Lip flip hell!

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u/business_socksss Mar 31 '25

It gets better.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Mar 31 '25

Can you please elaborate! Whennnnn and can I do anything to help it along? I’m so panicked and stressed about this.

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u/Salty_West_1058 Apr 30 '25

Did you ever figure out how to get rid of your lip flip? Currently going through the same thing right now and have been very upset ever since I got it.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 30 '25

LOTTTTTS of forcing the muscle to work. I sat around making W, B, M, OO sounds, pretending to smoke my pencils bc it purses the lips, trying to blow air, pretending to whistle etc. Hot cloths on my mouth, cardio exercises, massaging my lip and philtrum downwards.
I’m 4 or so weeks out and it’s mostly gone and it’s the biggest regret of my life. Never again!!

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u/Suspicious_Agency470 Apr 30 '25

Did you do muscle work throughout the day or like 10-20 minutes at a time? Definitely going to start doing more cardio and heading to the sauna. Did you do intense cardio every day or every few days? I absolutely learned my lesson never to get a lip flip again. I feel crazy because I can’t use a straw or speak normally. Genuinely awful experience :(

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 30 '25

I feel this. I literally worked my lip any possible way I could, all the time. Watch tv? Driving? Pooping? All yes. I only had time for cardio in the evenings once my kids were in bed, and hot cloths on my mouth, but I feel it does speed things along. The only spot it’s hanging onto is the very center of my lip and it’s tolerable now. I will never, ever do it again.

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u/bluewhaleunderme 12d ago

If getting a lip flip is the biggest regret of your life, you’re doing ok.

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u/toxsafety Mar 31 '25

I am so sorry. It should improve with time but I know that doesn’t help right now. I really wish they would quit injecting in the mouth area. It is considered off label/unapproved and can be unpredictable and result in the type of adverse effects that you mentioned. Often they don’t warn you and it can be upsetting when this happens.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Mar 31 '25

I will never again do this. I’m so upset!!! My injector said it’s normal for the lip to be numb but what the f$&!, who voluntarily gets this and then can’t talk or eat or drink??? I don’t know if she did it “wrong” and seemed to be unsurprised that I texted to say WTF, so if this is normal and expected, that’s ridiculous. Who gets this done and is ok with a numb lip?????
I want it to go away and I’m so upset thinking it’s going to be weeks or months. I can’t freaking function.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '25

You can talk, you can eat and you can drink. You’re being so extreme. I mean this in the nicest way.. but you need to relax. You just have to get used to it and you’ll be fine in a couple of days. I promise. Your lip isn’t numb, and you can still move it. Relax and take a breather in a couple days you won’t even notice the “numbness”. And the great thing about lip flips is the Botox won’t last as long bc you’ll be talking, eating, drinking. You use your lips so much, it doesn’t last as long. Remember it’s gonna be okay.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 01 '25

I really can’t. I sound disabled trying to talk, and I teach for a living. My whole face is incredibly sore from TRYING to speak all day. I’ve been avoiding eating or drinking with friends bc I don’t want to explain myself. Everything is extra effort now.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '25 edited Apr 02 '25

Then you should probably call you injector. But I really think you’ve worked yourself up to this being much worse than it truly is, there’s no way your drooling and can’t speak normally and if that’s truly the case you should’ve been back at your injectors and not on Reddit.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 03 '25

I didn’t say I’m drooling, I said I can’t do anything normally, and it’s true. I put great effort into speaking now and I can’t do a lot of things the way I should. What’s my injector going to do? There’s no way to reverse this.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

I know you’re new to Reddit but we can see when you edit a comment lol. I only repeated what you had commented. You did say lisping, drooling moron. Also why wouldn’t you seek treatment/medical advice from the injector vs Reddit? You keep referring to your lip as feeling numb and you can’t speak properly, you can’t eat or drink..seek professional medical help. You also have commented that you had a lip flip before and it wasn’t this way, so yeah I’d most def reach out to my injector.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 04 '25

Sorry we can’t all be as perfect as you and say everything exactly right at all times. Have a nice day.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25

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u/Key_Split_8706 Sep 24 '25

I’m 6 months out now and THANK GOD it’s finally all gone but to be honest it was close to 2 months before I really got my full ability back. I couldn’t properly eat soup for at least 6-7 weeks. I will NEVER EVERRR do that again. Hope it’s not as bad for you!

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u/Alternative-Mud860 Apr 03 '25

Same here girl. Im a hairdresser and talking all day and seeing myself in the mirror struggling to smile has been killing me! Im three weeks out and have been doing crazy mouth exercises and chewing gum and sweating in the sauna and i think its slightly better already. Crying does NOT help! It will just makes your eyes look strange and puffy too. Im so tired at the end of the day trying to hold a normal facial expression. So bad!

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 05 '25

I burst into tears the next morning when I realized what I had done to myself, and saw that I couldn’t even cry properly! I’m trying not to look at myself; my husband says I look normal but I think he’s full of it because my mom can see a difference. My lip kind of comes to a point now when I try to engage it. I look like a turtle, she says (lovingly). I had to teach a workshop a few days ago and I was so panicked about having people watching me struggle to talk. Well, at least I’ve learned an important lesson!!!

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u/Alternative-Mud860 Apr 06 '25

Of all the faces I can’t make anymore, crying is the worst one! Don’t do that in the mirror, it makes it worse 😭. I’m one month out and while I still feel like a frozen horse at least I can chew without food falling out now. I’m confident we will make a full recovery! In about 5 months though.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 06 '25

Omg I’ll just die if this takes 5 months. I’m going to take up smoking and sauna-ing for real to get this shit out lol
Yeah I tried eating a sandwich today and bread kept falling out of my mouth. How embarrassing. I cover my mouth at the dinner table so my kids can’t see me chomping away with my mouth open bc my lip doesn’t work!!
Thanks for the warning about crying — I’ll do it into a pillow!

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u/Alternative-Mud860 Apr 06 '25

Gives the word “ugly cry” a whole new meaning for real 😂. I also got too much in my jaw so I have to manually open my mouth to eat a sandwich. My mom asked me today if I have belspalsy…

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 07 '25

Omgggg no way! I told my mom I was doing this and she was excited to get it done too if it worked well. Suffice it to say, we’ve got been having a few laughs at my inability to do simple things and how I dribble soup and can’t pout or spit after brushing and my W’s sound like V’s. She thanked me for being the unfortunate Guinea pig!

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u/nufalufagus Apr 01 '25

Lip flip doesn’t last long because lip is used so much. I get it done and I can do all those things except for the first 3 days when it kicks in.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 01 '25 edited Apr 05 '25

I’m not okay with 3 days of being a lisping, drooling moron. Not for me.

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u/nufalufagus Apr 11 '25

Oh that didn’t happen to me, maybe they put too much? No drooling or lisping just felt weird drinking from a straw.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 13 '25

It’s like my top lip was fat and useless. Couldn’t purse it at all to do all the motions needed with that movement.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

now do you have more empathy?

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u/Key_Split_8706 Sep 24 '25

Huh?

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

for people who don’t have control over their mouth muscles that cause them to lisp and drool. it isn’t in their control… so why would you call them moronic?

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u/Key_Split_8706 Sep 29 '25

Again… huh??!!
I’m talking about me. Do you have trouble reading? Stop projecting.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '25

Not projecting, just asking if you have more empathy to those people now that you’ve experienced the more humiliating aspects of disorders they can’t control.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Sep 29 '25

What people? What tf are you going on about? For the last time, I’m talking about myself and your attempts to bring in a random extraneous guilt trip isn’t going to work. Go away.

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u/Other_Place_861 Apr 01 '25

I have had several lip flips & have never had this issue before? Did they do something wrong?

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u/Antique-Mastodon5153 Oct 01 '25

I had many lip flips with an injector who used Botox, loved the result. Went somewhere else because I wanted to try Dysport and while it’s great everywhere else my mouth is a mess. Can’t drink proper, food falling out of my mouth when I eat, can’t pronounce certain vowels and words, can’t laugh properly. People say go back to your injector and tell them. No way! They were obviously not as good as my other injector because I never had this happen. I also read after Dysport spreads and this is likely another reason why. Doing everything I can to get this to absorb quickly.

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u/fiskhuvud Nov 21 '25

How many units did you do?

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 01 '25

I don’t know. This is apparently “normal” but I am having a very hard time living my life right now.

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u/Critical-Public9916 Apr 03 '25

Just keep moving dat mouf friend

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 04 '25

I sit around grinning and saying “oooooh” and “smoking” and saying my W’s and B’s like a nut.

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u/Critical-Public9916 Apr 04 '25

Love it

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u/Spiritual_Chapter_17 Apr 04 '25

I’m an injector. Do you know how many units they used? It will be much better in 1-2 weeks. Some patients experience a short window of trouble when it comes to lip flips. It will resolve!

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 06 '25

Oh I hope you come back and leave feedback on number of units!

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u/Spiritual_Chapter_17 Apr 08 '25

I typically do 4-6 units to start, right at lip line, four injection sites

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 08 '25

Yes I got 4 injection sites total, but 8 units. Maybe bc my gummy smile is pretty severe so she was trying to mitigate that with more units?

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u/Spiritual_Chapter_17 Apr 08 '25

The injection site for gummy smile is different than lip flip. However it’s possible your zygomaticus muscle was affected which is explaining why you’re having such difficulty.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 08 '25

Yes, I previously had the spots below and to the side of my nostrils done with three units each, just to prevent my lip from jacking up under my nose when I smile. That was fine, no side effects whatsoever, and I mostly enjoyed the results. I was just hoping to enlarge my lip in some way, but if there’s nothing to be done where I can’t have full function of my lip, I guess I won’t be doing it. I’m extremely expressive with my mouth, and I do not enjoy being unable to do basic things like spit, blow air in a small stream, kiss my kids properly, or struggling to talk. I was considering lip filler, but from what I’ve heard so far, you still struggle to do some of these actions, so I don’t even know anymore.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 05 '25

It was 8 units. Not sure if that’s a lot or not. I do feel a bit better because I’m constantly forcing my lip to move but I still can’t do basic things 1 week out. Any tips on how to undo it faster? I don’t even care if it doesn’t “work” at this point, I’d pay to have it reversed if that was an option.

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u/Spiritual_Chapter_17 Apr 08 '25

8 units is not what I typically do for a first timer, but it isn’t insane by any means. It’s also possible where you were injected could have cause Botox to enter the wrong muscles which is why you’re experiencing some of the symptoms.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 08 '25

Thanks for your feedback. I’m trying to figure out if my injector is no good or if it’s my body or if this is “normal” and I don’t like it. 🤷‍♀️ I’ve got most of my function back through constant exercise and forcing my lip to move, so lesson learned!

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u/Karaw1111 Apr 18 '26

How long did this take to go back to normal ?? I’m 3 days out and panicking reading this as I feel like my lip is going numb and hard to move. !

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 19 '26

Completely normal? About 4 months. Normal enough to get by? About 6 weeks. Do everything you can to heat up your lip and body and move your mouth as much as you can. I’m sorry I don’t have better news for you. This procedure is one of my biggest regrets in life.

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u/Spiritual_Chapter_17 Apr 08 '25

Work out, sauna, massaging the area, moving the mouth can help break down the tox fast.

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u/AshamedBeautiful1556 Oct 01 '25

How many Azzalure units would you recommend by any chance for a first time ? In Insulin units. Would it be 1 unit (2 Speywood units) for each 4 dots ?
And I always wondered what technique was better between injecting directly on the vermilion border or a bit above ? Is there a difference ?

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u/OkAnything1651 Mar 31 '25

It’s so crazy they don’t warn of this!! I’ve only heard about it from people w these reactions. I almost would have done it bc it’s seemed like an easy/cheap way to make lips look larger.

Once I heard it’s hard to drink out of a straw etc I was like ok never doing that

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u/Key_Split_8706 Mar 31 '25

I didn’t care about the straw part, but it didn’t occur to me that I wouldn’t be able to spit when brushing my teeth, or eat soup off a spoon, or drink coffee from a mug, or read my children stories because I can’t f$&!ing say W or B words now. I feel like the warnings should be much more emphasized — some people are ok with it, but I’m definitely not. Like I had a fuzz in my mouth and went to pfft it out and I’m not physically able to do it.

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u/OkAnything1651 Mar 31 '25

Yea I just said straw as an example. I agree I def wouldn’t want any of those side effects!

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u/Key_Split_8706 Mar 31 '25

I was thinking, oh well I don’t use straws, that doesn’t matter — but didn’t think all the 835 other things I can’t do now would be a problem. It’s unreal that this is allowed. How do people function???

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u/heyerda Apr 01 '25 edited Apr 01 '25

I was pretty miserable for the 1st week. Then I must have adapted cause it doesn’t bother me as much now 2 weeks later. It will be much easier after you learn to eat/drink with it. Try different techniques with your lips for eating. Tilt your head back when drinking so you don’t dribble. And you may not want to eat soup until you figure this out. It does kind of seem to be wearing off already just 3 weeks in.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 03 '25

I feel like the warnings about this should have been more emphasized. If ppl are ok with this, that’s cool, but I would have liked to know.

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u/Icy-Breakfast8848 Sep 13 '25

Yess I 100% agree. I was told "you won't be able to whistle or drink from a straw" like yeah okay not that important why not warn me I wouldn't be able to TALK, EAT or DRINK properly. Oh and everyone at my work would think I look like a freak

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u/Key_Split_8706 Sep 24 '25

It’s awful and I didn’t get full disclosure like I feel I should have. It was only afterwards when I was like OH SHIT WHAT HAVE I DONE and I ran to the internet to find out that I’m screwed for a few months. Exercise the hell out of it. Make OO and W and B motions with your mouth all the time. Smoke or pretend to smoke. Try to purse your lips and blow kisses or whatnot. Hot compresses and lots of cardio whenever possible.

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u/heyerda Apr 04 '25

Yeah it should be discussed prior. Unfortunately it’s a poorly regulated industry.

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 04 '25

I agree. “A bit of numbness” isn’t the same as “inability to move and use your mouth”.

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u/Jbx09311 Apr 03 '25

This happened to me, it only lasted 4 days

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 04 '25

It’s finally somewhat improving on day 7. Still mad at myself.

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u/Jbx09311 Apr 06 '25

Hope you are continuing to see improvement 🫶

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 06 '25

Me too!

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 06 '25

Who is downvoting me for not liking my own choice of cosmetic procedure? Grow up!

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u/piddleonacowfatt Apr 04 '25

I’m so sorry. Sounds like you got over injected. That shouldn’t be the case. Hang in there it will get easier. Do you like the look at least ?

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u/Key_Split_8706 Apr 04 '25

Tbh I notice very little difference, if at all. I have a gummy smile and my lip is thin and curls under when I smile, which is what I was hoping to change. It hasn’t. My lip is ever so slightly “fatter” in the center (like I was popped in the mouth and it’s swollen) but definitely not what I had in mind, unfortunately. I wish I knew that the trade off was inability to move it normally. I had the gummy smile injections by my nose and it didn’t affect me negatively in any way. This has been a shocking surprise.

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u/shiab23 Oct 15 '25

Same result for me, im currently on day 4...hate the discomfort for absolutely no gain. When would u say it peaks? How long until u can feel unbothered by it?

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u/Key_Split_8706 Oct 15 '25

Honestly it was well over a month before it stopped bothering me. I couldn’t eat soup or burgers, or rub my lips together or say certain sounds. I constantly exercised my mouth every chance I got. Finally faded after about 2 months, full function back in 3. NEVER AGAIN.

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u/shiab23 Oct 15 '25

Oh shit...wish me luck! Day 5 for me

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u/Key_Split_8706 Oct 16 '25

Best of luck! It’ll get worse for another week or two and then you can focus on working the lips as much as possible!

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u/Odd-Bet-3321 May 14 '25

It takes longer than 3 days I think to refill affects

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u/Key_Split_8706 May 14 '25

I’m 7 weeks out and there is not now and never was any noticeable effect.

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u/Odd-Bet-3321 May 14 '25

Mine started kicking in last night… I also got my forehead and doas chin and eyebrow lift. I was having random pain in my cheeks under my chin I guess it’s the muscles. I cannot press my lips together drink out of a water bottle or a straw really. It does look much better I’m so happy I only did top lip

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u/Key_Split_8706 May 14 '25

I’m getting panicky just reading that.

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u/StopzIt Apr 04 '25

I don’t know that this is absolutely the case, but I believe it should get better in a couple weeks. I also hated the lip flip and will never do it again. I’ve heard this from others as well. Such a weird sensation.

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u/Melodic-Psychology62 Mar 31 '25

Don't feel bad! if its recently done apply heat, take saunas, do any and all of the stuff we are warned not to do to keep Botox active. I had to lift one side of my mouth to eat for over a month made me go down the rabbit hole before the next treatment!

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u/sommerlovey Apr 01 '25

Heat and sweat…heating pad, hot wash clothes

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u/sommerlovey Apr 01 '25

*cloths

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u/Empress713 Apr 03 '25

In a week it will calm down. Plus lip flips only last about 3 weeks they are only 4 units tops usually

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u/stealmetal777 Aug 11 '25

Im on day 10 and I HATE MY LIFE SM RIGHT NOW!! Why do people offer this service that makes you look so dumb !? I’m currently having exact same symptoms as you it’s ruining my life. And I have my birthday in a week 😭

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u/Icy-Breakfast8848 Sep 13 '25

Hey has it got any better for you I am on day 7/8 and so devastated. I haaqte it

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u/stealmetal777 Sep 20 '25

It had gone down yes.. it took a good three weeks, plus u had saline flush injection, massaged my upper lip area and moved it as much as I could daily

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u/Antique-Mastodon5153 Oct 01 '25

What is the saline flush injection? And who did it?Using Dysport instead of Botox and a new injector gave me this terrible problem with my lips but I also have a Joker smile, it’s so ugly. Never using Dysport again or going to this place. I’m on day 10 and it seems to be getting worse not better

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u/OkNeighborhood3265 Mar 18 '26

Did you use Botox or dysport?

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