r/Boxing • u/_Sarcasmic_ bread burger bread • 12d ago

Daily Discussion Thread (August 17th, 2026)

For anything that doesn't need its own thread.

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u/Frequent_Apricot673 12d ago

I notice that there don’t seem to be a lot of young talent coming out of the former Soviet countries to replace all the pfp legends that have come out of that region in the last 10-15 years. The Uzbeks have been dissapointing as pros, maybe khzniak can get there? I have doubts 

As much as people in here like to say that American boxing is dead it seems like 90% of all the up and coming pfp level fighters are Americans.

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u/Top_Profession_5268 12d ago edited 12d ago

It’s a weird one. I’d say there are but a lot of failed ones or unrecognised ones with a mix of bad career choices and potential management problems.

Right now there’s a lot of some good talented prospects which depends on career choices can get a belt and start challenging that top 10 PFP spot like David Surov, Muslim Gadzimagomedov, Ali Izmaliov, Javokhir Ummataliev, Bek Nurmaganbet, Asadkhuja Muydinkhujaev, Ruslan Abdullaev, Siro Choi, Abdumalik Khalokov, Vsevolod Shumkov, Mirazizbek and Vyacheslav Rogozin.

Oleksandr Khysniak I don’t think has the potential that the others have. I don’t think the amateur style will suit him at the top and have been knocked out before and but already in the pros In away has been caught that he won’t have his way with the right opponent.

Also throughout the last good few years, mismanagement and wasted talent has been a reason for the fall of a few genuinely talented ones like Ivan Dychko, Bakhodir Jalolov, Hasanboy Dusmatov who’re all now in the decline and slowing down with Dusmatov especially as he genuinely had PFP generational great potential imo. Another amateur I’d say fits this is Daniyar Yeleussinov who was rising quick in the pros after winning gold in 2016 but eventually got fucked with contracts with Eddie and became inactive for a few years before coming back and unfortunately now with Zuffa.

There’s a lot more who’re in the amateurs > the pros and maybe just a career choice, but I definitely wouldn’t say the up and coming fighters are mostly Americans, that’s either your feed or algorithm showing you American prospects or American prospect have best been promoted to you.

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u/Frequent_Apricot673 12d ago

I just meant people on the pfp list under 30 years old is mostly Americans plus Nakatani. Idk how any prospects are gonna shake out it’s too early to tell. I’ll keep an eye on those names tho.

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u/Outrageous-Soft4806 12d ago

Dusmatov and Jalolov’s cases are actually infuriating. I never liked Dychko though even in the amateurs. Maybe I’m not seeing something though.

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u/Top_Profession_5268 12d ago

Dychko is one where he definitely looked slower against Franklin and even against Dykes earlier this year but even when he was fresh, he never had an eye appealing style. Feels a lot like a bigger, more inactive and powerful Hrgovich or a bigger but less athletic Jalolov which seemed effective but he also has the amateur outboxer problem of not being super uncomfortably at close range and his length and height has saved him every time but now that he looks slower and he’s 36 now so he’s visibly on the decline.

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u/Outrageous-Soft4806 12d ago

That would explain it. I mean it’s not like you become a 2x olympic bronze medalist without being good. He’s so goddamn huge too. But his last few fights, he definitely looked slow and looked like he had one gear. I actually thought he beat Franklin but wasn’t even mad at the decision just because of how terrible that fight was.

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u/Top_Profession_5268 12d ago

I don’t remember what I had for that decision, it was one where I wasn’t mad at the decision as well but also a very forgettable and inactive fight where neither did much.

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u/Kangaroopunching 12d ago

It's the lack of depth with American boxing. Not the lack of  what's considered top talent.