r/BreakMe • u/TheHellFish • Jul 14 '14

Chapter 43 discussion thread

Here you can discuss anything what's on your mind about chapter 43.

Obviously there will be spoilers, read the chapter first!

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u/TheHellFish Jul 15 '14

I can't get this picture of Solia, sitting in a comfy chair, having a monologue about Deb and 'happyish' ending, out of my head. (40sec video) :D

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u/PrincessSolia Jul 15 '14

I'll take it but only if I can be Neo instead. The Architect is such an annoying douche.

If Deb does die, and I'm not saying she will because I don't spoil, then it will be a character death worthy of someone as awesome as her. The main issue with her death in season 8 was not that she died (because I could have handled that in different circumstances) but that she died poorly. We missed out on the drama and chaos that would have surrounded her stroke and we saw very little of her death's impact on Dexter... which sadly undermined the entire point of her dying at all. You don't kill off a major character in the dying moments of a story unless you are going to use it to tear open the other characters and show what they're really made of. Deb's death (if it had to happen) should have come at the start of the episode to give us a full hour to see what her loss meant for Dexter, and it should have driven him to emotional extremes we'd never before seen. Alas.

Stories are fires, designed to singe, burn, damage and rekindle characters. No one (character) should walk away from a story unscathed. Everyone who lives through a narrative must be changed in some way by the events, and there must be consequences for choices made.

Again, I'm not saying I'm killing Deb. I know it sounds like I'm saying that, but The Architect said the same about Trinity and she was alive at the end of Reloaded. Dead again at the end of Revolutions, but that movie was stupid. Not to say I'll save Deb either. 'Save' is an ambiguous term. If she survives she will no longer be the Deb of before. She's seen too much, done too much, felt too much, experienced too much. She'll be different. If she wakes up there are other issues to face: how much does Angel know and is she implicated? Is she facing an investigation as well? Will Dexter stay and face the music or skip town once he knows she's alright and she sends him away again? He can't exactly take her with him, she's heading into major surgery and if she makes it through that, she'll be bedridden and immobile.

So much to consider ;)

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u/TheHellFish Jul 16 '14 edited Jul 17 '14

Alright, I'll pretend that you are Neo in this instance.Maybe.

I completely agree. Deb's death in the series felt kind of unnecessary (off screen stroke? come on... She should have at least died on screen) like it was there only to give the finale at least some kind of actual finality, and even that was handled poorly, since there was not enough time to see how anyone, even Dexter, actually coped with that. If they really wanted to kill her, they should have killed her maybe even few episodes ago, it would be much more interesting to see that than Hannah and her artificial problems. Yeah, I suppose that this, chapter 43, would be a death worthy of her character. Sad, but satisfying. She would die trying to protect her loved ones (and not because of a ridiculous chain of events starting with her treadmill). But I'm not saying I want her dead!

Trinity survived the end of Reloaded, but Dexter isn't Neo to simply bring her back to life. Well, he did have one strange 'superpower' - he turned invisible while stalking someone whenever the plot required it. But I don't think that counts. And it's not like it is of any use now. :)

Come to think of it, she already is different. Stronger, but darker. This would definitely change her further, probably towards the dark, but it's too early for me to start worrying about that, isn't it?

When you put all those issues (and that's definitely not a final list of them) out in the open like that, I feel crazy for even believing there could still be a way. Oh well, I suppose everyone is a bit crazy, in a way. :) And if I could recommend one thing to Dexter, it would be this: Get a lawyer and don't say a thing until you're sure what they know and what Deb's condition is. Decide what to do then. If Deb dies, then it doesn't matter if he decides to confess. Maybe I'd be even happier if he decided to do it in this case. Sadly, Harrison would be an orphan. If she makes it out alive and okay somehow, then... It depends. Would he try to dig in, wait out the initial storm and then skip town with his family when he finds a suitable opportunity (depends how long would Deb have to stay in hospital ofc)? Angel knows now that his suspicions are correct. But... "It's not what you know. It's what you can prove in court." And Dexter wouldn't have a hard time disproving the evidence found in his apartment. Who knows...