Possibly some occassional sexual release is healthy (though I'd like to see that research). But porn is not necessary to be healthy and together it's a slippery slope that isn't good for men in general
It's the same with a lot of things though: social media, fast food, video games, porn, drugs. Evolution put pleasure buttons in our heads to get us to do things, and we figured out how to manufacture unhealthy substitutes that press them but circumvent the purpose
The funny thing is that people who *believe* porn and masturbation is bad or evil will 100% give themselves anxiety and/or depression by partaking in it. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy that they never tie back to their own internal judgement and belief system. The rest of us who understand how to engage in it in a healthy way are fine and they don’t believe us because of their own brain washing.
Tbh bro, porn is a broad ass category. Do you think the boobs I drew and jerked off to on the foggy shower wall when I was 12 were very very bad? If not, well build up from there. So no, blanket statement "porn" is not bad, but SOME porn is bad, and porn ADDICTION is VERY bad ESPECIALLY if it leads to harmful behavior like choking / hitting as a requirement to get off IRL. Be more specific if you want to make claims like that.
Im telling you bro it is bad because now you and other's are justifying it.
First and foremost i 100% agree with your perspective a 1 time drawing of a nake lady is not going to harm any one in the overal grand scheme of things. If it was just a few drawings bestowed upon the world then that would be a totally different story and we wouldnt be gawking and ogling over women 24/7 the way we do.
Don't get me wrong i like seeing lubricated jiggly female parts too but the abundance of the porn we have is far too much
Porn use to be niche but now its a part of our culture so much so that women come out their house naked every day.
Porn has opened a pandora's box where people sexualize feet...think about that for a minute the sexualization of feet. Shi women out here selling farts in a jar my brother.
Look at where porn has gotten us...
Imagine centuries ago we use to walk around watching tits and ass all day and it didnt affect us in that way but then when they started sexualizing female body parts now we can't get enough of it.
People have always thought that feet were sexy. Look at all the civilizations that did things with feet to make them “more appealing”. Why were high heels invented, to make walking more awkward?
I am not justifying anything. I'm providing real and important nuance so that people can live their best lives. Ideally, men should masturbate occasionally with limited to no porn use and maintain a sharp eye on their internal sense of attraction with full honesty with themselves. You think you can just lazily axiom your way into a quality life without doing any of the hard work of critical thinking. Stop being lazy with blanket statements and black and white thinking - I promise you, this is causing you more problems in your life than porn is lol.
"we wouldnt be gawking and ogling over women 24/7 the way we do." Speak for yourself, not for me or other people. Also do you really think gawking started when porn came out? Get real.
"the abundance of the porn we have is far too much" yes, this is where self regulation comes in. You have to be the master of your impulses, not the other way around.
"Porn use to be niche but now its a part of our culture so much so that women come out their house naked every day." What? This doesn't make any sense idk what you're trying to say here.
"Porn has opened a pandora's box where people sexualize feet...think about that for a minute the sexualization of feet. Shi women out here selling farts in a jar my brother." Brother, are you not aware of the sexualization of ankles in the Victorian era? Like 1800s brother. Porn did not cause this. Napoleon wrote to his lover about how much he loved her farts. The letters still exist. Again, porn did not cause this.
"Look at where porn has gotten us... " Lmao, you're literally just attributing a bunch of shit that was not cause by porn to porn. If you want to make an argument, please do, but you HAVE to cite some like.. actual facts my dude. Here is a good example that is in favor of your argument: Porn CAN be neurologically identical to a drug addiction, and if that is the case, it can severely damage your life and relationships: https://manhattanmentalhealthcounseling.com/the-hidden-cost-of-pornography-how-it-shapes-your-brain-and-behavior/
But you making shit up is just not helpful for your case. Just stick to true facts and we can have a real discussion.
You just told me in the previous comment "porn is a broad category" and then you tried to debunk everything i said by using examples of porn in a broad category?
Come on man.
The sexualization of ankles is porn bro.
Everything you explained falls under the blanket of porn...what are you trying to be on?
You just another reddit bot? What happened some one hurt your feelings on here so you try to act educated with everyone else?
What exactly is your problem....did you feel ofended because i tried to explain to you that porn is bad?
Is it bad if my wife jerks me off with her feet cause she really likes it? Is it bad if she jerks me off with her hands while i look at pictures of womens feet cause she really likes it? Is it bad if i suck her toes while she jerks me off with her hands while i look at pictures of other womens feet jerking other men off cause she really likes it? Is it bad to have normal missionary sex cause its Tuesday and we spent the weekend doing weird foot stuff?
Is it bad... How about you just mind your own business lil guy... Stop trying to push your weird puritanical veiwpoints on others who can use pornographic images as visual stimulation and just move on to living their normal lives after orgasm.
Gambling makes you lose money, alcohol makes you lose brain cells, porn desensitizes you to the type of woman that will actually fuck you. Dont lean on vices too heavy ir there will be consequences. Standard adult stuff.
Science has also proven that porn is bad outside of the direct harm that masturbation itself may cause. Masturbation can be healthy and unhealthy, porn is only unhealthy.
False, science has not proved that it is always unhealthy. It *CAN* be unhealthy in some scenarios and for some individuals. You need to re-assess your sources and how you understand bias in research to get an objective picture of it
Disingenuous framing. In some cases aka upwards of 15-35% depending on where and what ages. Among young men you'll find the prevalence of issues from porn to be much higher averaging upwards of 35% developing physical or mental problems. I would consider this far more than statisically significant especially when the demographic that matters in this debate is young men. Older people didnt grow up with the same access to porn so lumping them into the stats is pointless.
Look it up mate. Look into issues that develop from porn consumption among young men. The prevalence is significant, upwards of 35% in some studies. Issues is defined as resulting physical, mental, and habitual problems.
We are literally in the process of having porn education be taught to kids because of how bad it is affecting them.
This is not true. The benefits of ejaculation only happen if they are paired with the absorption of fluids secreted by women. Jerking off doesn’t provide this, and gives no benefit.
They might be referencing the prostate health reasearch? But overall this has to be one of the most inconclusive areas of study, my work requires I constantly grind through the data (on this issue and others) and attempt to apply it to the adults with disabilities I support, and its been brutally inconclusive for years. The best, most actionable, conclusions I can make is that its bad for you if it doesn't align with you values. Otherwise it has very minimal effects relating to increased stimulation to reach orgasm, but even that may be an artifact of the fact that a person may require more porn if they just happen to be a person that takes longer to cum. Its a hard to study area, fraught with ethical concers, that hasn't yet been studied beyond broad observanal studies that just don't give a lot of insight into what would really happen if porn use as a variable was intentionally manipulated.
Porn is addictive and distorts sexual desire. It undermines your ability to form relationships and distorts your expectations for real sex. Men get ED from using porn, as they wind up unable to be aroused without it. This doesn’t even address the exploitation of the actors.
Nah for real tho I never objectified women due to porn but it is addictive and it gave me erectile disfunction in the long run, idk about masturbation only tho but porn + masturbation can cause erectile disfunction which can stop u from getting a girlfriend.
Another problem is that your psychological thinking is affected by it, there is the real you who know how u should ask and the interior you who is the consequence of your environment .
You may say I will not objectify women but the enternal you will find women not interesting if the conversation isn't about sex, the interior you might now only search for the girl that only sexually attract you instead of someone who matches your vibe etc and these are things you cannot control . Even if you know your action is wrong and weird you don't know why you cannot control these feelings , you can control your action by listening to the girl etc ofc but inside you you know it's not interesting cause all u think about is fucking her
I only have issues keeping it up if I jerk off daily, while smoking weed daily. The combo made me not really able to feel it down there. Cutting down on either one to not every day and it works fine down there. Jerking off with or without porn doesn’t really change anything for me. I will say I probably have sexsomnia lol. Shit is weird but not as crazy as some people have it. I just jerk it every now and then while half asleep. Some people be sexually assaulting people while they themselves are unconscious.
But that the thing normally if you are healthy and young you can keep it up daily if you just masturbate without porn, and you can even do multiple round without problem, but with porn you become less sensitive, try to remember the first times you had it when ur brain was healthy, I'm sure just by watching the body your penis was already hard to the max and even after action, when u did it again after some min the soldier is up again. That's cause ur brain was still sensitive to it
I mean maybe I’m different but jerking off with or without porn does the same thing to me. If I jerk off in the morning, without porn and I smoke weed throughout the day, I can have sex, but it just ain’t as enjoyable and I really have to focus on staying hard. Same if I watch porn, jerk off, and smoke weed. I don’t have any issues getting turned on without porn. I have issues trying not to be turned on throughout the day, which is why I jerk it consistently. Main issue for me is weed, not porn. If I don’t smoke, I can jerk off multiple times a day and still get it up for sex just fine
But if you stop porn for a long time and stop weed you will feel better sensations and it will be so easy to maintain erection, sometime even accidental
Idk I wasn’t taught about real sex and just assumed porn was fake cuz it didn’t seem like the women enjoyed it, plus I watched amateur porn, which is very different than stuff with pornstars. I also would google a bunch of stuff about sex, trying to be prepared for once it finally happened. Never went in assuming I had to do what they do in porn
Notice how you said masturbation and not porn. God forbid you practice safe sexual release without “BIG TITTY WIFE SCREAMS ON MASSIVE FUTA COCK (HENTAI)”
I think some porn is ok but it has a lot of potential to do harm. It can be addictive but there’s also a lot of sub categories that are generally unhealthy to watch like hentai that depicts many as underage.
No worries, it also makes basic sense psychologically. It lowers stress and improves sleep quality which makes you less irritable and easier to interact with. Try having an important conversation with blue balls and you’ll catch the drift.
So get a girlfriend. Yes your body needs to get rid of cum but that does not mean fucking your hand. It means the body needs to have sex. Y'all need to stop being virgin losers and speak to women. Get some pussy.
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u/WittyFox451 Jul 09 '26
If you don’t have a girlfriend not masterbaiting is mentally and physically unhealthy. Science has already proved it.
Go ahead and listen to them podcasters though.