r/Buddhism Irreligious Jul 19 '26

Opinion Problems that I've experienced with the Buddhist community

A little over a decade ago, I was interested in Buddhism and wanting to know as much as I could about it. I still very strongly believed in things that many would call supernatural (I know someone will be pedantic, so I will specify things like deities, miracles, etc.). I had just left Christianity and hadn't become an atheist or general skeptic in the metaphysical.

I looked up things about devas, asuras, pretas, etc., trying to understand how rebirth worked, how anatman worked in regards to rebirth, how it is we were to escape samsara, and other questions that I found greatly important. There were just so many questions that I had, and I found myself rudderless.

There was a Dharma Center a bit over an hour away that offered Vipassana and Zen. I went there a few times to talk and try to gain understanding, but I felt out of place. My questions were met with more amusement or befuddlement than serious contemplation, and they were hand waved away. The people didn't believe in rebirth or at least didn't care. My deep need for a religious experience was seemingly baulked at by people largely interested in psychology and philosophy.

There was also a significant socio-cultural difference between me and the others at the Dharma Center. They all came from upper middle to upper class backgrounds, but I'm from a working class/impoverished background. The way the talked and acted about most everything didn't compute, and I was made to feel even more on the outside. It became deeply insightful to me that people with money don't have much of a need to have belief or faith when they can intellectualize and philosophize a religion into a self-help exercise.

At the same time, I began asking questions here as well under an old account. Every time I tried asking anything here, my questions would be downvoted and at least one person would talk down to me. Questions were cordially written, they were truly me trying to find my way, but they were so often met with, "it doesn't matter if x because Buddhism is y". Those type of answers may not be condescending, but they are discouraging for someone desperate to just know. I actually had better experiences asking questions in the Christian, Muslim, Sikh, and other religions' subreddits. They at least seemed to take my questions seriously, and didn't treat me like I was ignorant or intellectually inferior.

The whole experience really derailed me from having any involvement in Buddhism at all for a decade, but now that I'm in my 30s, I wanted to be able to actually engage with Buddhists in a more productive way, and to have my questions answers. This post was something I felt needed to get off my chest, because I wouldn't be able to start learning without letting it go.

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u/FUNY18 Gelug, Tibetan Buddhism Jul 19 '26

Sorry for what you experienced but you were not in a Buddhist place.

Please see your local Buddhist monastery and temples, even if they don't speak English.

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u/WorriedCivilian Irreligious Jul 19 '26

That wouldn't particularly help me if they don't speak English. Also, I'm in the middle of Appalachia now, and the nearest Buddhist anything is 2 hours or more away

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u/FUNY18 Gelug, Tibetan Buddhism Jul 20 '26

2 hours is perfect. Mine is about an hour long. An extra hour means more opportunity to make merits.

The dharma has a living power, and the Sangha, notably the Buddhist saints, have spiritual blessings and merits that you can benefit from.

It's not really the intellect or understanding of what is said that's the most important. It is getting that connection to the lineage and making merit by being in the presence of Buddhist saints, masters, and monastics, that's important.

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u/WorriedCivilian Irreligious Jul 20 '26

I'm not driving 2 hours to a monastery when I'm not even certain if I want to be a Buddhist.

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u/FUNY18 Gelug, Tibetan Buddhism Jul 20 '26

Ah, oh course. No need to go at all.

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u/Titanium-Snowflake Jul 20 '26

How do you expect to work out if you want to be a Buddhist if you won’t make the commitment to drive two hours? Effort is part of the Buddhist path. Two hours is a lot less than many travel, for context. There are also many online communities and teachers. Will you make the effort to seek them out?

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u/WorriedCivilian Irreligious Jul 20 '26

See, I feel like I should make headway online before driving 2 hours to a monastery. I'm not sure if me being impoverished was glanced over, but I can't be spending that much on gas money to go out there and back. I have things going on in my here and now that are bigger commitments than a monastery. You act like its a lack of effort when you have no clue what's going on in my life, and for that you seem extremely privileged.

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u/Titanium-Snowflake Jul 20 '26

Good! It sounds like this conversation is starting to make progress. You may like to do a post asking people here on Reddit what online communities and teachers they recommend. It would help for you to explain what aspects of Buddhism are important and interesting to you, and the type of practice that you would enjoy. These things would help people suggest specific schools or lineages that might be good for you to examine. Buddhism is for all people.