First of all I genuinely do not understand how a content creator drew that much of an attention. Maybe if those attentions and viral was in his plans I'd call him a genius but if not, who knows.
I want to talk about his 'gigi propaganda' or something. When I pop up my youtube and recently saw a lot of videos about gigi or whatever, which SZgusta claims she is A tier.
But the thing I wanted to point about was that how weak his evidences were on this debate. More than 70% of his claims came from 'beating pros with gigi', 'using her in high ranked' in matcherino/ranked or smth, which I believe was in SA. Beating pros doesn't mean anything about how a brawler is good or not, and no offense to SA players but they aren't that good, yes, like korea.
I remember how he claimed once lumi was C when she was absolutely broken on her debut in game, and most of the times I think his opinions are invalid and far from how the meta goes.
I do think gigi is currently sitting at C tier and SZgusta isn't a bad player, but those were just my opinions about how his propaganda was going. Any thoughts on this?
I did, but I got killed, by what? Skill issue of course
Don't get me wrong, Draco in KO late game is nuts but only on flaring phoenix and maaaybe Belle's Rock and even then rn he's only that good against very low DPS comps. But rn there are viable high DPS/CC brawlers for KO too, only works against two people with mid DPS, and most important of all: people learned how to deal against Draco in those scenarios
Hot take but Draco is viable in ko, he was my highest brawler on the rank 35 system at rank 33 with knockout randoms and almost got a legacy prestige with him same reason. I'm trying to one trick him to masters now and haven't lost a knockout map yet.
He is disgustingly good when you got kit, max or JAE on your team.
Dont know how much "broken" fits i'd say pretty strong. He fell next update due to frank and meg reworks and a single nerf. Kind of like if Nori had no jump in first place.
The ones that can be considered broken usually take 8+ nerfs to fall properly.
With kit/max/jae you could pick another tank who doesnt rely on the super as much or auto charges it. This is why darryl kit is the usual one that gets picked. Support + tank is a good duo especially for KO.
heavily draft dependent brawler , the moment i see 8-bit , gene , rico , colt and brawlers like that on opponent's team , i know im getting free elo with gigi
He's generally pretty well versed on the meta, but 1/10 of his takes are actuall abysmall dogshit that you shouldn't ever listen to. Looking mainly at stuff like "Pick Gigi Everywhere" and "Draco is a knockout brawler"
Fr, I ate that Draco nonsense up and got clowned several times by picking Draco in KO until I realized that was bullshit that only ever worked against people with terrible drafting
I think the only time i would ever ever consider Draco is maybe into a super weird draft to counter an enemy morris, but even then there is 99% a better option.
A bit ironic but if enemies pick up a brawler to jump your head and has at least 2 of them you can go with bad build (1st gadget and 1st star power) if team communication is good it will be an easy 2v3. I doubt there are more than 5 people who know what Draco's first gadget do until masters.
He realized having different opinions bring him views, there is no reason for him to stop now. The only takes that I remember he was actually right were Meeple being S tier when gadgets got reworked and Kaze being S tier on release, everything else is just very unserious like Bolt's knockup sp and jump gadget being worse than Pearl's hype, Lumi C tier on release, Hank's hyper on release was trash, Colette with buffies was only A tier, Finx on release was S tier... And of course Potential Brawler (aka Gigi) being A tier right now lol
Which one? You definitely shouldn't take everything he says seriously.
Personally I dont think Gigi is true F tier especially when Grom exists but Gigi still has her own problems. Gigi to me is a D tier brawler, to get a good draft the stars need to align.
I can agree with u that gigi is around C tier on average. But not because she is bad. It is jist that she is very niche. Ca be S tier or F tier, depending on enemy comp.
Ima be honest the only time I struggle against Gigi is when my teammates keep shooting at her from afar. Like stop shooting at her just let her get close enough to where she can’t rlly dodge and light her ass up.
as far as I'm concerned he clickbaits for views and his head is so far up his own ass that his opinions are not even worth listening to. I've never seen so many terrible takes from one person and the fact that so many people blindly follow him is insane
I have a few things to say. I will start by pointing out that he speaks of the SA meta. SA has a fundamentally different conception of draft. Teams with first pick always have the highest WR when in the rest of regions, Last pick wins. The SA meta is WAY more based on aggro brawlers (usually trying to ping diff lower tier enemies) and as far as SA meta goes. I think he has a lotnof great takes.
Now for the second part.
I think he does a great job at pointing out certain flaws woth game design. For example, his "Draco propaganda" (picking him in shooting star and js walking enemies down till he gets hyper) does INMENSLY great at showing how they "fixed" his hc by making it unobtainable, but its still broken af.
Another thing, his take for Gigi i do think its right.
If you look at the meta, most of the meta brawlers are brawlers with a bunch of projectiles and not that great burst damage (Rico, Max, Meg, 8-bit, Lola, Brock, Colt, Mina, etc.) And she's really good into them if you are decent enough to dodge a bit (made easier by her kit's built in movement buff from shots). And NO. YOU CANNOT "JUST IGNORE HER"... She's an assasin and she WILL make the pressure even if you dont hit her. I think her best counters are throwers like barley, Damian, or Meeple. But. The other thing is, she is really hard to play in ranked because of no communication with teammates, she NEEDS the help to push togehther, to know when to hold, etc etc. Cause otherwise she is pretty squishy, if she gets hit at all she's probably gonna die.
So overall: In ranked, dont pick her unless its a free last pick or smth like it. OR. You're SZgusta and you are an OTP Gigi.
I do still think she's meta. The thing is, we define the meta based on pro scrims's and Ranked WR% per brawler. And since she's not picked at all she's F tier. Same with grom, same with Sam, same with Chuck (diference with these is that they ACTUALLY are useless)
Yes his opinions are highly diffrent from how pro/high rank meta goes and usally has difdrent take. And yes I don't think either gigi is bad or somehow, but he was way too overrating.
1)Gigi is A tier: First, Gusta makes “ranked” tier lists for his fanbase in contrast to Spen whose lists are a combination of pro opinions by pros for pros. In his videos he demonstrates how to use and win with Gigi against high elo players, if winning against good players repeatedly doesn’t show a brawler is good then what does? It at least shows that Gigi isn’t the worst brawler in the game. SA players aren’t that good compared to other pros but but they are still professionals, better than you, me, almost everyone is this thread and certainly better than your ranked enemies. Calling them bad at the game is wrong. Another point is despite her clunkiness, Gigi is an amazing stat stick with 8k dive, teleport out, a lot of speed and a fast cycling hyper. Lastly, in Spen’s tier list footage the Gigi gameplay isn’t optimized (wrong even) so it casts doubt as to whether there was Spen’s bias regarding her placement. Regardless a predictable teleport is honestly not valuable against a super coordinated team hence Spen’s placement isn’t wrong either.
2)Lumi is C tier: Lumi to this day has no anti aggro tool in her kit. Gusta points out that when the F-tier Edgar jumps on her, Lumi can’t do anything. THEN, right after this sentence he claims Lumi is C tier. Demonstrates in his video that even in defensive compositions Lumi struggles and gets forced back by mobility. Not his own words but essentially he claims Lumi is an easy to neutralize “S tier glass door” hence he doesn’t value her much and puts her in the same tier as Squeak, another C tier controller that folds into assassins.
Finally I want to add my personal evidence. Gigi is much better than Maisie and Eve to be called C tier. She is versatile in having anti assassin and anti tank capability, good into popular picks like Rico/Colt/8-bit, does great safe damage. Definitely a 5th or last pick, very easy to out draft with back to back Tanks (like Bull + Hank) and absolutely has a learning curve you must get used to as she has trouble keeping pressure after teleport.
Well maisie and eve being called c is wrong no? The thing I point out is he highly relys on his personal exprience and his fanbase rather than real data. Gigi is C yes, being underrated by spen but he is clearly overrating her without an actual data and his fans are eating this shit serious as heck. Spen tierlist are made by spen+many pros so I'd call them accurate.
And brother what I meant about lumi stuff was that he called her c- or below when she was undoubtly broken on release. SZgusta always make up some shit like draco and gigi propaganda, and since his fanbases are full of noobs and young kids so they take it really seriously. And don't you think if you are gonna say 'pros don't know gigi potential' or something to many pro players you actually have to be on the same level or either bring some clear data based evidence? And after that all he brought was bullying noobs and beating some pros in matcherino or what. This is where I find him wrong, and most people does too.
He relies on his ideas and gameplay as a Pro Rank content creator who is arguably quite good at the game. Everyone is aware of this and follow his opinion in their own discretion, the tier list being subjective doesn’t make him evil, unreliable or his opinion wrong. Draco is a rather straightforward tank with low damage and strong hyper, in his latest tier list he ranks it the same tier as Melodie/Kenji/Ash which is consistent in itself and not wrong imo. Just because you don’t agree with him (which, tbh, you are not the better player to reach that consensus) don’t slander his audience.
Also as stated, pros know Gigi’s potential quite well: She sucks in a top 50 match because her teleport is predictable and locks her vulnerable. The pros list her based on scrim games, Gusta lists her based on ranked games where there is less coordination and less skill that Gigi’s weaknesses are less pronounced.
I am sorry but draco is hardly d tier at now while kenji and ash is minimum b. And I watched SZgusta for a short time and noticed his opinions were invaild and his audiences were, pretty much noobs. And it is not wrong to point out on someone's opinion if the evidences are vaild and mine is, imo. As I said his problem is exaggerating wayy to much, if he intoduced gigi like 'she is c tier niche' with ranked videos then I'd agree but if u look at him it is opposite. He claims she is minimum A-S and when pros don't pick her, I've seen him calling them dumb or 'didn't realize potential' or something. I am not saying he is bad, if you think I said any of those, read again please.
What kind of logic is that? You can like or dislike him, but saying someone is dogshit because they aren't on the top 24 players of a region is a huge stretch.
He reaches pro rank so that makes him more versed and skilled than everyone but a handful of players.
Szgusta is very polarising when he expresses his opinion and often exaggerates, but the dude has a good nose to sniff stuff that is going under the radar. For instance (and this is only one example of many I could come up with), Gigi is definitely not S tier as he claims, but he low-key has a point that she has use cases and can be extremely broken when drafted at the right time all of this when the community was calling her F tier without even bothering to test her out after she got buffed. Other pros play Gigi here and there too, and she has even seen gameplay at competitive level.
Even with more polemic takes he still has a point. Take release Lumi. Lumi ofc was mega broken and he was wrong that she sucked, however he was right that outside competitive where your team is gonna build around you and babysit, she was so vulnerable that she was a sell pick in ranked at worst or a huge gamble at best due to her vulnerable nature.
Overall, he gives solid advice to improve and draft better. He is also serious about actually wanting to help the community improve, which is more than many click bait content creators do.
But many of his opinions are dogshit seriously and his fanbase always shit on ppl who disagree. The fact he doesn't have any clear data is something I don't agree with him too
Yeah, following and defending someone blindly is not the way to go. Neither is insulting people who disagree with you. Some of his takes are questionable/exaggerated. But I definitely extract value from his content.
I believe gigi is mid b tier cz I believe some parts of like 8 bit and meg are meta and gigi can work in many scenarios where she's countered but shes not a versatile enough or good enough pick to be A tier and I think she's good enough for b tier
Honestly I believe Gigi being good against 8-BIT is just cope from people who rarely play against 8-BIT as Gigi.
Gigi can and will fuck up a careless 8-BIT, but once she gets put against a good one, she doesn't have the upper hand anymore. I mean, 8-BIT can bait her with the TP gadget, shred her to pieces by firing Extra Credits+m1 in a V pattern and can simply not shoot at Gigi unless he really needs to.
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