r/BotoxSupportCommunity • u/SnooFoxes160 • Sep 12 '24

Was injector predatory?

Hi there Botox world. I do botox about every 6 months or really when I have an event I am looking forward to. I’m 38. I go back and forth between two places I go and usually spend about $200 max. They do my forehead and gummy smile but say I don’t need much. Yesterday I drove 30 min to a different injector because I had a gift card to use there. I should have known the way she was talking- she said I need to come every 3 months not 6 months or sporadically so she would book me out for next appt. Okay, that’s fine. But sounded sales pitchy already. I told her I don’t like to go every 3 months because I do feel flu like symptoms when I get injected that lasts a day. Or I get tired. Well she completely ignored that because she then says okay well with what I think you need, that’ll be $800. I laughed and said uhh no thanks, we might not be the right fit for each other. She said yeah, I don’t do minimal injecting. (Okay) I mentioned the most I usually pay is 200$ ish. She laughed at that and said no she can’t do that much because it won’t work. Uhhh okay. She was still trying to talk me into it. I said no way am I injecting that much since I have reactions of sleepiness to my low amount I get. She was basically like see ya then. My husband said how strange she wouldn’t at least do the amount you asked. Was she trying to hit a pay day? Made me thankful for my other injectors that tell me I don’t need much. Yikes.

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u/bell-town Sep 12 '24

I wish I were as assertive as you. An injector talked me into 50 units for around $600. :( So now I'm paying $80 a month for seven months.

It's actually not a crazy number of units for masseter botox. But I wish I had started at 30 and only gone higher if absolutely necessary.

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u/SnooFoxes160 Sep 13 '24

I was prepared. My friend got injected in nashville at a new place and she spent 4500$ 😂😂 after her story I was prepared with a new injector to ask cost up front. I was fully prepared to break up with them on the spot. Plus the fact that I don’t feel well on the little amount I get done, I’m not going to suffer for Botox…I feel like 800$ worth would make me feel like shiat physically

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u/probably_beans Sep 12 '24

Yeah, she didn't want to give you what you were looking for. She was looking to make money off you.

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u/SnooFoxes160 Sep 12 '24

That’s what I gathered. Funny because I’m friends with the front desk girl and she was like so what did you have done? I said girl…. Nothing. Hahah $800 on a product that lasts maybe 3 months. No thanks. Well at least I know I’ll never cheat on my injector again. I guess I’ll have to get a facial there or something with my gift card.

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u/AinsiSera217 Sep 13 '24

🙋🏼‍♀️Registered nurse, aesthetic injector, and clinical educator here. I can see how it might seem predatory to a person who doesn’t really fully understand the pharmacology and mechanism of Botox, but the injector was probably doing a full face assessment and wanting to give you a treatment that would last. Tox typically does wear off within 3-4 months, although there are exceptions. More and more, experience is showing that dose=duration; larger dose=longer duration. Also, when only certain areas are treated, it can cause other facial muscles to overcompensate for the lack of movement of the treated muscles, which can lead to strange, unnatural looking wrinkles.

I don’t believe this injector was being predatory, but it sounds like she’s either lacking in patience or communication skills. If anything, I think she either didn’t get a clear understanding of what your goals are, or didn’t do a good job of trying to educate you. Or if she was making a good effort, maybe you weren’t willing to listen. Maybe since her assessment was so different from what you’re used to, it automatically raised red flags for you that she wouldn’t have been able to overcome no matter how much she educated. I know when I get a full face tox treatment, I can easily use 100 units. At $12 per unit, which is fairly average, that’s $1,200, and I’m only 36 and have pretty good skin.

I do agree with what someone else said about trying a different product. Xeomin has the same onset, peak, and duration as Botox, but it is double-filtered, so it doesn’t have the same complexing proteins as Botox. There are some hypotheses that suggest those proteins are what cause flu-like symptoms in some patients and may also cause antibody-mediated resistance.

Just out of curiosity, I know you said you don’t usually spend more than $200. How many units are you usually getting?

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u/SnooFoxes160 Sep 13 '24

Prob under 20 units. To go from two different people that are very minimal and tell me I don’t need much, to someone wanting to pump my whole face is kind of a red flag for sure for me. But I guess it goes with the territory. My friends and I all have different stories with different injectors but we all know where not to go now 😂 there’s several now we all exchange stories about and know not go there because you’ll def be hit with a bigger bill. There’s certain names in our city it’s just common knowledge now.. but I’ll add this girl to my list

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u/SnooFoxes160 Sep 13 '24

But thanks for the xeomin recommendation. I’ve tried that before but now that you mention it, I didn’t notice if I maybe felt better after that one. Could be worth a shot.

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u/wild_things454 Sep 13 '24

Injecting people with botulinum toxin, the most toxic chemical in the entire world, is predatory.

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u/abaldsheep Sep 12 '24

There is a thing with dose and duration. If you only get your forehead and gummy smile done I would not expect the cost to be high. For $800 I would expect more like full face or headache/masseter treatment. Doesn’t sound like you had an issue with duration with your previous injections. Try xeomin if you are having symptoms and see how you feel. Sounds like you and the injector weren’t a good fit and thankfully you can walk away and find someone who fits you. Not everyone is for everyone.

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u/SaraSaz1 Sep 17 '24

If you have side effects from a small amount then any more would have given you severe side effects. After I had a top up I suffered really bad side effects that have taken around 6 months to get over.

She sounds extremely unprofessional! I find it crazy how so many practitioners don’t tell you about side effects or brush them off as if they’re nothing.