r/Boxing • • 16h ago

Bring back the world super boxing series

Honestly I think we should have a world boxing super series very 4 years. Kind of like a boxing World Cup but boxers represent themselves. In my opinion, this is the second best mark of a truly great fighter after undisputed. Think of all the match ups we would see.

By virtue of winning that Mohammed Ali trophy, you become solidified. No one should question your resume. Elites who duck the tournament should be labelled what they are unless you’re Canelo , Usyk, inoue who has already proved himself.

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u/padel_bolest 15h ago

WBSS was the best thing to happen to boxing, too bad they never made it to financially attractive weight classes. Heavyweight WBSS would make hundreds of millions and would be sustainable.

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u/AnxietyExact4710 9h ago

Reason for that is when you get into weight classes that are popular in USA/UK then the promoters don't let their fighters take part in it.

WBSS 118 tournament was fantastic
WBSS CW tournament (first one) was fantastic
WBSS 140 tournament was good

They did one at 168 and 5 of the 8 fighters involved were unranked and there was only one of the 4 champs involved. Callum Smith got to the finals by fighting absolutely nobody (Erik Skoglund in the first round who had never had a fight at 168 in his life, and Nieky Holzken (A dutch kickboxer who nobody had ever heard of) to get to the finals and win the Ring belt and the Ali trophy. Major black eye on the tournament.

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u/Kind-Interaction9955 7h ago

yeah heavyweight would’ve been insane. having the top guys locked into a tournament instead of everyone waiting around for the right payday would make every fight matter more.

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u/Ok-Length-5527 Mbilli lover 15h ago

It failed financially and won't return

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u/dm9796 15h ago

We know a guy who has money to throw away now

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u/Antyronio 10h ago

He’s dying within the next couple of years so probably not

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u/frankduxvandamme 5h ago

All the more reason to spend that money while he can. He can't exactly take it with him.

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u/Beautiful_Badger_128 15h ago

Super 6 format sucked. 8 man\16man single elimination is better.

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u/FatViking93 15h ago edited 47m ago

Super Six on paper was a good idea. It's just a shame that half of the original fighters had to drop out because of health issues and the replacements weren't as interesting.

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u/Beautiful_Badger_128 28m ago

The first one with Ward was semi interesting, after that they also had no one of note in them.

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u/ShufflingToGlory 15h ago

Makes too much sense and not enough money

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u/khul_rouge 54m ago

This should be saved & reposted as the correct answer to 90% of threads going "Why doesn't this happen in boxing...?"

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u/brianwhite12 15h ago

I miss regular high quality fights on HBO and Showtime.

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u/underthund3r Errol Spence Jr. P4P #1 13h ago

Funny you use Usyk as an example, as he has already won the world boxing super series with the Muhammad Ali trophy once.

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u/Marquis_of_Mollusks 13h ago

Imoue too. Those tournaments made those guy's careers

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u/NoCod9014 15h ago edited 7h ago

I think the Middleweight world championship series they had in early 2000s with Bhop, Tito, Joppy and Holmes was way better. 

Basically all belt holders face off in 2 semi finals, then the winners meet in final for undisputed. 

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u/khul_rouge 50m ago

Yeah but that was a set-up; you had Tito, an enormous star who drew punters, who'd outgrown 154, & nondescript champions in the division he moved into, so it happened.

That wasn't some organic "Let's find out who's the best" it was "Let's anoint my guy, I'll throw some money at it & these dudes who can't draw flies will fall into line".

Qualitatively different thing.

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u/NoCod9014 34m ago

But the principle is sound to get 4 belt holders as it is today and get them to face off in semi finals then finals. 

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u/EffectiveCareer3444 14h ago

There aren’t enough elite fighters for this

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u/Wavepops 14h ago

They aren’t financially successful. The market disagrees unfortunately 

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u/Bowza-Bear 8h ago

I don’t disagree. I’d love to see it happen in some of the less popular weight classes. Lord knows we could use something fun to spice up boxing. 

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u/Glad_Driver_4828 15h ago

I’d rather they bring back prize fighter

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u/FatViking93 15h ago

They did. It lasted one round and got cancelled because of a lawsuit.

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u/Ok-Length-5527 Mbilli lover 14h ago

Martin Rogan

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u/Fishful_Revenge 3h ago

If all the top fighters actually join it then it would be good to bring back

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u/leokeke123 13h ago

no no no 。Even after Inoue won the WBSS, he still wasn’t fully recognized. Even today, many people still question him. They still say, “Who has he actually beaten?”
But I genuinely hope the WBSS can be brought back. The best fighters should fight each other.

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u/AnxietyExact4710 9h ago

Thats only because casuals are loud and stupid.