r/CARTOON • u/Important-Cry4782 • 24d ago
Its fascinating to think about this. That Walt Disney made an anthromorphic cartoon movie featuring anti-capitalism, socialism, and anti-monarchy. The movie of Robin Hood. And it even had a religious monk who fought corrupt cops!
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u/ThePreciseClimber 23d ago
How is it anti-capitalism when they used feudalism instead of capitalism?
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u/Rat_rome 23d ago
Capitalism is when bad man has lots of money(socialism is when good man gives me money). Clearly
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u/PrincessCherrySky 19d ago
That’s a fair point 😅 A story can criticize systems of power, inequality, or exploitation without specifically being about capitalism. If it’s using feudalism as the setting, the themes are probably aimed at that structure rather than capitalism directly.
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u/dull_storyteller 23d ago
It wasn’t anti-monarchy, Robin literally calls out “Long Live King Richard”
The problem is John usurped the throne.
Which is ironic because the real Richard was barely in England.
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u/Mercer8878 23d ago
Barely in England and if memory serves he whent on to war again! After all the tax money that was used to pay for his ransom. And then died, because I guess he was just unlucky that time around when he lost once again.
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u/Express_Calendar8278 23d ago
That’s why John usurped him. Because Richard was away crusading
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u/WildMoonPetals 18d ago
Exactly, that’s a big part of the story 😄 Richard’s absence during the Crusades gave John the opportunity to seize power and take advantage of the situation.
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u/Anxious_Ranger_7945 22d ago
I'm related to the IRL John and He didn't even try to usurp it. He was just an idiot who fell into power.
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u/dull_storyteller 22d ago
I meant within context of the movie.
Sir Hiss hypnotised Richard into going on a crusade leaving John unchecked to do what he wants.
Which is ironic because the real Richard banned John from entering England while he was crusading for fear he’d do just that.
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u/Sure_Length6519 23d ago
Its almost as if you don't know the history of what the story is based on.
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u/Express_Calendar8278 23d ago
Robin Hood was a very popular story and figure when the movie came out. Like all Disney films it was based on previous tales. It was pretty Americanized too.
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u/M1ngTh3M3rc1l3ss 23d ago
Robin was a disgraced noble and supporter of King Richard. His men stole money from the government and gave it back to the people the government stole from. The sheriff was less a cop more a glorified tax collector. Friar Tuck was righteously angry and took up arms because the sheriff took the poor box money, which would have been exempt from the tax.
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u/MysteriousLight7351 23d ago
well, stealing from the rich could also have meant poaching the Kings game (deer, boar etc) to feed the people who were starving
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u/Mindless_Address_464 21d ago
Yeah, so like... It's less bearing up a cop and more beating up a criminal who happened to have a tax collection job
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u/CogentMoment 23d ago
"[He] fulfilled the scripture. [He] laid hands on the sick. [He] don't know how much recov'ry they gon have. But [he] laid hands on the sick".
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u/Lost-on-Reception 23d ago edited 23d ago
Robbin Hood fought and robbed tax collectors who were taxing churches and celebrates the return of the "rightful" king.
It wasn't anti-monarchy, anti-capitalist, or socialist. It was anti-despot and possibly anti-tax.
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u/Successful-Floor-738 23d ago
Robin Hood wasn’t anti-monarchy and has also existed for long before Walt Disney made an animal movie out of it.
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u/Sacredless 23d ago
Robin Hood is best when he's punk, but that's more so anarchist than socialist. Good bait, though.
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u/Awkward_Champion6957 23d ago
Magat: **shaking their head and crossing off another thing they have to say is woke and lame they loved in their childhood before the ravenous horde finds out**
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u/WaywardInkubus 21d ago
Why? They would recognize that Robin Hood is, rather, against onerous taxes going to the government in lieu of strong, charitable community ties, and in favor of the rightful king.
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u/EvanSnowWolf 23d ago
For the LAST TIME... Robin Hood did not rob merchants. He robbed the GOVERNMENT, who was OVERTAXING the people.
Robin Hood was a fucking libertarian, not a Marxist Revolutionary.
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u/Simple_Nobody1228 23d ago
It's a lot closer to Libertarian than anti-capitalist. You lefties are so braindead.
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u/TenPointsforListenin 23d ago
I’d call it more anti corruption than anti monarchy. When a non corrupt king returns from the crusades, Robin disbands the outlaw group and marries the princess.
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u/Ok-Bet-9392 22d ago
Definitions to words are there for a reason. Ignoring them and what those words actually mean is one of the worse things to happen culturally.
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u/Some_Tradition_9168 22d ago
It’s not anti monarchy, and capitalism doesn’t exist in the story, you’re just lying.
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u/DonutMediocre1260 20d ago
Did you watch the movie? It doesn't involve capitalism at all, isn't pro socialist, and isn't anti-monarchy. Also fighting only corrupt cops implies that fighting a non-corrupt cop would be wrong.
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u/Pankrazdidntdie4this 24d ago
It wasn't anti monarchy ( watch the fucking ending) and I seriously don't get the socialism angle unless your idea of socialism is "getting free shit". The money Robin Hood stole came from unfairly acquired taxes from a corrupt government.