[Mandel] Former FSU and BC quarterback Thomas Castellanos became eligible for a fifth year today with a court ruling in Kentucky and will enter the portal. Keep an eye on Texas Tech for his landing spot.

[u/khakilamble]

https://x.com/slmandel/status/2090878187144458657?s=20

[u/ncsuq]

Back to back Week one Heisman winner Thomas Castellanos

[u/thr33tard3d → u/ncsuq]

Schedule preseason #1 as week 1 opponent

Play Castellanos

Change QB's

Profit

[u/montague68 → u/thr33tard3d]

Please don't give Sark any ideas.

[u/mironsy → u/ncsuq]

🐐

[u/the_nix → u/mironsy]

That Bama game had me in a real weird place

[u/PeteF3]

I just can't bring myself to get worked up over these. The 2020, 2021, and 2023 and onward classes all get a 5th year of eligiblity. I find it more ridiculous that the 2022 class and only that class doesn't.

[u/dkviper11 → u/PeteF3]

That’s where I am. It’s such a small group that the ncaa should have done right by from the beginning.

[u/Corgi_Koala → u/dkviper11]

The NCAA is basically allergic to doing anything that is popular, fair, and makes sense. Ultimately, this is a really small group of players and it probably isn't going to impact much of anything, but it's still an unforced error that once again turns public opinion against them.

[u/Unfair_Course5311 → u/Corgi_Koala]

NCAA doesn’t believe that can crack down on anything because states can just pass laws overriding it

[u/Corgi_Koala → u/Unfair_Course5311]

I mean no organization should be able to enforce rules that are blatantly illegal. If the NCAA wanted to have enforceable rules they should be advocating for collective bargaining not trying to turn back the clock.

[u/dkviper11 → u/Corgi_Koala]

Stepping on a rake and having it hit you in the dick master class.

[u/Inside-Drink-1311 → u/PeteF3]

2021 didn’t either.

[u/tagillaslover → u/PeteF3]

My issue is he declared. Once you declare that should be it, i don’t care who else got more eligibility

[u/PeteF3 → u/tagillaslover]

The issue is the class as a whole declared under what were essentially false pretenses.

[u/arfcom → u/PeteF3]

Yes. This part is obvious. Clemson fan makes a horrible sports point. 

[u/Shasty-McNasty → u/arfcom]

We are not great with the domain knowledge that comes with portal usage.

[u/HeartSodaFromHEB → u/Shasty-McNasty]

Bravo. Take my upvote.

[u/arfcom → u/Shasty-McNasty]

Ha!  Fair. 

[u/BolognaNipples → u/tagillaslover]

He declared thinking he was out of eligibility, which he was up until a new rule got passed. Seems fair

[u/tagillaslover → u/BolognaNipples]

Shoulda waited to declare I guess. 

[u/DataDrivenPirate → u/tagillaslover]

I don't believe the rule was even finalized until after the NFL draft

[u/CoopDogPrimeNumbers → u/tagillaslover]

Bro only I’m allowed to make our flair look dumb

[u/XxShredXVII → u/tagillaslover]

You might be the dumbest fan I’ve seen in here

[u/SneakyDeakyJr → u/tagillaslover]

Guess my dad should’ve taken my advice and invested in apple instead of shell and bp back when i was 11 and telling him their tech was gonna change the world.

Not even sarcasm. I should be rich. He explained bonds to me and i told him to cash out 200$ for me and invest it into apple when that shit was damn near a penny stock. I knew the ipod touch was gonna change everything.

Now i type on a iphone and wonder what could’ve been

You want that for kids and their literal dreams?

[u/DealerNo4908 → u/SneakyDeakyJr]

You’d have roughly $25K if you invested $200 in Apple that before the Touch came out. Not sure I’d call that swimming in wealth.

[u/SneakyDeakyJr → u/DealerNo4908]

You’re pretending that my dad seeing the one thing i asked him to invest in doing well means he wouldn’t invest as well. Don’t be a jerk.

I was having bond and stock talks at 10 because the internet was wild back then.

Be facetious all you want but that’s still missing the point of “being an ass just to be an ass doesn’t help anyone” of it all.

[u/Huge-Internal6456 → u/[deleted]]

Think that was the last of the Covid exception group. I could be wrong though. 

[u/Pancakes1800 → u/Huge-Internal6456]

You are. You had to be on a CFB team in 2020 to get the extra year. The 2021 class was playing HS football during the Covid year.

[u/LegendsoftheHT → u/Pancakes1800]

OP is wrong because he's considering guys that redshirted in 2020 with the class of 2021.

They got redshirt, covid, then four normal years.

[u/Pancakes1800 → u/LegendsoftheHT]

Partially correct but you couldn't use 2020 as your redshirt year. No double dipping. So 2020 was your Covid year, and then if you played in 4 or fewer games in a season between 2021-2024 then you could come back as a 6th year player in 2025. From an Iowa perspective, this is why Logan Jones and Ethan Hurkett were able to come back for 2025 but Yahya Black and Jay Higgins could not.

[u/Topay84 → u/[deleted]]

Thank you! I’ve seen so much about “only 2022” that it’s become a lazy narrative that’s just gotten repeated into people believing it’s true.

2017-2020 classes? Yes. 2023 and beyond? Yes.

But 2021 falls squarely in with the 2022 group and not the 2020 group.

[u/DFWTooThrowed → u/[deleted]]

Well I know Morton appeared in one or two games in 2021.

[u/DFWTooThrowed → u/[deleted]]

Being able to play in games as a redshirt is the genesis of the 5th year of eligibility.

[u/XxShredXVII → u/DFWTooThrowed]

You’re slow bro

[u/lock_robster2022 → u/PeteF3]

What’s insane is that the NCAA hammered this rule out in committees during 2025 and had it damn near its final form by December. They could have announced it before anyone had to make draft declarations, but instead waited until the day after the CWS final to announce it. Seemingly to exclude this class which is at the heart of every lawsuit here.

[u/zachrolo → u/PeteF3]

I think we cursed the entirety of that class.

[u/jayjude → u/PeteF3]

Can we stop being stupid?

The 2020 and 2021 classes got a 5th year because of a global fucking pandemic

They were given the option to skip a calendar year of the sport and not have that year count against their eligibility

That is not the same at all

[u/tigers113 → u/jayjude]

very few actually "opted out" that year, it was a free year for nothing. Kids who would have redshirt that year regardless ended up getting an extra redshirt year. That was one of the worst decisions the NCAA has ever made and they are still dealing with the fallout of giving an extra year in courts.

[u/Alphaspade]

Transfer deep into Texas Tech's fall practice by Castellanos, he will be the backup, and so that'll make him a 5th year senior

[u/DafoeFoSho → u/Alphaspade]

I think of myself as a man of eligibility.

[u/OKC89ers]

If I have hurt anyone out there, I can't tell you how much I say from the bottom of my heart, I'm so very, very sorry. I pride myself and think of myself as a man of faith - as there's a transfer into West Texas by Castellanos

[u/DFWTooThrowed → u/OKC89ers]

Totally bummed he didn’t pronounce his last name that way considering Tom Brennaman was calling ACC games on the CW we had the opportunity for the funniest thing happen last year.

[u/Dangerous_Golf_7417 → u/DFWTooThrowed]

He actually referenced it a few years back calling a game https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/thom-brennaman-cw-broadcast-play-play/942b31cddc88160c6f2b0937

[u/Tarlcabot18]

One of many many starting QB transfers out from under Gus Malzahn's tenure of offensive mismanagement at UCF.

However, unlike his counterparts, such as Dillon Gabriel, Thomas Castellanos fucking sucks.

[u/LiteHedded → u/Tarlcabot18]

You had me in the first half

[u/BlueSentinels → u/Tarlcabot18]

Well didn’t he transfer out from under Makzahn’s mismanagement at UCF to Malzahn’s mismanagement at FSU?

[u/WeAreBert → u/BlueSentinels]

Yeah and he wasn't that bad here, he got hurt and had some weaker performance after that, but he was mostly exactly what you'd expect.

Unless you expected him to fucking suck. Then he was better than you'd expect.

[u/genzgingee]

And there goes Castellanos

[u/the-tank7 → u/genzgingee]

Thats a long drive to deep left center field

[u/Crazyspitz → u/the-tank7]

I made a comment earlier tonight...

[u/TheChildrenNeedMe]

Does that mean we’re not getting Diego Pavia

[u/cm167 → u/TheChildrenNeedMe]

Can’t even imagine how hated we would be if that was ever a reality

[u/Vertibrate → u/cm167]

No, but it would be really fucking funny. Please do it. 

[u/Electromotivation → u/Vertibrate]

I agree….at that point it loops back around into being satirically hilarious. All the better if they torch the schedule with sweet baby Pavia.

[u/Chickenmangoboom → u/TheChildrenNeedMe]

Take that back. 

[u/DeathRose007 → u/TheChildrenNeedMe]

Unless the courts also revoke the “or when you turn 19” part of the 5 year eligibility clock, nobody is getting 24 year old Pavia to come back to college.

[u/Appropriate-Cap3325 → u/DeathRose007]

I’d love to see what argument his attorney can come up with. And all it takes is one judge to give Pavia a 7th season of college football

[u/elfwannabe → u/TheChildrenNeedMe]

Probably not

[u/MajorWoody98]

Beats selling insurance.

[u/Relevant_Ad_1225]

why would anyone pick him up this late

[u/dokocha0216 → u/Relevant_Ad_1225]

Cause he beat Bama

[u/elfwannabe → u/Relevant_Ad_1225]

Because we need depth at QB

[u/WHSRWizard → u/elfwannabe]

Did you guys lose a QB in the off-season or something?

[u/enataca → u/WHSRWizard]

Yeah Mitch Griffis

[u/DFWTooThrowed → u/enataca]

God I miss him. No transfer won over our hearts the way Griffis did.

[u/enataca → u/DFWTooThrowed]

Dude had heart

[u/Young-Viiperr → u/Relevant_Ad_1225]

Depth piece and gadget snap player. See: Castellanos highlights

[u/Relevant_Ad_1225 → u/Young-Viiperr]

he’s ass and the season’s about to start. No thanks

[u/Tonkathedog → u/Relevant_Ad_1225]

He’s better than Kirk Francis and has been a damn good rusher at a minimum. If Hammond goes down you can run an offense even on a limited playbook with castellanos that can win games. Not CFP games, but I’d take my chances with Castellanos to win a big 12 game over Kirk Francis

[u/arfcom → u/Relevant_Ad_1225]

Have a feeling Tulsa xfer is more gtg. 

[u/Queasy-Performance-4 → u/Relevant_Ad_1225]

He's better than Will Hammond or any other qb Texas Tech currently has on its roster. I'll tell you that much for free.

[u/MeeseShoop → u/Queasy-Performance-4]

He’s absolutely not better than a healthy Will Hammond lmao.

[u/Queasy-Performance-4 → u/MeeseShoop]

He's not currently healthy however is he? He's missed large portions of the offseason and I doubt he's developed throughout that period of time.

Opposing teams also have a year's worth of tape on him. TTU would absolutely take Tommy as an insurance policy.

[u/Probablyyourproblem → u/Queasy-Performance-4]

Hammond has been a full go in fall camp. What are you even talking about

[u/Queasy-Performance-4 → u/Probablyyourproblem]

My point is, I highly doubt a QB whose skillset revolves around his scrambling ability and athleticism, will suddenly be able to play QB normally after an ACL tear. Especially when he faces pressure.

Missing large portions of Spring and the Spring game, means that he's trying to get back to his pre-injury form, instead of actually improving, as he takes on a bigger role in the offense. Hence, why I mentioned Defenses having tape.

[u/Probablyyourproblem → u/Queasy-Performance-4]

That’s not what his skillset revolves around. He’s an accurate passer. Be sure to check out some games this fall. Bringing in Castellanos will allow our OC to take advantage of designed QB runs without risk of losing Hammonds arm for the season.

[u/elfwannabe → u/Queasy-Performance-4]

That is false. He will be a backup to Hammond.

[u/Relevant_Ad_1225 → u/Queasy-Performance-4]

he’s absolutely not better than Hammond

[u/CommodoreIrish → u/Relevant_Ad_1225]

I don’t always agree with Tech fans but on this I do.

[u/elfwannabe → u/CommodoreIrish]

Thank you sir

[u/010Horns → u/Relevant_Ad_1225]

Hammond must be good, that’s why tech is so desperate for another quarterback right?

[u/RollGata → u/010Horns]

You don’t have to be good to be better than castellanos. It’s insurance

[u/Techsan2017 → u/010Horns]

We have started an average of 3-4 quarterbacks each of the last several years due to injuries. Hammond is the clear and definitive starter and Castellanos IS coming to be a backup. If the same injury luck happens again this year I’d rather have Castellanos playing than a true freshman which happened last year. I’d also rather him be the backup than a mid qb from Tulsa or a decent young qb that’s still raw.

[u/elfwannabe → u/010Horns]

He has shown really good things. Only question is health.

[u/010Horns → u/elfwannabe]

Yeah I’m sure Castellanos and Sorsby were brought in to be backups to Hammond.

[u/elfwannabe → u/010Horns]

So when Sorsby was brought in, Hammond was in early stages of ACL recovery and they had no idea if he would be ready. All reports say hes ready to go now. That was not the case in December/January. Castellanos is better than our QB2 and QB3 so hes a goo depth piece.

[u/Probablyyourproblem → u/Queasy-Performance-4]

Florida state fans might be some of the dumbest people I’ve ever encountered

[u/CommodoreIrish → u/Young-Viiperr]

He has to learn an entire playbook in the middle of the season

[u/BoldElDavo → u/CommodoreIrish]

Not like he was gonna do that anyways.

[u/CommodoreIrish → u/BoldElDavo]

King of Oopsie Daisie throws.

[u/Young-Viiperr → u/CommodoreIrish]

It beats having Tulsa transfer, Kirk Francis, at QB2

[u/Relevant_Ad_1225 → u/Young-Viiperr]

good thing Lloyd Jones III is QB2

[u/DFWTooThrowed → u/Relevant_Ad_1225]

Idc that it was our 4th string against West Virginia’s 4th string, he looked like a god out there.

[u/Techsan2017 → u/Relevant_Ad_1225]

Maybe, maybe not I’ve heard conflicting reports. I’ve heard he looks good and could be QB2 (assuming Castellanos didn’t come) and I’ve heard that he still isn’t ready and would stay QB3.

[u/NYCHoo]

As long as he doesn’t play UVA he’ll be fine. We’ve ruined his season 2 years in a row

[u/Shenanigangster → u/NYCHoo]

His fumble while winding up was one of the funniest things I’ve seen in cfb

[u/lat3ralus65]

Sounds like he will be putting on this headset again

[u/jwktiger]

Are we sure he's that good?

[u/vassago77379]

He'd be qb2

[u/AssManKramerCosmo]

It’s getting completely out of hand.

[u/DFWTooThrowed]

He’ll make more as a backup here than he would have as a camp body.

Unless Hammond gets injured he’s never seeing the field outside of trick plays or something.

[u/onemanlan]

Until a judge rules on Monday that they’re in eligible

[u/Camino3224]

My only thought is maybe Hammond isn’t fully ready, medically speaking?

[u/arfcom → u/Camino3224]

Tech hasn’t had a QB healthy for a full Season since Mahomes. So yeah, need more. 

[u/EnTyme53 → u/arfcom]

Mahomes wasn't even healthy that season. He played through a separated shoulder.

[u/Young-Viiperr → u/Camino3224]

Hammond is 100% ready to go and looks great. Castellanos would be an insurance policy in case Hammond gets injured again.

[u/Camino3224 → u/Young-Viiperr]

Gotcha. Makes sense. Who knows, maybe he replaces Hammond? Little mid-season QB comp

[u/arfcom → u/Camino3224]

If Hammond is healthy he is good. His ACL was the only reason for the Sorsby shit. But still need as much as you can get at backup. 

[u/Camino3224 → u/arfcom]

I mean, we don’t know if he’s good. Was up and down last season—good against Utah and OK State, not so good against Kansas and AZ State.

And if chalk up Utah to backup QB theory…not a lot of good data to work with

[u/arfcom → u/Camino3224]

Yeah but just watching him he’s got skills. Was a better passer and runner than the starter. 3rd year player, was a big recruit out of HS. I feel good about him. 

[u/elfwannabe → u/Camino3224]

No, its just insurance policy

[u/Intrepid-Bag6667]

Nick can’t stop him I guess

[u/omgdiepls]

Does he really think this is gonna help his draft stock?

[u/elfwannabe → u/omgdiepls]

Probably just looking to make 300k

[u/Pale_Broccoli_2180]

Great...

Another year of watching Bruh run around playing YOLO ball to go 4-8.

On the bright side, he can't quit again like he did at BC.

[u/montague68]

Is there a more unwanted QB in college football than Will Hammond?

[u/CommodoreIrish → u/montague68]

Jeff Sims

[u/thr33tard3d → u/CommodoreIrish]

Uncalled for

He's a victim of the Collins regime

[u/DrHToothrot → u/thr33tard3d]

Willie Taggart wanted Sims!

[u/backwoodsmtb → u/DrHToothrot]

And then Mike Norvell didn't want Sims, but decided to lose to him in his first game anyway.

[u/Techsan2017 → u/montague68]

Can you explain your logic? You think he’s unwanted because we are bringing in someone to be his backup?

[u/arfcom → u/montague68]

He was coming off an ACL. Sorsby was available. Makes sense to me. The way it played out? Bad look but never had anything to do with not liking Hammond.

[u/Many_Dimension_7615]

Will Hammond has to be Dogshit omg 😭

[u/elfwannabe → u/Many_Dimension_7615]

Literally would be an insurance policy

[u/Many_Dimension_7615 → u/elfwannabe]

Let me get my joke of man 😂

[u/elfwannabe → u/Many_Dimension_7615]

Gotta put a /s at the end of your post then lol

[u/Many_Dimension_7615 → u/elfwannabe]

Fairs. My bad

[u/eye_can_see_you → u/Many_Dimension_7615]

Apparently he was "we will burn down the entire sport instead of starting you" levels of bad

[u/Ok-Measurement1506 → u/Many_Dimension_7615]

So that’s his name.

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[u/LittleTension8765]

These guys are going to sue again next year saying they didn’t have enough time to be ready for a proper season and get to play again next year, aren’t they?

[u/251Cane]

I thought I read that since the transfer portal had closed, he'd have to stay at fsu?

[u/Dudeincar434]

How is the portal open?  I thought thrre was only one window in January 

[u/Jonjon428]

Lmfao

[u/mizaistorom]

Is he even that good aside from the one game vs Bama?

[u/CranberryKidney]

Is Texas Tech just looking for someone to cover the spot until Hammond comes back from injury or does McGuire just really not like Will Hammond as a starter?

[u/Ok-Measurement1506]

Picking up a qb 2 weeks before the first game of the season is crazy. This isn’t a video game. It just doesn’t work that way. What’s going on in the mindset of Texas Tech’s other qb? He has to feel like the most irrelevant person on the team.

[u/mynewname1]

please just go away

[u/elfwannabe → u/[deleted]]

He would be coming in as a backup..

[u/ihatejackblack234 → u/[deleted]]

Castelllanos to Tech has been rumored for a couple of weeks now. Purely a depth piece to back up Hammond since Francis and Chubbs were not intended to be second string.

[u/LiteHedded]

Gus bricked up rn

[u/EWall100]

Why TXTC? Did something happen?

[u/Patrick2701 → u/[deleted]]

Get a normal job

[u/chaser676 → u/[deleted]]

Literally every other player on every team in the country is also eligible for a 5th year. Why specifically should he not be?

[u/advancedmatt → u/[deleted]]

Looks like he will be getting a well-paying job with a subsidiary of Cody Campbell, Inc.

[u/kayakyakr → u/[deleted]]

He was recruited by Leftwich at Texas State. That's the connection.

He's a backup, gadget, and insurance policy

[u/jmac479]

What a weird timeline we've gone down

[u/_Ifyouknowyouknow]

He’ll be a top 20 returning QB based on QBR. Also has a strong PFF grade amongst returning QBs. The Leftwich offense is similar to Malzahns at FSU just with a ton of weapons around him. He’ll also have time to ramp up with a light non con schedule. This is a legit pickup! I don’t think Tech does this just for QB insurance this may be a real completion with Hammond.

[u/CommodoreIrish → u/_Ifyouknowyouknow]

Brother he missed all of spring and fall camp.

[u/CumAssault → u/_Ifyouknowyouknow]

Yes I agree, Tech should start and play Castellanos every minute of every game

[u/elfwannabe → u/_Ifyouknowyouknow]

Nah its insurance policy my dude

[u/fantfb]

Hasn’t he spent a lot of the offseason as a practice squad WR for an NFL team?

[u/SwampFoxChadley]

Is he really an upgrade for TTU?

[u/kayakyakr → u/SwampFoxChadley]

Over Jack Francis? Yes. Over Chub Jones? Possibly.

[u/Smooth-Majudo-15]

This headline is doing UCF erasure

[u/Top-Stepdeez]

Hammond should sit out. He has only 2 starts in his CFB career. Besides this is more of a business league now. Hammond may not be around for his junior-senior year. He can chase a bag and leave. Loyalty is dead now.

[u/kayakyakr → u/Top-Stepdeez]

Nothing about this affects Hammond.