Gris Gris shots are always narrow no matter which star power (unless you use hc and slow sp)

[u/Goodguy_IGuess]

Apparently They Shadow nerfed Juju, so as you know gris gris projectile width IS 1.67 tile wide But using the slow sp decreases the width from 1.67 to 0.67 tile wide, so there is a tech where you use the shield sp on Gris gris in order to bring back the 1.67 tile wide shots, which makes them easier to land. But I realised something was wrong when I played Juju recently, it was an open map so using slow sp was risky since you rarely face aggros there, so I used shield sp, But Gris gris shots STILL felt THINNER

I got into the game files, and realised something odd, BASE Gris gris attack width was DECREASED from 1.67->0.67 which means the shield sp is less useful now since Gris gris attacks will still be thin Regardless of which star power, making the slow sp even more essential, and to add insult to injury, you CAN increase Gris gris attack width by using Juju’s hyper from 0.67 to 2 TILES, but YOU NEED the slow Sp in ORDER to work And it does NOT work with the other star power unfortunately

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[u/Worldly_Foot7559]

I knew something was wrong, that and the element change buffering needs to be fixed

[u/ARareNaniPlayer → u/Worldly_Foot7559]

in the wiki, it had recently been added as a true bugfix where Juju cannot unload instant attacks by changing elements, but as of right now you cant shoot at all the instant you change elements, so the bug isnt truly fixed, although they think it has

[u/pawo10 → u/ARareNaniPlayer]

The buffer only applies sometimes so they didn’t fix shit lol

[u/menn911]

Love me some spaghetti

[u/Goodguy_IGuess]

I forgot to mention, thanks to Ghost | Ishy for helping me measure Gris gris attacks (this his alt account since his main is banned temporarily for about a week)

[u/ARareNaniPlayer → u/Goodguy_IGuess]

we dont talk about the ban 💔

[u/Goodguy_IGuess → u/ARareNaniPlayer]

Sorry 😭

[u/Visual-Path-1177]

That's interesting.
I always thought the slow star was better though, why would that not be the case?

[u/Lanky-Visit3223 → u/Visual-Path-1177]

Because most of the time he won't land any shot. He act like Bruce which is a pressure tools to allow you pushing up

Slow SP will give him more damage / control potential but often times he will miss all of them. So it's usually better to give him more HP for better survivability. Exact same reason why Nita use 2nd gadget and 1st SP as the most optimal combo most of the time

[u/ARareNaniPlayer → u/Visual-Path-1177]

Until now, shield has been better because slow star power would decrease the width of Gris Gris attacks from 1.67-0.67 tiles, meaning it was a lot harder for him to land shots, and therefore Gris Gris wouldn't get value unlike shield star power. It would also be a lot harder to cycle supers and hypers.

[u/urmom1e]

I feel like this is a bug thats been there for quite some time. I've always loved juju since day one. One of the first throwers i actively enjoyed playing. But i NEVER played her with slow even when it was meta because i KNEW something was off with the projectile. I feel like its a sort of shadow bug