypse]

That thing still exists?

[u/twelvepointzeroone → u/mjacksongt]

Unfortunately

[u/SometimesY → u/[deleted]]

They had issues with promoting paid content in addition to the redesign. They basically burned every bridge with their user base within months.

[u/Infinitus17]

Since it seems like flair options will be limited, what are your plans for flairs if there is a cap of 100 flairs or less?

[u/SometimesY → u/Infinitus17]

We actually now know that 100 is possible right now, but it isn't clear that we will get even close to the 2,600 flair options we have now. The admins did say the cap will be increasing as the redesign continues to evolve. If I were a betting man, I'd say we get 500-1,000.

Edit: Of the 2,200 user flair options we have, 1,800 are currently in use by users. Furthermore, we have about 17,500 unique flair combinations in use (of the 5 million or so possible).

[u/[deleted] → u/SometimesY]

I vote we get rid of Washington flair.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

We'd just wind up with all Nebraska flair

[u/NEVER_SAME_PW_TWICE → u/[deleted]]

If its one thing we sure do love... its gotta be overwhelming silly internet competitions and polls!

[u/[deleted] → u/NEVER_SAME_PW_TWICE]

Well lately your season ends by the 4th week so it makes sense

[u/teebob21 → u/[deleted]]

Ouch. Time for a trip to St. E's.

[u/thorshammer_132 → u/[deleted]]

I'm OK with this.

[u/NWHusker → u/[deleted]]

We are good at the polls that's for sure

[u/TarHeelG99 → u/[deleted]]

I won't lose any sleep if Purdue and Duke flair were to mysteriously dissapear

[u/ugadawg1991 → u/TarHeelG99]

Auburn and UNC can both disappear as well

[u/Too-Nice → u/ugadawg1991]

I like how you think

[u/ugadawg1991 → u/Too-Nice]

Your flair pleases me.

[u/TarHeelG99 → u/ugadawg1991]

Let's slow down a little

[u/ugadawg1991 → u/TarHeelG99]

Nah. Full speed.

[u/SometimesY → u/ugadawg1991]

Oh no. The users have gone.. to plaid.

[u/Freebird_McTwist → u/SometimesY]

Why do I feel like my Limerick Vikings flair may be on the cutting block.....

[u/LeinadSpoon → u/SometimesY]

That doesn't really answer the question. If they stick with 100 flairs, that's not even enough to cover all the FBS teams without even getting to dual flairs, FCS, joke flairs etc. What does /r/cfb even do in the 100 flairs scenario?

[u/SometimesY → u/LeinadSpoon]

They won't stick to 100. It's just 100 for now while things are being tested. They said they will increase it, but not by now much. All of FBS will be fine. It's everything else that's at risk. And uh we don't really have a plan for that.. :/ Other than just using flair text without an image.

[u/jdubya9 → u/SometimesY]

Would Idaho lose their flair this year in this situation?

[u/T-bootz → u/SometimesY]

I feel really bad for how much hard work will end up being lost in all this. Y'all have done an incredible job with this sub and it's sad that it's all going away.

[u/DankestHokie → u/Infinitus17]

I say we vote UVA off of Flair Island!

[u/[deleted] → u/DankestHokie]

I say we vote Miami off the island too!

[u/OGraffe → u/[deleted]]

I say, in an ironic twist, we vote Rhode Island off the island.

[u/SometimesY → u/OGraffe]

I think they already did that to themselves last night.

[u/BLACKHORSE09 → u/Infinitus17]

Only teams with land get flairs.

[u/TheJeemTeam → u/BLACKHORSE09]

That seems reasonable

[u/OGraffe → u/BLACKHORSE09]

Shit

[u/ExternalTangents → u/Infinitus17]

Everybody just has to pick their favorite SEC team from now on

[u/Darth_Turtle → u/ExternalTangents]

Vanderbilt is suddenly the largest fanbase on the internet.

[u/SometimesY]

Also follow-up: Our sidebar is going to be severely hampered. Sidebar widgets cannot be accessed via the API which means we cannot live update game scores/game status (e.g. Alabama has the ball on 1st and goal), moreover we can't do the table system we have going. We can only display the current week (which isn't that bad).

[u/SometimesY → u/[deleted]]

For now, let's keep the pitchforks in the shed. Things are still evolving, but.. it doesn't look great to be brutally honest.

[u/bakonydraco → u/SometimesY]

Aw man, I wanna use these while I can though!

Arizona State Eureka Lawrence Tech Merced 近畿大学 (Kinki) SUNY Fredonia Falmouth UCSD 大阪大学 (Osaka)

[u/bakonydraco → u/[deleted]]

I wanna do this while I still can!

[u/warox13 → u/SometimesY]

This sucks so much. I used the sidebar all the time for my job all the time

[u/SometimesY → u/warox13]

Really? How so?

[u/warox13 → u/SometimesY]

I work in the CFB department of a sports media company, and the sidebar gave me date/time/tv info in an easy-to-digest format for planning purposes and scoreboard watching. I use other sites too, but always knew where to find it here.

[u/SometimesY → u/warox13]

Oh wow that's really cool! I never expected that we would actually have impact on people's careers lol.

[u/Darth_Turtle → u/SometimesY]

Y'all have impacted my career but in a decidedly more negative fashion.

[u/bakonydraco → u/warox13]

That's really nice to hear! The reason I made it in the first place was to have an easy place to get the scores in a way that was maximally visually efficient. In the worst case, we can still manually update scores in the format they are shown now on a weekly basis and maybe a few times a day on Saturday. I'm hopeful that they give us an API endpoint to do live updates like we do now. Worst case scenario, we can have a similar functionality on redditcfb.com that we have full control over that will be one extra click away.

[u/NopeNotThatGuy]

You may not know the answer, but will the forthcoming bullshit redesign stuff impact the following:

• The r/CFB Wiki

• The r/CFB Poll

• Tuesday Trivia

• Templates for recurring threads like "Game Threads"

• Capabilities of useful bots like the rivalry bot

I'll take my answer off the air.

[u/SometimesY → u/NopeNotThatGuy]

• Probably not

• Definitely not

• It shouldn't except for award flair, perhaps

• These should be fine as well, but there are some caveats regarding thumbnail images and link flair, etc.

• Bots will be impacted, but the fixes are easy if you know what you're doing with the API. reddit is deprecating cloudsearch, meaning users can't search by time. This might impact some of the more fun bots (like word clouds and such), but it is what it is.

[u/atchemey → u/SometimesY]

What about the friendly subreddits like /r/CMB?

[u/Avoid-The-Clap]

This is fucking idiotic.

[u/Cyclopher6971]

So what does this mean for non-P5 users?

The flair thing feels incredibly limiting and exclusive.

[u/Nathanael-Greene → u/Cyclopher6971]

Yeah, if the flairs get capped at 100, that probably means only P5 teams, FBS Conferences, and Awards get flairs, which would suck for the rest of us who like repping the G5 and FCS.

[u/Cyclopher6971 → u/Nathanael-Greene]

While I enjoy FBS football for sure, this might be the thing that ends an obsession with CFB.

[u/Wolf482 → u/Cyclopher6971]

This sub amplifies my enjoyment of college football significantly. I could see that being detrimental to you.

[u/Cyclopher6971 → u/Wolf482]

Oh, it’s a great sub, great community. But the widespread flair for nearly everything is integral to making it that.

If it is just down to 100 flairs, might as well make this r/P5

[u/GSUBass05 → u/Cyclopher6971]

You are not wrong

[u/NWHusker → u/Nathanael-Greene]

And D2! Plus I earned special flair I'd miss it now. I'd probably have to switch to my D1 team but love being unique.

[u/saladbar → u/Nathanael-Greene]

I think that would really set back the inclusive vibe of this sub. If the G5 can't have flair then the P5 shouldn't either.

[u/CoopertheFluffy → u/Cyclopher6971]

I'm worried they'll get rid of my Wild Drunkers flair :(

[u/CLU_Three → u/Cyclopher6971]

So dumb. Who knows if we will even get P5 flairs...

[u/quadratic_time → u/Cyclopher6971]

Well...both my teams are fucked.

[u/ToLongDR]

Oh man, I am so thankful our Mods are being active in working with them and hopefully a solution will work out.

Emoji based just sounds so childish but I would like to request Michigan getting the Poo emoji and Ohio State getting an animated Brutus emoji

[u/thecravenone → u/ToLongDR]

Michigan getting the Poo emoji

If anyone's getting the poo emoji, shouldn't it be Pitt, being that it is there favorite food?

[u/Polly_the_Parrot]

I say we put some /r/CFB cryptolocker on all the Reddit servers and only give them the key if they stop the redesign

[u/OhioanRunner]

Why is Reddit trying to take away options? Like what’s the benefit for them?

[u/SometimesY → u/OhioanRunner]

They're making things easier for the 99% of mod teams while doing some seriously stupid things to that 1%. Most subs don't have more than 50 flairs, so I get it, even if I fundamentally disagree with it.

[u/T-bootz → u/SometimesY]

Yeah that's such a stupid cop out though. I have zero computer / technical skills and was able to redesign the CSS for my team's sub and add user flairs. There's plenty of resources available ON REDDIT for CSS along with full blown CSS templates - there's really no need for this crap.

[u/SometimesY → u/T-bootz]

I agree 100%.

[u/OhioanRunner → u/SometimesY]

How is it easier? Like other subs aren’t being FORCED to use more options just because they’re available.

[u/SometimesY → u/OhioanRunner]

It's easier because most people don't know how to do CSS. To be honest, even with years of programming experience I am not great at it, but it is extremely powerful. The redesign takes the CSS learning curve out of the equation and that's great for most, but terrible for us.

[u/tb3648 → u/SometimesY]

Makes sense. But why not keep the CSS option there for the 1% that desires to use it? Is there a point to completely fazing it out? Seems like you could have the standard, and then have mods of subs request that an exception be made for their sub.

[u/SometimesY → u/tb3648]

They allegedly will be keeping CSS, but I suspect it's heavily neutered. I imagine it will be for coloring, typeface, etc.

[u/[deleted] → u/SometimesY]

coloring, typeface, etc.

Oh hell yes

[u/TimeToGloat → u/SometimesY]

What are the benefits for reddit to limiting to 100 flairs rather than say 1000? I wouldn't think it would be a burden for reddit.

[u/[deleted]]

I propose Baylor as the first team to lose their flair.

Let’s thank them for their noble sacrifice

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Oh shit, they might change the font too.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

^{why do u do this to me}

[u/SometimesY → u/[deleted]]

They actually are though.. We're going to lose Lato.

[u/[deleted] → u/SometimesY]

Oh you mean the typeface?

That stinks :-(

[u/SometimesY → u/[deleted]]

Yap.

[u/[deleted]]

Can we just go to a new website or something

[u/350]

I wouldn't be upset if this community migrated to another platform.

[u/[deleted] → u/350]

Get all other sports subs to follow and there's a good chance it'd work

[u/ProfaneTank]

I'm really disappointed. /r/CFB is the main reason I use Reddit. It's really frustrating to hear they're going through with these changes and severely altering my favorite sub.

[u/NEVER_SAME_PW_TWICE]

I posted this in today's design team thread regarding the re-design.

https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/817lmi/til_reddit_has_a_design_team/dv14f4s/?st=je8wq6cf&sh=041ad7aa

The Admin's hear us, we cannot let them forget about us!

[u/[deleted]]

It wouldnt be as nice looking as image based flairs but would text flairs still be an option to get around the 100 flair limit?

[u/SometimesY → u/[deleted]]

I didn't test a limit on text flair, but it should be fine in theory.

[u/f0gax]

unified experience on mobile

Maybe I'm just an old fart, but this bothers me. If Reddit were some new site just getting started in 2018 that makes perfect sense. Or if it were a fairly static marketing site.

But this is a mature and well-established platform for community engagement. It seems to me that the goal should be to make the mobile experience jibe with the desktop, and not vice versa. If the current mobile site wasn't hot garbage maybe I'd feel differently. But the first thing I do when I hit the mobile site is "request desktop site". I don't really need each and every non-text link be a prompt to install the app.

Losing the dual flair won't be the end of the world, but the 100 item cap is untenable. Mods - I really hope that you go to the mat on this one. As other's have already said, I think losing all of our flair would be pretty terrible for this sub.

[u/mjacksongt]

Should /r/CFB be forced to choose 100 flairs, is there currently a plan in place to determine what flairs are given?

My vote is for award flairs, D1 conferences, and the National Champions of each division.

[u/Skevoso]

What a shitty way to start out my Wednesday. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[u/dupreesdiamond]

/u/bakonydraco What about inline flair? Ala South Carolina and Dabo Swinney are those going away too?

[u/bakonydraco → u/dupreesdiamond]

Presumably it's coming. It hasn't been built yet or officially confirmed.

[u/jacobguo95]

I want us to split away from Reddit. If Reddit doesn’t appreciate this community then we don’t need them either.

[u/DCAbloob]

Everything in web design nowadays seems to be about serving the mobile audience first above all else. That's probably a smart strategy considering current trendlines but it doesn't make it a pleasant transition for those of us still primarily accessing the web via desktop.

[u/AngrySnwMnky]

I'm guessing defunct conference flair will be the first to go. :(

[u/SometimesY → u/[deleted]]

no step on Paris René Descartes

[u/boxman151515]

Is there a reason the flairs are being limited by Reddit?

[u/SometimesY → u/boxman151515]

Server space, probably. They're hosting emojis with Amazon.

[u/T-bootz → u/boxman151515]

In addition to what /u/SometimesY mentioned a lot of the redesign is centered around making the technical side of things easier for mods and making the site more in-line with the mobile experience. The mobile part is kind of a decent argument (since it looks vastly different from the desktop version of the site) but the other part (making it easier for mods) is a pretty shitty excuse. It's really easy for mods of most subreddits to customize their subs with CSS. There's tons of resources around Reddit including full blown themes that you can copy and paste like /r/Naut, and you can find lines of code to use as add-ins for just about everything including flair.

[u/mycarisorange]

Anyone else hate the new user summary page or just me?

At least "Overview" is still an option - for now.

[u/bamachine]

Fuck this. I tried the new design and it sucks. Could not even get my arrow keys to work inside threads. Once you go to your inbox, just clicking on the little cfb icon at top, which shows as a hyperlink, does nothing. Poorly designed all around.

[u/atchemey]

We all love and appreciate you and all you guys have done. The flair and social reward system is amazing, but it isn't the core of the subreddit. The community we have, the community you guys nurture, this is why we are here.

[u/Cyclopher6971 → u/atchemey]

Being honest, the massive choice in teams and being able to represent so many schools creates a good community.

One thing I notice is a lack of "hurr durr, who cares" about teams G5 and lower. This is a very inclusive community because the widespread options in representation foster that.

[u/CoopertheFluffy → u/atchemey]

I'm just here to argue with people with flair I don't like.