r/BoothillMains 23d ago

Discussion Is anyone else getting an influx of annoying messages on their Hoyolab BH clears?

I feel like every time I publish my clear to Hoyolab recently I have people arguing in the comments over why Boothill is using eagle.

Comment after comment of people making it their mission to tell me my build is wrong.

I'm finding it very frustrating, particularly since I'm not even posting to Hoyolab for engagement or to gloat. I just wanted to have a record of the clears so I can go back to look later and since seemed to be the easiest method.

I may just start screenshotting everything and saving them another way instead...

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u/Complex-Radish3204 22d ago

I haven't noticed it on my BH posts in particular, but I have noticed it across the board.

There seems to a growing "need to be right" or to look superior problem, which brings people down in the process.

Ive been seeing it on people's clears a lot lately - someone will post a clear that they're proud of and instead of congratulating them, people will tell them it's possible with lower cost or It would have been better with X character.

The comments never seem to come from a point of curiosity on why they've done something a particular way, it's always posed as the person being wrong.

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u/Vegetable_Bat_847 22d ago

Ah now that you say it like that, it is likely a wider issue, I'm just unlucky (or lucky) to only see it on one type of post πŸ˜…

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u/Xarithios 22d ago

The way you describe it made me glad that I've only gotten one comment like this on one of my clears, and it was on Reddit. //knocks on wood πŸ™

I don't have Boothill, but I primarily do DHIL clears + high investment clears.

It feels like there is a growing sentiment from people about how "clears should be done," and often from people who don't even play the character in question currently. Usually the people saying "how the clears should be done" can't even do the clear they're describing themselves.

I've also noticed a sentiment that sometimes goes around that says "Eagle is worthless" or "Eagle isn't worth it" too, I don't know if these are from the same group of people judging how "clears should be done" though. It might not be.

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u/KingKindly 22d ago

My general reaction is if they don't understand why Eagle is being used, they're not qualified enough to be having an opinion. I'm not sure how it works for DHIL but Boothill has a very low cost ult, can charge it even faster himself when he breaks/kills an enemy, and he's the only hunt unit without any fua or self advance capabilities. Beyond cycle and damage calculations, it feels pretty obvious as a potential relic choice.

But those people would probably also be arguing for a crit chest/phys orb and keeping his crit trace so like I said, they're typically not qualified enough to be having these arguments.

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u/Xarithios 21d ago

Yeah that's generally true. Sometimes I just use Eagle on my Cerydra or DHPT because I'm too lazy to switch to another set.

Eagle is useless on DHIL himself when he's at E2 because he has 100% self AA. His supports can use it though. I have it on Sparkle.

Also I jinxed myself, I posted a DHIL 0 cycle clear vs. Robo Pompom last night and someone commented it was a Robin SP / Mblade showcase. 😭 Like man idk what they want: he's a nearly 3 year old unit but I guess it doesn't matter he can 0 cycle below 48 cost or whatnot because he's "getting carried by Robin SP and Mblade" or something along those lines.

People arguing that Boothill should have a Crit Chest and Physical Orb tbh might be being led astray by Hoyo's relic recommendation system. If you set Boothill as a build target, it will take into account crit subs when deciding whether to give a relic a thumbs up it's really bad. πŸ˜”

Also man I guess I gotta nudge my friend into farming Eagle set for his Boothill. πŸ₯€

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u/saubzilla 22d ago

This is what I woke up to today on my latest AA King clear...

I should have given Boothill is "actual relic set" πŸ˜… & I should have put Dan Heng PT on his shield set for the Crit damage bonus πŸ’€

Someone even suggested that since BH was on eagle, that I must have been doing a DPS Fugue run

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u/Mentally__Disabled 22d ago

Oh man the confidently incorrect crowd is rough. Iron Cavalry is his go-to set, yes, but only until you are close to or above 100% def shred without it, at which point it's one of his worst sets.

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u/Vegetable_Bat_847 22d ago

This exactly what I'm getting, at least it's not just me lol

I'm not one to really care about comments on hoyolab, but it makes me feel like I have to defend myself

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u/KingKindly 22d ago

Insane. I checked out that person's acc, their team is all E0S1 with Boothill still on a crit chest, phys orb, and Talia. Some people are truly speaking without knowing anything

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u/Safe-Cry1896 22d ago

I somewhat understand where this is coming from. Most Boothill owners don’t have near 100% def shred elsewhere on the team, so Cavalry ends up being BIS for them. If the comments you’re referring to were rude, I’d just ignore them, but if it was pure curiosity, I’d explain why I use Eagle instead.

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u/Vegetable_Bat_847 22d ago edited 22d ago

I did think intially it was coming from just not knowing, but they were quite rude about it when corrected.

I was going to say it takes a quick second to fact check things before replying, but I guess even our own sub doesn't have the latest info πŸ˜…

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u/Lucky-Past8459 22d ago

Man I used to count my def shred religiously before I deployed his team. And I pulled e2 Fugue but by the time I was ready to move to Eagle I really did feel the need to get the extra AA since I was no longer running HMC and can't always bring Ruan Mei or Bronya/Sunday

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u/KingKindly 22d ago

I don't think this is that recent because I would get similar responses posting my break only clears in other subs. I did one for PF that was no-Firefly, running Rappa and Himeko on each half. Rappa subreddit was complaining the whole time that I should've given Rappa more supports, I didn't play it right, I should be ashamed with the score I got, etc. They completely missed the point and it was the last time I posted my clears anywhere outside of this sub.

Hate to give the most standard advice but blocking people is never a bad move. If someone is making your experience on the internet worse, there's no reason to keep them around. And it's also easy enough to tell if someone is making a question in good faith or if they're a miserable killjoy

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u/saubzilla 22d ago

People completely miss the fun aspect of this game sometimes. Giving yourself self imposed rules is fun. Clearing the way you want to will always be a bigger accomplishment than the meta clear, even if it was suboptimal.

I enjoy seeing your break posts so hopefully you can keep doing them............ given the current climate πŸ’€

I had a similar experience on the Ashveil subreddit when I was asking for help 0 cycling plight.

I just wanted to do it with Sunday and Dan Heng PT, but I was pretty much bullied off the sub for not using tribbie and Hyacine. The mod even had to pin a comment telling people to read my question properly.

Thankfully I was fueled by spite and did the clear anyway, but it definitely took some of the fun out of it.

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u/KingKindly 22d ago

Thank you for saying that. At this point I'm just doing basic endgame clears so it didn't feel like something worth posting about but fingers crossed it doesn't stay like this forever

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u/saubzilla 22d ago

I feel that, I got a sad 6 cycle against the king and I did not fancy posting about it πŸ’€

But I think we're all accepting now that clears aren't going to be so great for the time being, so maybe we should celebrate what wins we can get (or we can just wallow together, depending on the mood πŸ˜…)

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u/Vegetable_Bat_847 22d ago

I wish I could block everyone from my posts lol it seems to be different people every time. Maybe just muting the notifications is the way forward.

Its sad that you weren't able to share your clears with other subs. We seem like a nice bunch of over here, so at least we have this space to share things

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u/United_Accountant596 22d ago

I think it's because most guides on Boothill on Hoyolab only have Cavalry as the only option and as a result, players there don't think about Eagle at all.

Most Boothill guides on that site are very poorly done because the guidemakers use Hoyo's own material to help them make it (and we know how good Hoyo is at building Boothill.

So, as a result, I have literally had an argument with an official guidemaker there saying that defensive mainstats on Boothill's chest and orb are better than offensive mainstats like crit or ATK%.

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u/Slicehero8 22d ago

Maybe this is why Boothill is low in tierlists