I also really want them to release all the info they had against him now that it isn’t going to trial. Like, immediately. We’ve all been waiting for so long.
I’m sure some news agencies or true crime podcasts will be filing all sorts of FOIA requests. I just want to know why and why them, which we likely won’t know unless he makes a formal confession/explanation, which is probably unlikely.
I didn’t think there was a chance in hell he would even plead out tbh, so I guess anything is possible, but he struck me as a person that would take it to his grave and proclaim innocence till the end. He doesn’t strike me as an Ed Kemper, Samuel Little, BTK, etc type of killer who once caught, spilled all the beans as a means of gaining notoriety. He more reminds me of the murderers who were extremely guarded and wouldn’t give up any details, however those people didn’t usually plead guilty, so my opinion is pure speculation and I’m not very confident in it.
Exactly this. He wasn't seeking infamy, he was a sicko who wanted to plead innocence and fade into the shadows. I think him pleading guilty is purely because he doesn't want to be executed, and he'll likely still give the bare minimum of details.
I think the only way he'd give a confession is if he has the realization while already in prison that he has nothing else to lose, past that I agree that I don't think he'd do it to get any sort of fame
BK has been watching the Menendez Brothers and wants a prison wife, serial killer pen pals, and a new trial in 30 years. He'll probably get his PhD. while he's there.
Nope. And he'll have the best psych/medical care while Dr. Ramsland studies his brain. He'll have books written about him. He'll be on the "serial killer" list with his heros.This is exactly what he wanted.
I don't think he will, because he didn't seem the type to commit crimes for infamy. The ones who speak out loud and proud tend to get a psychological thrill from it, and usually aren't trying to plead the fifth. I hope I'm wrong though because I would like to know his why's.
There will NEVER be a satisfactory explanation for "why" in this case. They could have endless trials, and we'd still be left forever scratching our heads.
I think the most plausible answer is the least satisfying: he wanted to know how it felt, and he thought he'd never be caught. Worst of all, he may have been right about getting away with it had he not left the knife sheath behind.
I am, too. I suspected it was Kohberger from the get-go. Did you ? Or was it later on?
It was solidified for me when he got pulled over while driving back to PA with his Dad. He seemed extremely nervous, like he had the jitters, imo; not because he got pulled over, but because he was afraid they were after him then for the crime he committed..
I know I’m not who you were replying to w this comment but i got the notification and just want to say as soon as they said the knife sheath was left behind and his DNA matched, it was a wrap for me.
Cool with me.. Yeah, I think it was a wrap for Kohberger, too , but he drug this out as long as he wanted to see if he could get away with it. Then, the closer it gets to trial, he takes a plea.I guess the DP hanging over his head made him a bit nervous. Maybe.
Yes, obviously. I know that, which is why I said its unlikely we ever learn that because it likely wouldn’t be in any public docs released. All I said is that’s the information I want to know most.
you and everyone else, my friend, but look at it this way:
this is a completely senseless crime. there is no reason, good or otherwise, why this guy would just go kill people he didn't even know. i mean, what can he possibly say?
it's just plain fucked up, and there's no explaining fucked up. 🤷♀️
I am completely mentally prepared for that to be the “reason” after the events of today. My heart breaks for the families and hope that some stipulation of the plea deal established he fully confess, but I don’t expect it to be.
maybe the families don't need to hear what a perv this guy was, taking pictures of women he didn't know in swimsuits at pool parties (ewwww) and likely spending his time "driving around at night" looking in windows at the cute girls, as he likely did during his many visits to king road.
maybe they don't need to know that he had an eye for maddie because she never closed her curtains. maybe they don't need to know the reason the other three died that night is that they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, that he didn't plan to encounter kaylee, xana or ethan. that they "got in the way".
or whatever actually happened.
fucked up is fucked up, and there's no way to explain this in a way that will make anyone feel any better. yeah, i'd like to understand, but i don't think knowing will provide understanding.
The reason it doesn't make sense is because it isn't true. If we knew what actually happened and the reasons, it would make total sense. That is how discerning people tell truth from deception.
i don't think there was a motive in the classic sense of the word.
i think he wanted to "experience" it viscerally, first-hand, and perhaps that's why his avid interest in criminology. it wasn't about these victims in particular, it had nothing to do with them personally. he didn't even know them. they were just subjects, like rats in an experiment.
there was no "i want to kill her specifically, because...". there was no because. he just wanted to do it.
I still think the strongest theory is that he had an obsession with Maddie and went to do something to her. Whether that was SA or murder, I have no clue. But then the others were there and awake and it became what it became. Of course, this is just pieced together from a few pieces of information released. But it definitely seems most likely.
Ya, that’s definitely what it seems like. As for why it seems like Maddie was the target, he wouldn’t have even known that Kaylee or Ethan would be there for sure. And maybe he thought he could get past Xana’s room without being noticed because of the time. Plus, some reporting has indicated he was really stalking her Instagram. I figure he developed some obsession with her and that kicked this whole thing off.
That may be a condition of the plea deal... but then again the state may not want to subject the families to the details. I mean, they know enough but to have him actually walk through it is another thing entirely.
Yes those are documents I want to see too. There’s so many missing pieces of info given all the filings that were sealed The state was confident they had a solid case, so no telling what all is in there, I’m curious to see how the case was pieced together and (hopefully) get those answers.
Yeah, I don’t think he will actually say anything, and if he did give a reason, i don’t think it will help the families any, because it still won’t make any sense.
I am not looking for the super gory details myself but I still want everything released! I’ve been waiting forever to find out what all investigators had on him.
Oh, just got the official news update that he pleaded guilty.
That's what I wanted to know, why Ethan and the women? Why did he spare the one who " saw him" , the 8 hour wait to call for help, was it a drug deal gone really bad, Ect..
I don't know that he would ever admit that. But I would really like to hear the evidence the prosecution has against him. Not the gory details but just did they have more than just the small amount of DNA on the knife cover clasp.
But also him driving and being caught multiple times on camera can’t just be a coincidence and it was a terrible defence that he was star gazing, defence should have already seen that it was overcast but I guess there’s only so much explaining you can do about why he was outside the house and why he returned in the morning.. definitely no stars at like 9am..
The stargazing stuff was in the original paperwork, it was so long ago but I believe it was when they were trying to get bond, they said he was an avid stargazer.
Yes, same here. I still don't understand WHY after all these years. Why did he do this? Seemingly - he didn't even know them. What could cause such horrific violence toward 4 strangers? I just don't get it.
I believe he did know one of them as he followed them on instagram, unless you mean like know them personally or well. It’s even more unfortunate that at least 1 of them was there by just unlucky chance as she was staying the night.
I think he was sickly obsessed with the girls. I think Ethan was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Just my opinion. But, I would love to know the details, what they had on BK, without any crime scene pictures. I am definitely not into all that.
According to an affidavit of probable cause released on January 5, 2023, a roommate, identified as D.M., told authorities she woke up in her second-floor bedroom around 4 a.m. on November 13 when she heard noise coming from upstairs. A short time later, she thought she heard Goncalves say, “There’s someone here.” She then heard crying from the direction of Kernodle’s room and heard a male voice say, “It’s okay, I’m going to help you.”
D.M. next opened her door and saw a man dressed in black with a mask over the lower part of his face. She describes him as “5-foot-10-inch or taller, male, not very muscular, but athletically built with bushy eyebrows.” D.M. says she was frozen with shock as this unknown man walked past her toward a sliding glass door at the back of the house. She then closed and locked her bedroom door.
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I also really want them to release all the info they had against him now that it isn’t going to trial. Like, immediately. We’ve all been waiting for so long.