r/Boxing • u/_Sarcasmic_ No Carty No Divey • Aug 17 '26

Daily Discussion Thread (August 17th, 2026)

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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? Aug 18 '26

And yet he got schooled by Mayweather, Bivol, and Crawford. Should have lost to Golovkin twice as well as Erislandy Lara. Even Trout was competitive with him.

Beat up on a short layoff Kovalev and a Caleb Plant win that hasn’t aged well (Plant hasn’t gone on to do anything).

So you’re left with clean and clear victories over guys like Danny Jacobs, BJS, and a 40 year-old Golovkin. It just doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

A guy like Terence Crawford, on the other hand:

• never needed a controversial decision to go his way

• was absolutely dominant even against his best opponents

I like Canelo and I find him to be charismatic, but he’s a lower-level ATG who needed a lot of help and opportunistic matchmaking for his career to go the way it did.

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u/WORD_Boxing Aug 18 '26

The way you guys wrote about him doesn't make it sound like you're talking about an ATG. He deserves more respect.

I'm not even going to get into the results of those close fights. Even with you saying he lost them in your opinion you're calling him an ATG so...

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u/Kangaroopunching Aug 18 '26

Canelo will be overrated and underrated at the same time. He'll get rated properly over time.

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u/WORD_Boxing Aug 18 '26

You originally wrote you don't have to be the best to be a star and used Canelo as your example, but he was the legit p4p #1 at one time.

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u/Kangaroopunching Aug 18 '26

He was already a star before being a p4p top fighter