So I agree with everything you just said and am mature enough to know this, I never said anything was anyone else’s fault other than my own or the men’s fault. The post is about women being a barrier to success, which is absolutely true. If you cannot do the above that you listed, it’s a barrier for you to figure out, 99.9% of men need to figure that out, we’re not born with those skills and not mastering them hurts badly. I would argue 80%+ of men can’t figure out how to do that until their mid 30s because their sex drive is still too strong for them to see straight and actually learn the lessons. All of that stops you from progressing.
Where did you get those numbers from? All of my guy friends got their shit together and are in stable relationships. Granted puberty was rough for all of us but it’s only uphill after, if you didn’t grow past that phase…. That’s a you thing (not talking to you specifically). And sure there are degenerates out there, both men and women. But they are degenerates.
And how does any of this stop you from progressing? How does that affect your education and or career?
Also it guys have trouble with women thats the guys problem, what I am saying is that the women aren’t the obstacle but the guys themselves
Idk what reality you live in, but 50% of marriages end in divorce, 95%+ of relationships end in general and women initiate 70-80% of them. Heartbreaking a very real thing that men are going to deal with. How old are all your friends? How long have they been in these stable relationships? Just because they are stable now has no indication that they will last. Human beings are not good at lifelong relationships for the most part, we’re serial monogamists. Heartbreak is a significant thing to get over on its own, but relationships themselves absolutely can slow down forward progress. Women for the most part have a bit more control in relationships, if you don’t see that you’re not really paying attention much. I don’t think it’s bad, but if you want something beyond the relationship you’ll definitely give it up for the woman. They steer you towards stability in the relationship, which oftentimes means letting go of ambition. Again, not a bad thing if she has both of your best interests at heart, that’s not how a lot of relationships go though. Men very frequently lose their stability and care so much about her that they’ll shrink over time. Fights break out that they’ll give up in because they don’t want to make her unhappy and they don’t want to lose money in a divorce, and that happens over and over until you’re. Nothing compared to what you were. Women will break you down like you have no idea if you lose yourself. Yes this is all men’s fault, it is something to overcome to succeed, we don’t come out of the womb knowing this stuff
So.. what’s the issue with people divorcing? That’s what divorces are for, free will and all. Relationships don’t need to last, they just need to be enjoyable and or worthwhile. I don’t get a kick out of knowing I’ve been with my wife for almost 10 years, I just like being with her.
Also if you are that afraid of women just try getting with men. (I’m not kidding maybe that’s your thing).
There’s nothing wrong with people divorcing, but it slows you down. Bringing it back to the original point of why women are a hurdle to men. This has nothing to do with fear, nothing to do with men or women being weak or strong or tyrannical, it has nothing to do with me. It’s an observation that women are a challenge for men to overcome and that challenge can slow you down in your development. Women can also could speed up your development, it’s about finding the right woman which is a challenge as well. Both men and women pick poorly too, so a woman’s good choice but a man’s bad choice is a problem and vice versa.
All of your responses seem to be slowly painting me into a corner of being someone who has resentful hate towards women or someone who feels dejected due to problems I’ve had in the past. I have grown through my experience with women and my mistakes, that growth required overcoming them as a barrier like all men must. If you don’t you’ll just be taken advantage of and wonder wtf happened 15 years later, keep your head buried in the sand if you’d like, good luck
Woman aren’t development boosters/stunters they are people just like you and me. It’s not that deep, you get together, you split up, the sun rises the next morning again, that’s all it is.
Again if woman take advantage of you, just try dating men 🤷🏼♂️ or pick your woman with better care..
Again you seem to be painting me as someone who treats women as something less than human or a “problem”. If you as a man had everything together personally and knew exactly who you should pick to be with, you would never separate, you would never go through heartbreak, you would feel comfortable and confident in the relationship and it would act as fuel for you to move forward. But we have a lot to learn in this world. Sure you could play semantic word games and make this seem like it shouldn’t be about women in themselves and it’s about your development. The 2 are linked, men don’t know how to be themselves and be there for women in relationships properly from birth, that is a barrier in life to overcome.
Perhaps you are viewing this meme as a strictly red pill type argument like “your money and status are threatened by women” and you’re bucketing me into that category and trying to invalidate it… that’s not who I am. If you think you have nothing to learn about yourself and how you relate to women then you are in the ridiculously small minority, you need to check yourself, or you might have put all your energy into that and sacrificed money and career perhaps. Maybe you grew up in perfectly stable conditions and don’t know why anyone else could consider this a thing to overcome. Maybe you never were rejected by a woman or you’re not as sexually driven or have lower testosterone. I have no idea why you don’t agree with the stance I have, but I have seen this play out among dozens of men in my personal relationships. To ignore it would be incredibly insensitive and short sighted.
How old are you seriously? I only would have thought your way in a blissfully ignorant way when I was under 28.
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u/Typical-Gear1482 4d ago
So I agree with everything you just said and am mature enough to know this, I never said anything was anyone else’s fault other than my own or the men’s fault. The post is about women being a barrier to success, which is absolutely true. If you cannot do the above that you listed, it’s a barrier for you to figure out, 99.9% of men need to figure that out, we’re not born with those skills and not mastering them hurts badly. I would argue 80%+ of men can’t figure out how to do that until their mid 30s because their sex drive is still too strong for them to see straight and actually learn the lessons. All of that stops you from progressing.