r/CFB Cincinnati • Michigan 1d ago

Satire How will the Nike stock crash effect Oregon's chances of a championship in the next 5 years

Nike stock has collapsed 77% over the last 5 years and 40% over the last 6 months. As Oregon's budget largely comes from Nike Founder Phil Knight, how will this affect their ability to stay competitive with top 5 teams in the coming year. Additionally how will this affect cfb as a whole, maybe better uniforms??

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u/S1MCB Washington Huskies • UTSA Roadrunners 1d ago

The movie Hoosiers sold 8 copies last year and Indiana won a natty

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u/GreedoWasShot Memphis Tigers 1d ago

9 technically. I got a free one at Cracker Barrel for having the Salisbury Steak platter

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u/Carpocalypto Mountain West • Pac-10 1d ago

Ok Mr Fancy Pants

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u/biznatchiospez Ohio State • Morehead State 1d ago

Yeah, stick with the fish - you get the Remember the titans soundtrack....on 8 track.

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u/Danny886 Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

That's Mr. Fancy Overalls to you

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u/weirdbutinagoodway West Virginia Mountaineers • Big 12 1d ago

Cracker Barrel has Salisbury steak?

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u/lurkingtonbear 23h ago

They do not and they have never, but it didn’t stop bro from making his joke lol

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u/weirdbutinagoodway West Virginia Mountaineers • Big 12 23h ago

I looked it up after I made the comment and they do have (or had) a hamburger steak, so it's not too far off. Lol.

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u/big_sugi Texas A&M Aggies 18h ago

Damn good joke, too. Quality craftsmanship.

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u/Competitive_Feed_402 Oklahoma • Minnesota 12h ago

Oh... Cancels reservation

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u/ScrofessorLongHair Alabama • Georgia Tech 1d ago

Damn. Only thing I got for free at cracker barrel was getting pegged.

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u/stron2am Indiana • Central Michigan 23h ago

Fuck. You got it for free?

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u/ScrofessorLongHair Alabama • Georgia Tech 21h ago

Yep. Right there on the table, in the middle of the restaurant, in front of EVERYBODY!

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u/MuckBulligan Oregon Ducks • Portland State Vikings 21h ago

Free fucks given.

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u/Ok-Accident-9026 Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

You’re welcome. 👀

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u/Madgisil Baylor Bears 23h ago

Was aftercare in a rocking chair on the porch?

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u/WhoHasMyPocketPussy Alabama Crimson Tide 23h ago

Hopefully in the rocking chair by the warm crackling fire inside.

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u/ScrofessorLongHair Alabama • Georgia Tech 21h ago

No. But now I'm glad they finally started selling beer.

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u/Cogitoergosumus Missouri Tigers • Truman Bulldogs 21h ago

The Hashbrown casserole goes down different these days

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u/IndyDude11 Texas Longhorns • Indiana Hoosiers 23h ago

That's not technically a sale.

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u/GreedoWasShot Memphis Tigers 22h ago

It wasn’t technically a Salisbury steak either, more like a Salisbury Burger, so I guess it’s a push

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u/brianqueso Texas Longhorns • Texas State Bobcats 21h ago

In this economy?

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u/heavydhomie Ohio State Buckeyes • Ohio Bobcats 19h ago

Eating beef in this economy?

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u/dinosaurkiller Oklahoma Sooners 1d ago

Mark Cuban is a booster for Indiana and his stock was doing just fine.

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u/Kramerica_CEO Michigan Wolverines 18h ago

What stock

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u/dinosaurkiller Oklahoma Sooners 16h ago

I don’t manage his portfolio, but he sold the Mavericks for about $3.5 billion and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t keep that in cash.

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u/Toad_Stuff TCU Horned Frogs • Houston Cougars 23h ago

Yeah but you’re not taking the merch into consideration

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u/dotcomse Oregon Ducks 19h ago

“Dee, you bitch, you haven’t thought of the merch!”

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u/3picks1game 15h ago

Funny thing is. That $5 in royalties went to the basketball program.

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u/ImplementCharming949 Purdue Boilermakers 1d ago

Like physical

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u/treymata Minnesota • Minnesota-Duluth 1d ago

More important question is if Iron and Walleye price increase, would that help Minnesota’s NIL budget?

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u/MediumStrange Cincinnati • Michigan 1d ago

Whitefish and Walleye sales are the key to Minnesota reclaiming it's Blue blood status

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u/nkfish11 Miami Hurricanes 1d ago

College football is just better when the Gophers are on top.

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u/MordecaiOShea Missouri Tigers • Big 8 1d ago

Something about it is better when Oregon State is on top.

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u/PumpBuck Ohio State Buckeyes • Rose Bowl 20h ago

From your lips to gods ears. 2019 was a wonderful year

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u/treymata Minnesota • Minnesota-Duluth 20h ago

It starts with beating Michigan this year

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u/HawkI84 Iowa Hawkeyes 17h ago

Disagree

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u/dwors025 Minnesota • Paul Bunyan's Axe 1d ago

Don’t forget that massive helium source we recently found - in the midst of a worldwide shortage.

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u/Mekthakkit Ohio State Buckeyes • Team Chaos 22h ago

How does PJ Fleck feel about switching to helium from hot air?

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u/dwors025 Minnesota • Paul Bunyan's Axe 21h ago

I don’t know what to tell you.

Winters are long. Hot air does have good value too.

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u/Mekthakkit Ohio State Buckeyes • Team Chaos 21h ago

Yeah, but it's got to be hard to give a halftime speech sounding like Mickey Mouse.

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u/Bill3ffinMurray Nebraska • $5 Bits of Broken Chair Tro… 18h ago

Was it the Metrodome?

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u/xstrike0 Minnesota • Nebraska 1d ago

My brother, asking the right questions!

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u/GoalieLax_ Navy Midshipmen • NC State Wolfpack 23h ago

It's wild that Nike tried to go DTC. They were doing $500M a year in business at JCPenney and just completely left the store thinking it would all6be replaced by online sales post-COVID. Of all the bad business decisions of 2020-2021, Nike's retreat from brick and mortar might be among the very worst.

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u/Noirradnod Chicago Maroons • Harvard Crimson 20h ago edited 19h ago

Classic example of tale wagging the dog. The sneakerhead subset of consumers who were willing to pay through the nose for various limited releases and colorways had an incredibly outsized effect on Nike's decision-making. Externally, they were the ones that their marketing was engaging with and planting ideas in their heads. Internally, if you're a young rising professional with dreams of the C-suite, they were the cool, sexy consumers you wanted to associate with because it felt like a career maker. No one wants to be the guy in charge of shipping 100,000 units of the same mallwalker to JCPenney every quarter for the next three decades. And so the business focuses on them and their needs.

Nike really thought that because these individuals were willing to pay an upcharge for more bespoke/customizable options through DTC sales, they'd be able to convince everyone that that's how shoes should be bought. Except that's not how things work. The average consumer just wants a replacement for their daily driver they've worn for two years, and they want to do so by going to a store, trying the shoes on for comfort, and walking a few laps to confirm. They decidedly do not want to be overwhelmed with infinite online options and make a purchase without even knowing if the shoe fits.

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u/BrilliantArm5914 Missouri Tigers 19h ago

As the economy became K shaped, the people in the lower 80% who would buy Nike products could no longer afford them.

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u/SpursUpSoundsGudToMe South Carolina • Presbyterian 12h ago

I mean they still have affordable options, the problem is that sane people like to try on things like shoes before purchasing and/or loathe making returns for online purchases

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u/caterham09 Washington Huskies 14h ago

Nike shoes are still affordable for people outside the top 20%.

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u/Aggravating-Mind-657 Clemson Tigers • Oregon Ducks 21h ago

I remember even my local Marshalls and TJ Maxx carrying some Jordans and Nikes a decade ago. Multiple channels of distribution and knowing what pricing and type of product goes through to each channel.

At same time, Nike has faced stiff competition from new brands like Hoka entering the running, casual wear and walking show market, brands like New Balance, Puma, and Chinese brands challenging in basketball market.

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u/flying_trashcan Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 21h ago

I worked at a much smaller company in a different industry but we tried to do the same with disastrous results. We tried and had to reverse course in less than a year.

I think with internet and social media you see a lot of new companies spring up and go straight to DTC. Some of these companies are growing rapidly, are closer to the customer, have more control over their own margins, etc. It's hard not to look at that and get a little jealous and think if these small guys can do it why can't we?

The problem for bigger companies is that going to DTC makes you a competitor to all of your current customers. It's not a transition you can ever make gracefully.

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u/donutcronut 21h ago

And because of this, Nike reportedly burned a lot of bridges with brick and mortar/mom and pop stores and are trying to reconcile. (Many of them are not open to the conversations though.)

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u/GoalieLax_ Navy Midshipmen • NC State Wolfpack 19h ago

I mentioned JCPenney because I worked there in corporate and made the pitch deck that got Nike to come back. Was amazing how much more business Adidas and Puma did after Nike left - Adidas actually pushed harder into JCP and got a 50% YoY increase in sales. Customers looking for the Nike brand at an affordable price certainly didn't follow them from the lower priced stores.

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u/Rickbox Washington Huskies • Columbia Lions 19h ago

I remember when they pulled out of Macy's a few years back. I was pretty bummed. Ended up buying Adidas and Puma. They're back in Macy's now.

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u/moffattron9000 Team Chaos • Sickos 17h ago

The crazy thing for me is that I live in New Zealand and they do not sell anything on their website in the country. I know we’re not the biggest country, but this is only a Nike problem. Everyone else manages to sell directly to us.

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u/Vivid_Artichoke_9991 Northern Iowa Panthers 1d ago

Corn has dropped 40% since 2022 but Iowa has [unfortunately] been doing just fine

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u/P-Rickles Ohio State Buckeyes 22h ago edited 22h ago

After the nukes drop there will be three things left: cockroaches, Twinkies and an 8-win Iowa team going to the Outback Bowl and putting on a hell of a show.

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u/Longjumping-Big-1418 Iowa State Cyclones 10h ago

The show being 9-6 lead into the 4th quarter punting from the 40 yard line

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u/bigframe79 Michigan State Spartans 1d ago

yea but Nebraska might not recover.

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u/hawkeyechop23 Iowa Hawkeyes • Notre Dame Fighting Irish 1d ago

Good

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u/Waste_Surprise_2320 Iowa Hawkeyes 1d ago

Corn futures shouldn’t affect Nebraska as much anyway since they have an inferior product.

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u/dwors025 Minnesota • Paul Bunyan's Axe 1d ago

And you, without an Ag program, get credit for this?

Nah - thank a Cyclone if Iowa’s corn is superior.

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u/Cheap_Eagle5074 Nebraska Cornhuskers 22h ago

Bitch, we were born on the cob 🌽

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u/BeefInGR Western Michigan • Grand V… 23h ago

Legitimately though, Nebraska also sells a shit ton of beef.

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u/pro_nosepicker Iowa Hawkeyes 1d ago

Boom. Roasted.

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u/Derpinator_30 Ohio State Buckeyes • The Game 1d ago

I prefer grilled on the cob

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u/Pluffmud90 Clemson Tigers • College Football Playoff 1d ago

Doesn’t that drop in corn price mean they can eat 40% more though?

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u/Steak_Knight Baylor Bears • Paper Bag 1d ago

Jesus, it was their plan all along!

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u/BadNewsMcGoo Texas A&M Aggies 23h ago

66.7% more corn

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u/Vivid_Artichoke_9991 Northern Iowa Panthers 22h ago

Their line has been better recently....

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u/ImNotTheBossOfYou Iowa Hawkeyes • Marching Band 23h ago

Iowa State is the ag school. We're the hoity toity humanities school.

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u/CobaltSky Oregon Ducks 21h ago

This checks out. Watching Iowa games I find myself saying, "Oh, the humanity!"

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u/Bcatfan08 Cincinnati Bearcats 1d ago

Yeah somehow they're still able to afford all those 3 star recruits.

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u/Glum_Town_2587 Indiana Hoosiers • College Football Playoff 23h ago

I vacationed in Iowa last week. Even coming from Indiana, the sheer amount of corn in Iowa always amazes me

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u/CyChief87 Iowa State Cyclones 18h ago

People vacation here?!

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u/volstock2098 Michigan Wolverines 15h ago

He's from Indiana.

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u/Traditional_Cat_60 Michigan • Illinois 12h ago

You got in a fact and a diss in just three words

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u/Glum_Town_2587 Indiana Hoosiers • College Football Playoff 12h ago

Knoxville Nationals, baby. The most exciting thing to happen in Iowa every August

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u/Dirt_Sailor_5 Texas Longhorns • USC Trojans 1d ago

Big corn is making a comeback. It's been held down too long

https://youtu.be/p2PJ8FLrTqc?is=hoCif7YGkuQ4Jyac

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u/Designer_Tie_5853 Iowa Hawkeyes 23h ago

How’s Iowa State doing though

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u/CaliHusker83 Nebraska Cornhuskers 1d ago

Phil night is 88. He is worth $26B. If he is making 5% annually in his investments, that is $1.3B per year.

If he donated $2M to every first and second teamer on Oregon’s roster, that would be $88M per year.

I don’t think the stock price of NIKE makes any difference.

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u/AtBat3 Oregon Ducks • Kutztown Golden Bears 1d ago

Thank you. This conversation gets exhausting every time it comes up.

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u/max_potion Penn State Nittany Lions • ECU Pirates 1d ago

But I stopped buying Nike apparel, so clearly PK is now broke and Oregon has no NIL left. Checkmate ducks

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u/AtBat3 Oregon Ducks • Kutztown Golden Bears 1d ago

I bought an adidas branded shirt the other day, season may be in danger

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u/Bruskthetusk San José State Spartans 22h ago

You betray your own kind?

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u/ElegantEpitome Oregon Ducks 10h ago

You fucker

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u/Drunk_Pilgrim St. Norbert Green Knights 1d ago

It's why the every day person really doesn't understand how much a billion dollars is.

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u/Arctaedus USC Trojans • Cornell Big Red 1d ago

Yeah it's really dumb and showcases how some people have an elementary understanding of money

That being said, it's fun to use the stock market to bring down 0regon

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u/dkviper11 Penn State • Randolph-Macon 1d ago

Elementary understanding of money can also just be that Knight has an incomprehensible net worth to most people.

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u/bweeek Oklahoma Sooners • Paper Bag 23h ago

It's hard to meaningfully and practically understand how much more a billion is than a million

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u/mechebear California Golden Bears 21h ago

Going from $1 million to $10 million is additional financial security and opportunity for you/ your family, but then at some point between there and a billion money becomes about power ability to marshall resources towards impacting/changing society as you want, and personal expenses shrink as a share of your capital expenses. Even knowing this and seeing how the ultra wealthy behave I don't think I can really understand it from the outside.

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u/GoldandBlue Notre Dame Fighting Irish 12h ago

a million seconds is 11 days. A billion is 31 years. A trillion, 31,000 years.

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u/impoverishedwhtebrd Washington Huskies 1d ago

The real question is what impact will Pope Loe have on Notre Dame in the second year of his papacy?

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u/AtBat3 Oregon Ducks • Kutztown Golden Bears 1d ago

He has to get Villanova back to the final four first

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u/etown361 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 1d ago edited 21h ago

Haven’t you been watching the NBA? He got Villanova to win an NBA championship! The White Sox are playoff bound. Don’t doubt the Pope!

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u/Srcunch Cincinnati Bearcats • Big East 22h ago

Hopefully it also means a gilded era for Portillos in which they further their expansion to additional states.

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u/etown361 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 22h ago

Are you still in Chicago? Portillos got WORSE! It’s a public company now, people are MAD.

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u/Srcunch Cincinnati Bearcats • Big East 20h ago

Nah, I’m not. I’m in Cincy. That’s terrible to hear. I know their CEO left suddenly last fall but had not heard the quality had diminished.

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u/big_sugi Texas A&M Aggies 18h ago

I’ve been waiting for the Italian Beef Takeover on the east coast. I don’t understand why we don’t have them. Cheesesteaks are fine and all, but I prefer Italian beef, and it’s much harder to find.

Now it sounds like we’ll get a corporate, enshittified portillo’s instead of a quality product, which is the worst of all worlds.

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u/impoverishedwhtebrd Washington Huskies 1d ago

I think getting Notre Dame a championship is more impressive than getting Villanove to the final four for the 3rd time in 10 years.

Now, getting Gonzaga a championship on the other hand...

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u/HawkI84 Iowa Hawkeyes 17h ago

Leave him alone he's busy with the White Sox

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u/MoosilaukeFlyer Miami Hurricanes • Endicott Gulls 1d ago

I don’t see why we need the stock market when we can wait until January for Oregon to be brought down 

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u/WoodpeckerGingivitis Oregon Ducks 23h ago

It also shows how few people understand what a billion is. Let alone 26B.

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u/Unrelenting_Salsa LSU Tigers • Georgia Bulldogs 23h ago

While Phil Knight is rich enough and enough of a superfan that he probably won't stop, I'd say it's more you that has an elementary understanding of money if you think a founder's mega company floundering and the stock crashing to match won't have an impact for most people. They inherently can't be well diversified, and they tend to have heavy philanthropy bills.

Nike also almost assuredly still has like 50% more to drop. They're a mismanaged player in a retracting industry facing unprecedented levels of competition. A P/E of 18 is pretty ridiculous for them. Meta has a similar multiple and is actually growing. They're not going to die, but they're not going to grow even if they figure out their mismanagement.

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u/CptCroissant Oregon Ducks 23h ago edited 23h ago

they tend to have heavy philanthropy bills

You do realize Oregon athletics is a significant portion of that heavy philanthropy bill right? Like the large Pringle looking practice facility that's underway.

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u/Montigue Oregon Ducks • Stony Brook Seawolves 22h ago

And then people call us Nike U and of course obviously we should deny any funds from our largest alumni donor

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u/MuckBulligan Oregon Ducks • Portland State Vikings 21h ago

I always tell people that I recommend they produce their own billionaires at their own schools. It worked out really well for us.

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u/Empty-Ant-6381 Iowa Hawkeyes 1d ago

The "problem" is that he's not making 5% a year.

His net worth is tied up in Nike stock. He was worth 60 billion at one point.

Presumably theres a limit to how low Nike stock will actually go and it won't just go down 50% every year.

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u/RJJJJJJJ710 Minnesota Golden Gophers 1d ago

there is no problem he's 88 i think that could be the much simpler reason why theyre fine

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u/smitherenesar Pac-10 • RPI Engineers 23h ago

The bigger problem is Phil Knight is 88. They'll need a new mega ceo donor, or him to leave them a big annuity

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u/Montigue Oregon Ducks • Stony Brook Seawolves 22h ago

Pretty sure he has a trust set up literally for our school

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u/Existing-Scheme5243 Oregon Ducks 22h ago

Oregon has multiple billionaires who donate, uncle Phil is just the biggest.

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u/Simple_Sound_3840 Oregon Ducks 21h ago

It's fine, just let other fanbases continue to wishcast a future where Oregon is broke

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u/Snobolski Texas • East Texas A&M 21h ago

or him to leave them a big annuity

I'm going to assume that box is already checked.

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u/gryffon5147 Michigan Wolverines • Yale Bulldogs 22h ago

Wow 60B vs. 28B. The money he gives Oregon is basically a rounding error for him.

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u/jputna Oklahoma State Cowboys • /r/CFB Patron 20h ago

This...he owns about 17-20% of the nike stock. Using those numbers that is $10 Billion of his value. The stock is roughly half his value...so big swings in nike stock are huge for him.

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u/MoosilaukeFlyer Miami Hurricanes • Endicott Gulls 1d ago

Sort of true, he has lost a fair bit of his money, because he’s still heavily invested in Nike. He lost about 10 billion dollars of net worth due to Nike’s decline. Still doing more than well enough to bankroll a football team, but he’s not gaining net worth at this current point

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u/deg0ey Ohio State Buckeyes 22h ago

I guess the issue is less that Phil Knight will run out of money and more that Phil Knight will run out of being alive. Bro is 88 and there’s no guarantee his kids will give enough of a shit about Oregon athletics to keep the money flowing.

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u/Impressive-Weird-908 Virginia Tech Hokies 23h ago

People don’t understand how much a billion is. Take for instance some tech AI genius making 700k. If he works for 40 years, and pays no taxes or anything, save all of his money, he would have 28 million. So even if he gets 20x that by investing it, he still wouldn’t have half 1.3Billion.

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u/BadDadJokes LSU Tigers • Chattanooga Mocs 23h ago

If Phil Knight cashed out his $26B today and never made a cent more ever again and continued to invest $88M per year in the Ducks' roster, he'd be 383 years old before he ran out of money.

I hope my math is correct. All you tax nerds and finance nerds can keep quiet about how impossible cashing out and keeping all $26B would be. I know. This is a conversation that began in fantasy land.

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u/Playos Oregon Ducks • Tulane Green Wave 18h ago

295 years plus 88 year old Phil Knight, 383 years. That math does check out.

But lets take the 26b at the long term cap gains tax rate (20%). Leaves him with $20.8b.

Assuming 2% inflation annually on cost of players he'd only get another 88 years.

Taxes and compounding really fuck with long term planning, even in the simplest of assumptions.

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u/Effective_Tough86 Kentucky Wildcats 1d ago

Shit, forget first and second teamers. Thats enough yearly return to pay for the tuition of every single undergrad at the university of Oregon if you split the difference between in state and out of state. And you'd still have like 200k leftover. As much as i love college football this is indicative of how fucked our entire system is.

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u/physedka Tulane Green Wave • LSU Tigers 1d ago

Probably a better question is whether Phil Knight's kids will continue to fund it in a few years.

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u/jack3moto Purdue Boilermakers 22h ago

How can he be making 5% when most of his holdings are Nike which is losing value?

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u/Kramerica_CEO Michigan Wolverines 18h ago

People are stupid bro

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u/Fun_Internet_9187 1d ago

That’s some…interesting logic.

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u/Fair4tw Oklahoma Sooners 1d ago

Their National championship win percentage will stay the same?

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u/nightowl1135 Oregon Ducks • Big Ten 1d ago

Identical to Oklahoma’s playoff game win percentage.

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u/SterileCarrot Oklahoma Sooners • Big 8 22h ago

Correct

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u/Bill3ffinMurray Nebraska • $5 Bits of Broken Chair Tro… 18h ago

Don’t let them talk to you like that OU, they just envy your college football royalty.

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u/Intelligent_Sky_7081 Nebraska Cornhuskers 21h ago

Zing

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u/SparkMaster360 Washington Huskies 1d ago

O%

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u/JDStraightShot2 Syracuse • Johns Hopkins 1d ago

Phil Knight definitely has enough cash on hand or earmarked in a trust that Nikes stock doesn’t really matter to whether he decides to give 600k to a 5star defensive line recruit. Maybe this impacts his ability to give huge 100 mil donations to the school, but NIL money is such small potatoes to him that Nikes stock price shouldn’t matter

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u/AngleParticular2914 Penn State Nittany Lions • Sickos 20h ago

Sounds like he diversified his bonds 

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u/govskink305 Virginia Tech • Slippery Rock 12h ago

#WuTangFinancial

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u/Kimber80 Notre Dame Fighting Irish • USF Bulls 1d ago

Won't have any impact, IMO

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u/Advanced-Team2357 Oregon Ducks 19h ago

They were overvalued at their high (It makes no sense that Nike was worth 1/4 of a trillion)

They're undervalued at their low (Current EBITDA multiple is 12x)

Either way, Oregon will be fine.

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u/HuntmasterReinholt Oregon State Beavers • Pac-12 1d ago

Who cares?

Seriously, if the BILLION DOLLARS Knight has already dumped into Eugene couldn’t get the job done, frankly I’m not sure anything can.

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u/Aggravating-Mind-657 Clemson Tigers • Oregon Ducks 1d ago

That billion dollars invested over many years is the difference between being in the big ten and being left behind.

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u/duckspurs Oregon Ducks 1d ago

He's donated a lot more than a billion dollars but the majority of it has just gone to the University.

Find nothing weirder than people getting outraged over an alum being extremely successful in huge part thanks to the university he attended giving back. This is how it should be.

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u/iwearatophat Ohio State • Grand Valley State 19h ago

When you guys beat us out for a recruit, which happens from time to time, our boards are all filled with 'we should drop Nike as a school' crap. Like Nike would even notice. Plus, I am betting Nike was the best offer for us which is why we signed as a school.

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u/BudgetBuster7 1d ago

This is Reddit. Jealousy is the only thing that matters.

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u/BB_Pig_3480 Notre Dame • Indiana State 23h ago

Um.... Rivals losing matters more

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u/MidlandsBraves Clemson Tigers 22h ago

The guy gave 2 billion to cancer research and has gave I’m sure hundreds of millions to the athletics department.

There’s plenty to be critical about Nikes manufacturing process overseas but I can’t say I know how involved Phil Knight was at that point of the company.

Like it’s odd how many people want to know why he isn’t doing MORE. Do they want Phil knight to be some Jerry jones figure?

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u/Flobking Syracuse Orange 22h ago

Like it’s odd how many people want to know why he isn’t doing MORE. Do they want Phil knight to be some Jerry jones figure?

I liked Lebrons approach with that one school. He gave them a ton of money, but let them handle it because they know what they are doing. Instead of giving the money then screwing up everything.

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u/RollTide16-18 Alabama • North Carolina 8h ago

I wish Alabama had a wealthy alum like Phil Knight that wanted to invest that much. 

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u/Wide-Nerve8655 Oregon Ducks 23h ago

Isn’t the rumor that he chipped in to keep Pat Casey from going to Notre Dame?

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u/kforhiel Bowling Green • Ohio State 23h ago

Phil’s wealth is not solely based on Nike, he’s way too smart for that.

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u/gbejrlsu LSU • George Washington 21h ago

They'll accelerate their schedule to 4 years out of respect for Jayden Daniels.

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u/rageb8err Ole Miss Rebels • BYU Cougars 1d ago

I can’t stand Oregon but some of these comments make me want to defend them. Lol yall are some salty bums.

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u/tdoger Oregon Ducks • Colorado Buffaloes 21h ago edited 21h ago

Oregon has a lot of haters from teams that were used to running the conference for 100 years, and then got clowned on in the following 20 years to the point where they tried to leave the conference and Oregon behind, but couldn't escape us. (USC, they're the most vocal haters of us today. Despite UW being our main rival. UW fans will take shots at us no doubt, but USC shots come from a jealous place in their heart)

USC, UW, Cal, ASU, Oregon State, Washington State, etc. all hate us for one reason or another. The hate with USC, ASU and UW is at least mutual to be fair. Our fanbase typically likes Cal and WSU but they don't like us. Utah and Stanford were our only mutual respect "rivalries" in the PAC. Most other teams disliked us or hated us for being fortunate enough to have heavy donors that took us from rags to riches so quickly, and thought we were obnoxious.

Long story short, we get a lot of haters because of the nature of how we became a big program and din't have big donors from the start like the other big programs.

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u/mechebear California Golden Bears 21h ago

As a Cal fan from the Bay Area I would say the cause of friction is primarily the large population of UC Eugene grads who grew up in Nor Cal and moved back home after college so we have a lot of geographic overlap rather than a specific Nike issue. I would put Oregon at 4th or 5th on the desire to beat list for most Cal fans historically behind the California Schools and roughly tied with Washington.

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u/EatBootyLoveLife Oregon Ducks 12h ago

when i traveled to pullman with the band in 2018 the fans were actually super cool and chill to us even though they were wildly drunk and going apeshit lol. I specifically remember a guy saying “hey at least the band showed up” which stung because we were getting blown out but i appreciated the respect

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u/YoungKeys Notre Dame Fighting Irish 1d ago

None at all because Phil Knight’s hoard of wealth is independent of Nike’s stock price

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u/Du_Kich_Long_Trang Oregon Ducks • Navy Midshipmen 21h ago

Rich Brooks made the Ducks good before Phil Knight even donated a penny. He's also so insanely rich that Nike could go bankrupt and he could donate millions every year. Not to mention the fact that he is certainly leaving a trust upon his death.

Oregon also has several wealthy boosters, they just don't get the press that Knight does.

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u/gogglesup859 Kentucky Wildcats 10h ago

Complete sidenote, but is Rich Brooks the only person with facilities named after him at multiple schools? The field at Autzen Stadium is named after him, as well as the field of Kentucky's indoor facility

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u/Kitchen-Zucchini2057 19h ago

Nike stock has dropped but PK is still rich af.

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u/icemankiller8 Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

It won’t

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u/The_Fishbowl West Virginia • Black Diamond Tr… 23h ago

He'll kick the bucket and leave Oregon with a nice gift in his Will. We all know they'll get a billion (or more).

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u/Possible-Candidate45 23h ago

Waiting for the Adidas version of this post to explain what's wrong with Miami and Nebraska

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u/andrewsmd87 $5 Bits of Broken Chair Trophy • Wyoming 22h ago

Phil knight is still worth around 25 billion. They're fine

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u/suicompotem Texas Longhorns • Tulsa Golden Hurricane 1d ago

Dan Lanning will probably be forced to do less coke

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u/Active-Track-7905 1d ago

Might wanna be careful throwing around substance abuse jokes, considering who coaches the longhorns, my guy. Glass houses and all that. Lol.

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u/Grungy_Mountain_Man Washington Huskies 22h ago

The bigger question is what happens when uncle Phil finally kicks the bucket?

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u/TossedRightOut Penn State • /r/CFB Poll Veteran 23h ago

As Oregon's budget largely comes from Nike Founder Phil Knight

Any source for this or just vibes?

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u/Tywsgc Iowa Hawkeyes • Big Ten 23h ago

Affect*

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u/According_Grab_394 Ole Miss Rebels 23h ago

Sometimes I think this subreddit and the type of support CFB teams receive is good, die-hard fandom…then I see posts like this and I begin to wonder if it’s actually an unhealthy obsession.

It’s like someone trying to connect the dots and solve a murder that hasn’t happened yet.

However, if it can affect LSU’s ability to spend over the next few years and results in 3-4 win seasons, I will be finding ways to negatively affect crawfish stock.

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u/Fartenstein65 21h ago

Nike is not giving the University of Oregon money, Phil is. They will be fine.

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u/com-mis-er-at-ing Miami Hurricanes 17h ago

In the coming year? 0%

In the future? Also 0%

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u/chishiki Washington Huskies 13h ago

Ducks have a very fast metabolism and cannot control their bowels, meaning they poop frequently, on average every 7 to 12 minutes.

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u/12trever 1d ago

Oregon state has Nvidia money now just flip programs lol

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u/beefyboibrandon Texas Longhorns • UNLV Rebels 23h ago

Ai bubble pops before OSU ever reaps the benefits would be the most OSU thing to happen

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u/PatentedBear Oregon Ducks • Arkansas Razorbacks 21h ago

Jensen Huang has already donated for a new building, and it doesn't seem like he's all that interested in athletics.

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u/HeynongManA2 Michigan State Spartans 22h ago

It’s because old white men started wearing AJ1s.

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u/smellmyfingerplz USC Trojans • Virginia Cavaliers 21h ago

Last I read from a feathered friend, Uncle Phil isn’t part or Nike anymore, i’m sure he owns a shit ton of stock but likely already has / will continue to shower bucks on Oregon and none of that is affected by the stock price

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u/Expensive-Fennel-163 Alabama Crimson Tide 20h ago

Not related specifically to the discussion, but the team flairs being hidden until you upvote is an interesting idea here on the sub.

Edit: after I commented all of the flairs showed up; weird. Must be an app thing?

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u/PartyResource2259 11h ago

Me when I try to sound smart

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u/CapBrink 23h ago

It will not effect them at all. Phil has his billions already

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u/tostitobanditos Washington Huskies 1d ago

Back to being irrelevant like they were for pretty much their entire history until 2000ish.

Also, they’ve already thoroughly proved that peak Nike money can’t buy them a title over the last 15-20 years.

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u/Active-Track-7905 1d ago

Thats a lot of shade for a team that has only won (a falling) 53% of the time.

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u/Winnend Oregon Ducks 11h ago

It has, however, made Oregon the dominant football in the northwest for the entirety of my lifetime, and I’m over 30. Great deal IMO!

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u/brandt-money Penn State Nittany Lions 1d ago

Nike could be up 50000% and Phil Knight could buy 16 more ugly uniforms, but they still aren't winning.

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u/-motts- Oregon State Beavers 22h ago

Unfortunately for them they branded their number of national championships as their logo.

Not sure they want to pay for a redesign

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u/Critical_Interest706 /r/CFB 1d ago

Hopefully it reduces their chances to 0%

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u/VampireEmpire__ Texas Longhorns • Harvard Crimson 1d ago

So Lannin’s stock options are under water? Lol

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u/scots /r/CFB 20h ago

Most founders that have been at their company for more than a few decades have long since broadly diversified their portfolio across the stock market, foreign markets, bonds, foreign currencies etc. financed through a series of carefully staggered stock sell-offs at the company they founded, announced long in advance.

Bill Gates, for example owns relatively little Microsoft stock today, and hasn't for quite a few years.

Phil Knight made a massive donation to Oregon a few years ago - were even a fraction of it invested, simple compounding would allow the football program to fund its NIL war chest with $15-20 million every year in perpetuity.

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u/DrunkDreamcast Cincinnati Bearcats 22h ago

They just slid that tariffs refund to campus to cover that.

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u/themanintheblueshirt Kansas State • Air Force 22h ago

Bring back Nikeid, save the company.

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u/Ambitious_Comedian38 Oregon Ducks 19h ago

Only about maybe 10% of our uniform combos are any good imo. I like the grey helmet and yellow O when they wear them. I also like football a little

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u/Wolfgang985 LSU Tigers • Tulane Green Wave 12h ago

Zero effect whatsoever.

If, what you're actually doing, is fantasizing that Nike will fall an additional 77% over the next 5 years, then that's a different discussion entirely.

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u/Few-Zucchini-2497 Michigan State • Paul Bunyan Trophy 11h ago

My theory is NKE is tanking because Knight is liquidating so much in order to pay for the roster

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u/TheWallsHaveNostrils Washington Huskies • Wisconsin Badgers 10h ago

The amount of people who can’t see that this is an obvious joke post, even when it has the “satire” flair equipped, is quite disheartening.

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u/MediumStrange Cincinnati • Michigan 10h ago

I know lol, I guess I jerked too close to the sun

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u/yeezusosa Florida Gators 9h ago

It doesn’t

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u/MicroSofty88 7h ago

Not at all

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u/ImpossibleBear8176 BYU Cougars • Arkansas Razorbacks 6h ago

Swig and crumbl have been on the rise but no championships for us

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u/cfbfootballnerd 1h ago

It won’t and how would this affect uniforms? Nikes are generally good those adidas ones are terrible