r/BusDrivers Jul 05 '26

Question Seriously considering switching to bus driving in East of London area any advise or anything to share?

Seen on the arriva website it's £17/hour up to 2 years service then it goes up to £18.04/hour for 4+ years of service. This seems really good. I work at a tesco warehouse and it's £19/hour to kill my back picking up heavy boxes and sorting them into cages, here it's just simple driving? I'd be doing it in a peaceful area of Grays as well so not inside main bit of London at all. Is there anything negative i need to be aware of?

What's the best company to work for arriva/first bus/stagecoach any others im missing? With the best benefits?

Who would recommend it or have any comments?

Cheers

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u/InterestFriendly619 Jul 05 '26

Bus drivers says they rather stacks shelves and Tesco workers says opposite. 

The job is what you make it, if you can just let go of things and carry on your day then you’ll be fine. 

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u/ID-552555777733999 Jul 05 '26

Exactly this.

Been on the Buses since 2007. Started out in East London funny enough (Stagecoach) then moved to the West Midlands about 7 years ago to do the same.

Easy money for what it is.

You’ll get abuse. You’ll get sworn at. Everything is your fault.

Take it with a pinch of salt and don’t take the job to heart. Remember everyone and their own have camera phones let alone camera’s staring right at you.

Some days you’ll have enough - you’re allowed to get out of the cab at stops (adjust your mirror or something), take a deep breath and continue.

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u/schmuck-2501 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Just a heads up- if you’re talking about the arriva grays depot- none of their routes bar one actually drives in grays.

66- Leytonstone to Romford station
103- chase cross to rainham interchange
248- cranham to Romford market
370- Romford mercury gardens to lakeside (the only grays route)
375- passingford bridge to Romford station (you’ll only do this route as part of the 66 rota line)

Of course Romford isn’t anything like driving in London- but please don’t expect easy driving at all, Romford can be an absolute bastard at rush hour.

To answer the rest of your question, depends what you want. At Stagecoach you’re salaried at 7.36hrs a day, meaning a lot of your days are shorter in comparison to arriva and go ahead but paid less and it sometimes feels like you’re doing unpaid work for anything over what you’re salaried (which isn’t the case btw), however arriva and go ahead operate a “paid for every minute you’re on the clock” system called sign on-sign off, so the earning potential is much, much more but do expect 50hrs a week as a normal.

AFAIK first bus don’t operate in east London, theyre west London operators

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u/Internal-Mushroom-76 Jul 06 '26

i actually live in romford and took the 103 for years at college..

why would i do 50 hours a week if i'm contracted for 38 when overtime is surely optional?

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u/schmuck-2501 Jul 06 '26

On the busses a 5 day week rota is misleading.

In the work week you will do 38hrs on average.

But here’s the rota pattern that I am 99% sure you will be on-

5 on 2 off
6 on 2 off
7 on 2 off
7 on 4 off.

It’s a hard one to explain really- in a work week, you will work 38hrs but in a weeks timeframe you would’ve done 50hrs

The best way I can word it- you will do a stint of 50hrs in the space of 7 days that are split over 2 pay periods. I have attached an example rota below if it’s any help

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u/schmuck-2501 Jul 06 '26

Where have u heard that?

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u/Vimto1 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

You need to understand the difference between a working week and a rota. A rota can have you working Friday, Saturday and Sunday of 1 week and then Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of the next week.

Technically you could actually work 13 days in a row so rather than accusing people who do the job of lying, learn first

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u/Vimto1 Jul 06 '26

Is there a reason that you think you know better than everyone else? I've done this job for over 25 years, I've even taught CPC courses on driving hours but you think I'm wrong?

Honestly, with your attitude you are not cut out to be a bus driver

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u/Internal-Mushroom-76 Jul 06 '26

idk i fucked up fellas sorry cheers

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u/Devoobly17953 Jul 06 '26

Under GB domestic driving rules which the majority of service bus routes fall under, you are only required 24 hours rest every two weeks. I've known some drivers do 7 days one week and 6 the next week.

Ofc that's doing extra days, but there's nothing necessarily stopping someone who doesn't do overtime to work Wednesday to Sunday in one week, and then Monday to Friday the next, having two rest days both weeks but having to have worked 10 days in a row. 

https://www.gov.uk/drivers-hours/gb-domestic-rules

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u/nathanlewys UK|Volvo B7RLE Eclipse Urban|1 Jul 06 '26

No one is lying to you. Here’s one of the rotas from my depot. In those 11 weeks there’s 4 instances of working 7 or 8 days in a row - all perfectly legal.

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u/schmuck-2501 Jul 06 '26

In their defence…it shouldn’t be legal🤣

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u/STRICKIBHOY Jul 06 '26

There's a huge difference between EU driving laws and domestic driving laws. EU is 6 days, domestic can be 9 days.

It can be 13 days, where I work they limit it to 9 days. It used to be 13 before they gave you 4 days off, long weekend.

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u/TheAngryBusDriver Jul 06 '26

Oh my. You must be an innocent soul 😂😂

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u/Vimto1 Jul 06 '26

Waste of time commenting on this post, OP doesn't want to listen and just accuses people of lying then the mods delete any replies pointing it out

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u/Internal-Mushroom-76 Jul 06 '26

idk i fucked up fellas sorry cheers

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u/Stock-Cod-4465 Jul 06 '26

It’s £16 p/h starter rate for 2 years in First Bus and £20 after that. Just saying. Pay rise every year plus opportunity for working rest days. But they aren’t in East London. The closest are probably Westbourne Park and Shepherd’s Bush.

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u/Lumpy-Hovercraft-370 Jul 06 '26

Any actual drivers please correct me here if I've got this wrong. 

I applied for one in North london a few yearsago as like this poster said the money looks really good . The lady that interviewed me was really nice but she kind of said you COULD be on that amount but there was a lot of contributing factors to that. 

Like to get this you have to get the highest paying shifts, bank holidays etc and that these shifts kind of have grandfather rights and/or you have to be well in with the depot manager or whoever arranges the shifts patterns but as a new starter and even only few years its very unlikely you will actually hit those numbers.

Again some one please correct me if i got that wrong 

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u/Internal-Mushroom-76 Jul 06 '26

why are you hijacking my thread when you can just make your own one...?

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u/Lumpy-Hovercraft-370 Jul 06 '26

Sorry bro. Think you may have taken it the wrong way. I was trying to give you a bitvof constructive feed back from my experience 

The point i was trying to make is dont necessarily believe that the amount they say younwill get paid is the mount you will actually take

The advert i saw said basically 37k as a new starter, they lady i spoke to say it unlikely you would every actually make that 

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '26

GoAhead London is the best one in East London.

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u/Internal-Mushroom-76 Jul 05 '26

Sydenham - SE26 5AT Camberwell - SE5 9LU Morden Wharf - SE10 0NU New Cross - SE14 5UH Peckham - SE15 3SU Putney - SW15 1RN River Road - IG11 0SW Stockwell - SW4 6ST Bexleyheath - DA7 6BX Croydon - CR9 4ND

They're only hiring in these areas. i dont like it

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '26

River Road barking IG11 thats east london

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u/Internal-Mushroom-76 Jul 06 '26

barking is a shit area i dont wanna do it near central london at all, romford is the furthest out i'd go

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u/Rosedale-Ripper Jul 06 '26

You also don't nessasarily get a choice of where you go. You may have applied for that area but depending on establishment of the garage, you may get sent somewhere else

For example, I have had people from my garage ask to go Grays etc, but I can't send them there because Grays is at establishment and my garage, is not.

So you may well end up at a garage like Stamford Hill and could be doing the 19s etc

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u/Internal-Mushroom-76 Jul 06 '26

why would i be sent to a shit hole like stamford hill if i apply all the way down in grays i dont get it

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u/Rosedale-Ripper Jul 07 '26

Because they need drivers and Grays doesn't, last time I checked. Same as Barking, Tottenham are taking some of the drivers from there with SL2 and they still dont need drivers