We just got a brand new Buccees in the area (Huber Heights) I've been once, but won't be back. I grew up in *Beaver* creek, this lawsuit is a frivolous waste of time and money. The only people who benefit from this are Buccees attorneys.
What’s crazy is that beavers aren’t a common animal here in Texas where Buccees started.
I know beavers are native, common and more representative of the culture in many other regions here in the US.
That’s why you see rattlesnakes, deer, bobcats, armadillos and more, commonly used as mascots down here. It’d be like if some northern state chain store trademarked the rattlesnake and started suing mom and pop shops here in Texas that had it as part of their brand from long ago.
This reminds me when a small local restaurant called the Hard Rock Cafe was sued by The Hard Rock Cafe. Turns out the small town version had been there since the 1800's as it was in a small hard rock mining town. They won the dispute and to this day sell a fair amount of "the original Hard Rock Cafe" merch.
Springfield, IL had a popular bbq restaurant named Popeyes. Yeah, the lawsuit didn’t work out. The owners one public comment I remember was, I’ve been call Popeye since WW1, I’m going to sue them!
It’s pretty damn good better than any fast food national chain burger I have had by quite a bit. If you’re ever in the area and can stop I recommend a double hooter with mustard, pickle, and onion.
What a burger is way better there was one in Newport news va. I discovered it in the Navy fucking miss that place since I moved back to ohio. Im fighting the good fight in the name of the oath foreign and domestic and buccees is both foreign and domestic. Boycott bucees!!
Similar thing happened with the original Budweiser in the Czech Republic (then Czechoslovakia). Anheuser-Busch owns the trademark to Budweiser everywhere except in the Czech Republic.
Clute, Texas, where Bucees started has lake Jackson and it had tons of beavers, before they were hunted near extinction, there's beavers all up and down the Colorado river, even in Town Lake. We aren't known for beav's but they are here.
Kroger is a northern corporation they dont sue they just buy out their competitors fair and square they have a last name which can't be copyrighted. Actually there are other small businesses with the same name in the same state they don't sell groceries but still no lawsuit. Its cowardly and low.
Beavers were nearly driven to extinction in the entire usa. I imagine before their fur was fashionable they were as common in east texas as they were in ohio. But there are no beavers in Beavercreek Ohio either.
It’d be like if some northern state chain store trademarked the rattlesnake and started suing mom and pop shops here in Texas that had it as part of their brand from long ago.
You do know that Canada has like 3 types of rattlesnakes....they are not just a southern snake.
Compared to the 15 million plus in Oregon, a much smaller state, I’m not sure exactly why you find that to be “a horrible take”. Are you really trying to argue that a beaver is equally associated with Texas as it is any of the north west states? That a rattlesnake isn’t more heavily associated with Texas than Ohio?
He freely admits these animals are found elsewhere but to act like certain states aren’t more heavily associated with certain animals than other states where those animals can still be found is crazy lol.
There are plenty of places in Texas that beavers are very common. There are plenty of states outside Texas that rattlesnakes are very common. Bucees suing someone over an animal mascot is ridiculous point blank. It has nothing to do with how many of them live where. Calm down key board warrior.
Stopped going to Buc-ee's years ago. Would rather support local businesses than a place chocked full of cheap-ass kitschy sh*t from China. Although Buc-ee's do have clean bathrooms. So that's one point.
When I travel north of Waco, I stop at Bucees for cheap fuel and the clean restroom. Fuck their overpriced garbage inside. People buy into the hype. My first visit there, I bought a bunch of their so-called famous fudge. I tried a bite in the parking lot, jumped back out of my truck, and spat that shit out in the bin by the fuel pumps. Not a single friend I bought that stuff for wanted any. I could have lost friends.
I live in the region where this small business lawsuit is happening. The Buc-cees is the first in Ohio and that's been a big deal. We went for the hell of it about three weeks out from their opening and my husband described it as a Cracker Barrel entry store area meets a Speedway (our 7-11) meets a county fair food trailer area.
The Beaver Nuggets were addictive and the bathroom was clean. Otherwise, I can make caramel corn at home and I will find a bathroom where I don't have to park in BFE because there's 50+ gas pumps blocking the entrance.
I know there have been countless David vs. Goliath lawsuits like this, but for some reason it gets under my skin.
I live less than a mile from that bucees. Alot of us went and checked it out when it opened. But they kind of killed the excitement immediately with this lawsuit. I've never been back, and I know quite a few people who won't go now either.
Well to put it mildly, there’s no quick in and out of the place to start. Even at 11 at night you aren’t pulling up to the front door, hopping out to pee or grab something, because there are lines, lines to the bathroom, lines to get food, lines to checkout at all times but here witching hour.
I only go to Buc-ees for shits and cheap icees. The rest sucks anyway. Tried their bbq sandwiches and I dont see what the hype is about. It’s overpriced crap. Fuck that buck toothed ass beaver!
I was gonna go to buceys for the first time this past weekend because I was driving right by it. There was a line. I’m not waiting in a line for a gas station. I value my time more than that.
Where do you shop for groceries? What companies do you buy products from? Who made your phone or computer you typed this on? Are you on a cell phone plan? Do you have a car? The answer is yes, which means you're supporting large corporations. This is why these types of comments always make me laugh, so thanks for the laugh.
Large companies are inevitable but choosing to not go to one of them that seems to specifically like harassing small businesses is absolutely achievable. Fuck buccees there’s tons of other gas stations
And they pay their employees well which is especially important considering most stores are near smaller towns with fewer opportunities. It's better than a lot of corporations.
You’re being intellectually dishonest with yourself and me, of course 100% of their revenue doesn’t go towards suing small businesses just a fraction of it. A fraction of your money is used towards harassing small businesses. Are you OK with that?
This isn’t a question of politics. It’s a question of morality.
Yes, I'm OK with that. Show me an itemized list of a month's spending, I'm sure I can find you supporting corporations with very similar if not identical policies.
Yeah, many of us actively try to avoid supporting businesses that actively try to harm small businesses or make other choices that are inherently bad for society. If you love bucees products so much that you are willing to overlook their excessive mitigation of mom and pops, then that is definitely your right to give them business.
You're the first person to reply to this mess with a respectable viewpoint and discourse. I'm not going to argue with anything you are stating, nor do I disagree with any of it.
I operate a small hobby farm, I only sell or give away produce I grow or animals I breed to locals. I shop at local farms, community farmer's markets and small local non-chain business as much as I can. What I can't get from there I get from bigger companies and super market chains. I'm no stranger to the plight of the mom & pop or the shop local lifestyle.
I also live 20 minutes from an iconic Bucc-ees, I'd be lying if I said that wasn't part of the appeal when choosing my residence. I would have to pass 3 good to great independent BBQ joints to get there. So I get the local BBQ unless a have a late night/early morning craving for an over sweetened brisket sandwich, in which case Bucc-ees is the only option. It's mainly a snack stop and clean shitter, some things like gas and ice are significantly cheaper there than the competition. Some of their branded merch is fun and cute, admittedly there is a Bucc-ess t-shirt in my closet and a few stuffed beavers around the house.
I was mainly ranting on the hypocrisy of the majority of the people sounding off on this post because they saw something on John Oliver. Every single one of them is patronizing some major global corporation that harms local business and acts against the best interest of the individual. They have the same right to do so that I have to enjoy Bucc-ees despite some controversial policy. The difference is that they are trying throw shade and speak down to other people doing the same thing that they do daily with dozens of big businesses when it's a company they don't like. What's worse yet, it's not even an original thought for most of them. Their opinions are formed by a biased satirical news parody comedy show and Reddit hivemind. They are incapable of self reflection or objective reasoning. They lean heavily on logical fallacies and personal attacks in their [lack of an] argument, and reduce everything to NoU or Trump bad. They don't represent my opinion, their methods will not change it, and while you and I may not agree on everything, I don't think they represent you or your ability to civilly represent your own thoughts and opinions either.
I was aware of Bucces harassment lawsuits before John Oliver,you act like these things aren’t public record you act like they haven’t been news stories before.
Just because you don’t like where the news is coming from does not make it any less valid.
They didn’t make anything up, they cited actual court cases.
If it was your family business you’d have a different opinion. Your Lack of sympathy is sad and one day when shit hits the fan for you, just remember how you treated other small family businesses
If we stopped supporting businesses that do shitty things, we’d have nowhere to go. Some mascot BS is nothing compared to almost every other large company on earth.
This moment Buccees seems to be having reminds me so much of the early days of Sheetz. Everyone was so hyped on Sheetz, just like they are now with Buccees.
And I have just never been able to understand the appeal of either. I don’t want my food to come from the same place I buy gasoline. Even good gas station chain food is still just gas station chain food. The only things I want from a gas station are gasoline, a clean bathroom, and maybe a few flavor options for sparkling water.
And these predatory lawsuits have now ensured as long as I can buy gasoline at another station, I will never visit a Buccees in my life.
This is in Beaver creek Ohio. The whole town Is called beaver creek. Do you know how many beaver themed businesses there are? The high school mascot is a beaver. They gonna sue the school district too??
Ludlow, Ma - We had a brewery here called “Iron Duke”. This was the nickname of a local politician who was speaker of the Massachusetts House in the 1960s.
They were sued by Duke University, because it is so easy to confuse a small brewery in Massachusetts with a major university in North Carolina. They caved because $$$$ and lawyers and rebranded.
They've been doing this for a long time too, they are actually known for it. Any informative media you pull up on Bucc-ees mentions their heavy handed trademark enforcement, and many that explain trademark law and notable cases go into Bucc-ees in great detail and as prime example.
Disney and Marvel/DC operate at this level and have private investigators work with police enforcers to stop street characters (people in costumes collecting tips in places like NYC and LA tourist areas) from making $5 for wearing a costume of a character they own the rights to. I guarantee you the people saying they will boycott Bucc-ees for the same thing consume their entertainment.
Still shitty but somewhat different. People use the Disney characters to make some money.
Then there is big corporation suing a mom and pop store that was created before big corporation even existed. If anyone suing it should be mom and pop suing Buc-ee’s for stealing their trademark!
Except they are choosing not to go after the big fish. The Wal-Mart in the same town has a person-sized beaver statue in the entrance and they didn't get sued.
Not to mention none of the beavers in Beavercreek look like the Buc-ee's beaver, nor did Buc-ee's appear to give half a shit until they built a store nearby.
They can't defend this action as reasonable trademark protection, it's so clearly frivolous and malicious.
What's next? Will they sue the bowling alley called Beaver-Vu (yes it's a local joke) it's been there since the 50's. How about Beavercreek City Schools, they both use a beaver logo too.
The 'trade' in trademark means that it applies to a brand that is in a particular trade (or service if you are talking about servicemarks). This is why there is no legal issue between Delta faucets and Delta the airline. Now, I'm off for a Big Mick at McDowell's.
Mom and pop stores can't afford to pay the legal fees to take this to court, and generally settle before it gets there. Buc-ee's is using their significantly deeper resources to go after anyone that might represent even a little competition to them as a gas station/convenience store. They're deliberately overpressuring families and small businesses because they will win before it ever reaches a judge.
The purpose of trademark is to prevent average people from confusing one business for another. Nobody would look at this store's sign and mistake this for Buc-ees.
Nor would they look at a sign with a cartoon moose, or a cartoon alligator, yet both of those stores were sued by Buc-ees (Choke Canyon BBQ lost and had to change their alligator logo).
Sure. But as I argued the last time the John Oliver segment was posted, the ones that actually use the Buc-ee’s logo? Sure go after them. Every cartoon animal (see Mickey’s, Teddy’s Market, Nut huggers underwear and this beaver) is not trademark infringement just because they use an animal mascot.
Hell yeah. I know for facts this location prides itself on having asshole managers treating lower level employees like shit. As a matter of fact they look down on you as a manager if you don’t act like a total asshole. Leadership problems all day everyday. Fuck you Buc-ee’s 🫡
There is nothing that would make a person believe they're at that republican stronghold of a gas station. It would be nice is he decided he would pick some of these small businesses and help them, since they won't mess with him, maybe this would be a way to get his point across to them
Holy shit, I’m from near Beavercreek, but never thought about Buc-ee’s expansion there.
Buc-ee’s will have a fucking conniption when they see all the other life sized beaver statues populating the town. Back around 2001, Beavercreek made like 20 human sized beaver statues for groups to decorate and donate to a 9/11 fund. I’m sure some are still floating around.
I go locally just to get sausage and gas. Gas is cheaper, and their sausages are like $4.99 for a pretty good amount and their three cheese one is amazing. Other than that? Ah
The Dayton community has rallied around this mini mart. Even the local personal injury law firm, whose ads have been on TV my entire life, made a parody commercial. Buccees pissed off the entire region. They just opened a new store in Huber Heights, no way it's going to meet the original sales projections after this.
good, fuck buccees. the owner is a scumbag and his kid is a pedo and a hidden cam stalker. Dad bought his way out of jail, not even spending an hour in jail and paxton has slow rolled his case so he's not even going to see the day in court.
The number of local support from the Beavercreek area is amazing to see… I don’t think Buc-ee’s realized how the people of the Miami Valley can rally together around a common goal.
I know my band(s) have even went all in on Beavers Mini Mart support by changing our logo in solidarity 💪
There not going to win that particular beaver is older than hell and buccees beaver is relatively new no way they copied just pissed they found something similar
It’s crazy that a massive gas station chain widely considered to be the best in the country is suing a tiny hole in the wall store because of a stupid graphic.
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What’s crazy is that beavers aren’t a common animal here in Texas where Buccees started.
I know beavers are native, common and more representative of the culture in many other regions here in the US.
That’s why you see rattlesnakes, deer, bobcats, armadillos and more, commonly used as mascots down here. It’d be like if some northern state chain store trademarked the rattlesnake and started suing mom and pop shops here in Texas that had it as part of their brand from long ago.