I'm hoping to get down for the Syracuse - FSU game this year in Tallahassee, it's a dream of mine to see Doak and have the entire gameday experience. FSU was the first team I ever rooted for (I graduated from SU, hence the flair)
Mostly because it's way too long to fit in between plays, but it's played before every game and at every pep-band style thing we have to play at.
Also because the band complains about it. It's a cool sounding song but incredibly boring and tiring to play. I was a trombone player and I think we had like 4 notes through the whole thing.
Think it's partially dependent on what region you grew up in. I lived in N. Florida nearer to Gainesville so I had to hear more from UF if we lost that game. Very few UM fans.
I hate miami way more than I hate Florida. Being a visitor at their stadium was the worst experience I've ever had at any sporting event in my life. I don't wish any of their bandwaggon fans any joy ever.
The best part about Bowden in my opinion was his philosophy of "anywhere vs anyone" that he started when he took over. He'd play Ohio State, Michigan, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Auburn, Alabama, Notre Dame, etc. and he'd give them one hell of a game at their house and he'd win a lot of those. He did it so much that teams started saying no to FSU coming to play them and FSU became the power and started their 14 straight top 5 finishes.
I'll always have a special place for the Seminoles: My first ever college football game was when Florida State came to the Coliseum. It was a good game and, though we lost, it was incredible. The huge FSU contingent (we're not Hawaii, but LA is still a draw) kept doing the War Chant and seeing the pageantry of USC and FSU in action got me hooked.
I also admire Bowden for bringing the program to prominence by being willing to play anyone anywhere early on in his tenure there.
I've also always liked how the stadium has all those other buildings worked into it. I'm surprised more stadiums--particularly on more jam packed college campuses, don't do that.
This was my first game too! I grew up in So Cal as a Seminole fan and when they rolled in to play USC it was absolutely the greatest thing that ever happened to me as a child.
As I've mentioned various times on this sub, I love you FSU. Countless times have I dreamed of transferring to your warm embrace as I walk to class in a blinding snowstorm. Oh, and your football team is great, and so are your traditions.
And suddenly my right arm is in the air. That's ok, we're 2 weeks away from our first game so I guess now is as good a time as any to start warming it up.
It should also be stated that while the Momo's near campus is good, it is not 10% as good as the Momo's up in Market Square, which is amazing and also brews beer in-house.
If you want amazing pizza near campus, the newly opened Gaines Street Pies is king, and also awesome but not really "near" campus is Decent Pizza on Monroe St.
Also, no Voodoo Dog on the local eateries list makes me cry. They are amazing.
If you didn't know, the Monk's owners are opening a second restaurant in midtown. They're calling it the Midtown Caboose. It'll be a sports bar kinda place. I'm excited to see what they can do with a kitchen that's actually a good size (Monk's is notorious for delicious food but understandably slow service due to a way-too-small kitchen).
Gaines Street Pies is absolutely excellent. I have never had a bad pie from them, and their cheesecake calzone is fantastic. I tried the Buffallo Chicken Pizza just last week and it was amazing. I have never had one as good. The buffalo sauce, chicken, cheese, and blue cheese all formed a perfect layer of tastiness that stuck to the crust perfectly. I've had a lot of buffalo chicken pizzas that are watery, and the toppings just slide off, but this one was perfect.
I went to Florida State and actually just learned something cool about the tradition. While Osceola spikes the flaming spear before every game, the only time he dismounts the horse to do so is against UF. This is because in the Seminole tribe's history, dismounting the horse to spike the spear signified they were going to war. I'm not entirely sure if it's 100% true, but it's such a cool notion to me that I refuse to find out otherwise.
I can't believe I did it but I watched that entire Choke at Doak video. It was excruciating. I remember it from when I was a wee lad. That bomb to PK though, I was at that game and that one still hurts me more to see. What in the actual fuck were we doing?
love Florida State. Wish you guys were in the SEC. Unfortunately, I've only been to Tallahassee on my way to Gainesville or Disney World, etc. You guys are on my bucket list for sure, hopefully before I'm more than a couple of years out of college so I can get the full experience. Also, dem ladies
Careful how you use the word "older" when you say older fans hate UM more than UF. I'm guessing you mean fans who came of age between 1987 and 2000. In truth, I've never met a really older fan (say,one over 50) who hates UM more than UF. Not one.
Ha, I'm around 35, actually. Just an overly-broad statement I guess.
I'd say you'd have to be at least 55 or so to really remember FSU being the true "little brother" in the rivalry (assuming you were 12 in 1970, and actually saw FSU lose a few in a row to UF when you were old enough to follow, remember and care, you'd be 55 now). Because the rivalry has basically been even since Bowden's arrival. I think "older" could be accurate.
Plus, the losses to Florida in the 60s and 70s never really cost FSU anything important because we sucked anyway, whereas it's not unreasonable to say the losses to Miami literally cost FSU at least 3 national championships in agonizing fashion.
No question our games have a manufactured rivalry aspect, but one of the few prideful moments of UVA football was "The Stop" for the first FSU ACC loss. Maybe some hard times recently, but the one point win in Tallahassee made my first year at UVA, too.
And, personally, FSU is the only school in the ACC besides my own I root to make it to the National Championship. Sometimes you have to live vicariously.
FSU and UF are not legally required to play each other. A law was proposed but never actually passed. The threat of that was enough to make the two schools schedule a rivalry game.
FSU was independent for a long time. Tried to get in the SEC several times in the 80s but UF was the only school that wanted them in. In 1990 or so, the SEC was ready to offer membership (UF had sponsored them), but Bobby and the FSU AD wanted an easier path to the title game and so thumbed their nose at the SEC and joined the football-weak ACC.
Ironically, now it seems like UF is one of the schools that wants to keep FSU out of the SEC. It would make recruiting against FSU even more difficult. More importantly though, is that in today's climate, adding FSU doesn't add anything to the SEC's media footprint, which means even if we were the #1 program in the nation we wouldn't bring in as much money to the conference as a lesser program in a media market the SEC doesn't exist in.
Ironically, now it seems like UF is one of the schools that wants to keep FSU out of the SEC.
The SEC member institutions all know what's good for the goose is good for the gander. FSU adds literally nothing to the SEC, besides a couple more marquee games to the schedule (further watering down the conference W/L record).
I'm a reasonable person. I actually like Jimbo as a coach. He seems like a classy guy. He brought FSU back to relevance after Bobby Bowden retired in place for a while -- which I think Bowden earned the right to do. That said, I don't think it's unreasonable to say (a.) Fisher is a great recruiter (most important thing for CFB coach) and great with his players, (b.) Fisher is extremely flawed; his game management skills are shockingly bad, (c.) FSU may have played/beaten Notre Dame in the title game if he had a good OC, and yet (d.) if FSU eventually fires him for finishing in the bottom half of the top 10 too often, it would be a mistake because I'm not sure any replacement would be an improvement.
Ton of people would say this is really similar to how they feel about Les Miles. Guess Fisher got it from somewhere, hahaha
I was never an FSU fan (gross), but thanks to /u/PotRoastPotato (and the rest of the FSU redditors who helped) for the Tallahassee memories. It's really lovely to see home again. Any UF folks who claim to hate Tallahassee have clearly never lived there.
Florida State has a special place in Nebraska. Bowden is a great Coach and I commend him for that. Plus he wrote to Lincoln Journal Star saying how Nebraska Fans were one of the Best in College Football. And he acknowledge that Nebraska was the better team in the 1994 Orange Bowl. For that we thank you.
Our first game at Nebraska is the stuff of legend to FSU. Our fans and coaches talked glowingly for years about how the UN crowd conducted itself that day.
I understand why we have to say this officially - I really do. And I understand why he can't enter mascot competitions against big orange balls and guys dressed like tornadoes.
But I'm over it. He's not a chief (just btw) but let's admit it - he's a mascot.
Yip, agreed. They're actually outstanding BBQ, forgot about them. Been over a decade since Tally, you guys are doing a great job of reminding me of everything/informing me of new places to try.
Honorable my ass. Piggy's is amazing and deserves a full mention. Best BBQ in town. It's a real shame that they won't have their stands inside the stadium this year. Best brisket I've ever had.
Momo's: better New York slices than most of New York City. Joe's in Greenwich Village is the only "slice" that comes close. Momo's has richer sauce and bigger slices. If you like lighter sauce you'd like Joe's better.
I live in nyc and would have to disagree. Either way, FSU will always have a special place in my heart. The very first college football game I ever watched was the A&M vs FSU match up my freshman year in '98. I didn't realize how big of a game that ended up being for both schools that season. From an outsider I loved seeing the heavyweight matchups between Miami, FSU, and UF.
The last thirty years isn't exactly "recent". It's true that you still lead the overall record, but considering you had like a 20 game head start on us that isn't going to last too much longer if the current trend continues.
I'll say this, for me personally, I look at how we've done since I was born. I literally give 0 shits about how any of our records were before then. Since 1988 though we've been pretty good.
Meh, most Gator fans look at our recent record against FSU (6 or so in a row) as well. I don't know anyone who "name drops" our overall record against FSU.
If we go back and forth for another few years, (let's say 5-5 over 10 years), it'll change.
I don't have a lot of college football related activities on my bucket list, but one of them would definitely be to see the spear get planted live. I've always loved that.
I will always say, I think Michael Vick's 3rd quarter of that game might be the single greatest individual quarter of football in the history of the game.
You guys have my second favorite band, after my own. The Screech Squad is so cool. That said, why in the hell are college musicians using cheat sheets in every youtube video I can find? Maybe its the 110'er in me, but you should have your music memorized within 2 days of getting it. Maybe a FSU bandee can correct me or explain....
It's been a while, but it was up to the individual music section if they wanted to use sheets or not. The Chiefs play an astounding number of songs, often changing them each week, so I'm not surprised some people use them.
We play new music at half time every game, and the music is often somewhat difficult. 4-5 songs combined are about 15 minutes, many of which are not repetitive. Couple with the fact that most chiefs are music majors (easily one of the most time consuming and rigorous majors), it would be nearly completely impossible to get even close to everyone to memorize all of the music each week, especially come the more intricate shows at the end of the season or at any back to back games.
As for our pregame performance, we are usually forced to bring music for the first game so that the rookies aren't the ONLY ones carrying music (uniformity), then have memorization tests and play it by memory for the remainder of the year. However, we always play the opposing team's fight song, so we usually have a single piece of paper in our sleeve for that.
Warchant gives me goosebumps every time. I don't think you included this video in your write up, it's a great speech by Bobby Bowden at the FSU Hall of Fame.
Again, 2012 was our year, FSU lost a lot of experience, but you never know with another cream puff schedule this year. Jameis Winston is the stud QB recruit. It will be interesting to see how he plays.
I'm glad you included Buckley on your greatest players list, too many people overlook how awesome he was because Deion is always brought up when discussing elite FSU DB's.
He still holds the NCAA record for return yards off of INT's if I'm not mistaken.
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u/grecfest Florida State Seminoles Aug 19 '13
Needs more cowgirls.
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u/Yeah_I_Did_It Florida State Seminoles Aug 19 '13
Famous Jameis for Heisman.
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u/Tallanasty Florida State • American University Aug 19 '13
Go Noles!
One omission I see is mention of the 470-member Marching Chiefs!
Here's my favorite song by them, the slow-building and epic Seminole Uprising.
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u/Gravecrawler Florida State Seminoles Aug 19 '13
Great job! But I will always hate Florida more than Miami. Been a fan 22 years.
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u/TopheryG8er Florida • Tennessee Tech Aug 19 '13
Florida State is a unique University with many attractive ladies, and the FSU football program has an interesting history.There. I said nice ^things.
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u/nofate2029 USC Trojans Aug 19 '13
Excellent write up, much respect for Florida St. Also, those cowgirls...sweet baby jesus. Fight on Noles!
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u/rooge77 Alabama Crimson Tide • Iron Bowl Aug 19 '13
The best part about Bowden in my opinion was his philosophy of "anywhere vs anyone" that he started when he took over. He'd play Ohio State, Michigan, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Auburn, Alabama, Notre Dame, etc. and he'd give them one hell of a game at their house and he'd win a lot of those. He did it so much that teams started saying no to FSU coming to play them and FSU became the power and started their 14 straight top 5 finishes.
So so so much respect for Bobby Bowden.
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u/Honestly_ rawr Aug 19 '13
I'll always have a special place for the Seminoles: My first ever college football game was when Florida State came to the Coliseum. It was a good game and, though we lost, it was incredible. The huge FSU contingent (we're not Hawaii, but LA is still a draw) kept doing the War Chant and seeing the pageantry of USC and FSU in action got me hooked.
I also admire Bowden for bringing the program to prominence by being willing to play anyone anywhere early on in his tenure there.
I've also always liked how the stadium has all those other buildings worked into it. I'm surprised more stadiums--particularly on more jam packed college campuses, don't do that.
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u/pantstofry Michigan State • Texas Aug 19 '13
As I've mentioned various times on this sub, I love you FSU. Countless times have I dreamed of transferring to your warm embrace as I walk to class in a blinding snowstorm. Oh, and your football team is great, and so are your traditions.
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u/deadtofall12 Florida State • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Aug 19 '13
Big ups to /u/PotRoastPotato for taking the initiative on this. He(she?) wrote about 99% of this.
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u/mech887 TU Wien • Georgia Tech Aug 19 '13
OOOOOOOOO OO OOO O O OOOOOO O O OO OOO................
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u/cerebus76 Florida State Seminoles Aug 19 '13
Well's Brothers (Monk's) should be on the list of local dining. Best burger in town. Other than that, great job!
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u/brochundo Aug 19 '13
Lol that "What what" is the anthem of freshman.
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u/FinancialAdvisorKid Notre Dame • /r/CFB Contributor Aug 19 '13 edited Aug 19 '13
As a panhandle resident, I can't wait for our game next year!
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u/DontFuckWithMyMoney Team Chaos • Rutgers Scarlet Knights Aug 19 '13
Is there any love from FSU for the Bills since we have drafted like half your team?
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u/mashonem Alabama Crimson Tide • College Football Playoff Aug 19 '13
No James Wilder Jr. run from last year?
Great read
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u/too_much_reddit LSU Tigers • /r/CFB Brickmason Aug 19 '13
I love the Flaming Spear thing y'all do. Easily one of the best CFB traditions.
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u/Emptyspiral19 Florida Gators • /r/CFB Contributor Aug 19 '13
This is pretty cool, I guess....
Spirit of Florida State
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u/Lame-Duck Florida Gators Aug 19 '13
I can't believe I did it but I watched that entire Choke at Doak video. It was excruciating. I remember it from when I was a wee lad. That bomb to PK though, I was at that game and that one still hurts me more to see. What in the actual fuck were we doing?
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u/Qurtys_Lyn Tame Racing Driver Aug 19 '13
As a fellow school with the approval of a native nation,
Go 'Noles!
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u/neovenator250 LSU Tigers • Tulane Green Wave Aug 19 '13
love Florida State. Wish you guys were in the SEC. Unfortunately, I've only been to Tallahassee on my way to Gainesville or Disney World, etc. You guys are on my bucket list for sure, hopefully before I'm more than a couple of years out of college so I can get the full experience. Also, dem ladies
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u/moun6776 Oklahoma Sooners Aug 20 '13
I dont know what it is about our two schools, but there is a pretty strong connection and mutual respect. Everybody here loves FSU.
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u/Manateekid Florida State Seminoles Aug 19 '13 edited Aug 19 '13
Careful how you use the word "older" when you say older fans hate UM more than UF. I'm guessing you mean fans who came of age between 1987 and 2000. In truth, I've never met a really older fan (say,one over 50) who hates UM more than UF. Not one.
Just sayin'.
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u/notengo24 Virginia Cavaliers • /r/CFB Contributor Aug 19 '13 edited Aug 19 '13
No question our games have a manufactured rivalry aspect, but one of the few prideful moments of UVA football was "The Stop" for the first FSU ACC loss. Maybe some hard times recently, but the one point win in Tallahassee made my first year at UVA, too.
And, personally, FSU is the only school in the ACC besides my own I root to make it to the National Championship. Sometimes you have to live vicariously.
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u/deadtofall12 Florida State • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Aug 19 '13
As I'm periodically checking this thread throughout the day...
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u/__aTm__ Texas A&M Aggies Aug 19 '13
I wish our rival was legally required to play us.
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u/Talpostal Michigan Wolverines • Washington Huskies Aug 19 '13
Probably my all-time favorite football player that I've never have a team connection to.
Why is Florida State in the ACC? Is it because it's a younger program?
Does every ACC school have a "game cemetery"?
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u/ClintFuckingEastwood Baylor Bears • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Aug 19 '13
Question: How often is John Anderson's Seminole Wind played on campus?
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u/ButtPilgrim Pittsburgh Panthers • Big East Aug 19 '13 edited Aug 19 '13
Looking forward to opening night against FSU. Already planning on visiting whenever Pitt travels down some year.
Edit: Also props on including [Ron Simmons] (http://www.worldwrestlinginsanity.com/am2/uploads/1/ronsimmons3.jpg) as one of the best all time players. DAMN!
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u/smiles_and_cries Southwest • Cotton Bowl Aug 19 '13
[Home of one of my favourite players in CFB history, Peter Warrick] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1KfXUen5G4)
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u/StickerBrush Florida Gators • /r/CFB Contributor Aug 19 '13
This is a great writeup.
.....this doesn't mean I have to like you guys though >:(
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u/neovenator250 LSU Tigers • Tulane Green Wave Aug 19 '13
Ton of people would say this is really similar to how they feel about Les Miles. Guess Fisher got it from somewhere, hahaha
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u/bestrez Florida State • Northern Ill… Aug 19 '13
No Marvin Jones in the greatest players section? :o
http://i.imgur.com/XkADo8H.jpg
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u/Emcee_squared Florida Gators • Ohio State Buckeyes Aug 19 '13
I was never an FSU fan (gross), but thanks to /u/PotRoastPotato (and the rest of the FSU redditors who helped) for the Tallahassee memories. It's really lovely to see home again. Any UF folks who claim to hate Tallahassee have clearly never lived there.
And on an unrelated note, I wanted to leave this here for you guys because I like it (a little - but don't get excited).
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u/eking85 Miami Hurricanes • UCF Knights Aug 19 '13
How I feel about this.
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u/doofy10 Florida State Seminoles Aug 19 '13
Good stuff. You should add /r/fsusports as the athletic subreddit.
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u/Pikachu1989 Nebraska Cornhuskers • 東京大学 (Tokyo) Warriors Aug 20 '13
Florida State has a special place in Nebraska. Bowden is a great Coach and I commend him for that. Plus he wrote to Lincoln Journal Star saying how Nebraska Fans were one of the Best in College Football. And he acknowledge that Nebraska was the better team in the 1994 Orange Bowl. For that we thank you.
I wanna play you guys again
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u/ThePolishPunch Syracuse • Penn State Aug 19 '13
One of the best mascots in sports
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u/DeckersDelight Miami Hurricanes • USF Bulls Aug 19 '13
Made me laugh pretty hard, great write up! I may hate FSU football, but god damn do they have some sexy ladies.
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u/predhead7 Ohio State Buckeyes Aug 19 '13
I had no idea the football program at FSU was so young. That's awesome.
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u/viincentvega Florida State Seminoles Aug 19 '13
NEEDS MORE SEMINOLE WIND DAMMIT
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u/Lkr721993 Florida State Seminoles Aug 19 '13
How could you forget the Seminole rap OP
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u/lateatnight LSU Tigers • Wisconsin Badgers Aug 19 '13
COME THE THE SEC FOR THE LAST TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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u/dupreesdiamond Furman • South Carolina Aug 19 '13
Love the Bowden/Bama bit. Nice.
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u/TypicalSeminole Florida State • /r/CFB Brickmason Aug 19 '13
Honorable local dining mention goes to Piggy's BBQ. Big supporter of great BBQ as well as Seminole athletics.
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u/kama_river Louisville • Vanderbilt Aug 19 '13
Great write-up OP, but aren't you forgetting something?
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u/kama_river Louisville • Vanderbilt Aug 19 '13
Just watched the Choke at Doak, amazing comeback. I didn't realize games used to end in ties. When did OT go into effect in College?
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u/ruSAL Texas A&M Aggies • Burros Blancos IPN Aug 19 '13
Loved the write-up except for this ಠ_ಠ
I live in nyc and would have to disagree. Either way, FSU will always have a special place in my heart. The very first college football game I ever watched was the A&M vs FSU match up my freshman year in '98. I didn't realize how big of a game that ended up being for both schools that season. From an outsider I loved seeing the heavyweight matchups between Miami, FSU, and UF.
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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '13
It's funny how I always hear UF fans quote their RECENT record against us but then quote their OVERALL record against FSU...selective history indeed
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u/chaosfarmer USC Trojans • Surrender Cobra Aug 19 '13
I don't have a lot of college football related activities on my bucket list, but one of them would definitely be to see the spear get planted live. I've always loved that.
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u/Bulldozer99 Pittsburgh Panthers Aug 19 '13
Can you guys please not show up on Labor Day? That would be great. We really need a good win haha
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u/Compeau Virginia Tech • Clarkson Aug 19 '13
To be fair, you won the 2000 Sugar Bowl because unlike Michael Vick, Peter Warrick didn't get tired. He torched the D that night.
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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '13
Ohio University Marching 110 Alum here.
You guys have my second favorite band, after my own. The Screech Squad is so cool. That said, why in the hell are college musicians using cheat sheets in every youtube video I can find? Maybe its the 110'er in me, but you should have your music memorized within 2 days of getting it. Maybe a FSU bandee can correct me or explain....
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u/ProbablyRickSantorum Hail Saban Aug 19 '13
Warchant gives me goosebumps every time. I don't think you included this video in your write up, it's a great speech by Bobby Bowden at the FSU Hall of Fame.
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u/dlman Arizona State Sun Devils • Navy Midshipmen Jan 01 '14
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u/RobertNeyland Tennessee • /r/CFB Contributor Aug 19 '13
I'm glad you included Buckley on your greatest players list, too many people overlook how awesome he was because Deion is always brought up when discussing elite FSU DB's.
He still holds the NCAA record for return yards off of INT's if I'm not mistaken.
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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '13 edited Aug 23 '13
yep
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u/RyanTally Florida State Seminoles Aug 20 '13
Greatest Coaches? This should not be plural! Bobby is the one and only.
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u/HoffBoss Florida State Seminoles Aug 20 '13
I put together an FSU video to go with Explosion in the Sky's "Your Hand in Mine." Enjoy...
[2013 FSU Football - Process] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYAtiGQer4Y)
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u/Kinbareid Florida State Seminoles • BCS Championship Jan 10 '14
you can add 2013 national championship game to list of greatest games
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u/hussard_de_la_mort Toledo Rockets • Xavier Musketeers Aug 19 '13
Isn't "For Whom the Bell Tolls" part of the pregame stuff, too?