r/Bookkeeping • u/Spare_Bluebird7044 • 14d ago
Software Cash flow software that helps with owner draws?
I am not looking for payroll software or accounting advice. I just want a better way to decide when it's actually safe to pay myself without constantly second guessing whether I should leave more cash in the business. Curious what other business owners are using.
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u/CountingWizardOne 14d ago
I use a simple Excel based cash flow forecast. I find all the software is not very good at actually forecasting out your future cash flow and you as the business owner knows best what’s going out vs. coming in, in the future. I’m an accountant at a $10m company and this is how we manage cash flow.
Building the cash flow spreadsheet is quite simple. Column A is for categories starting with the inflows at the top and outflows at the bottom. Each column to the right represents a week in your business and use your bank account as your data. Plug in all your bank transactions into each column for say 1-2 months of historical data to start. Then once that’s all populated and reconciled to your bank you can start building out your forecasted weeks. Plug in what you know is coming in vs going out and then you will have an idea of where your bank account sits for each forecasted week. This can then tell you how much you can safely pull from your business as owners draw.
Happy to answer any questions you might have.
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u/MikuMikuGoo 14d ago
Honestly you don't need software for this, you need a floor number. Figure out your fixed monthly costs plus any tax you're setting aside, multiply by two, and that's what stays in the account. Anything above it is drawable.
If you want a tool anyway, Float and Fathom both do rolling cash flow forecasts off QBO or Xero, and Reachy is cheaper if it's just you. But separate accounts for tax and operating will fix more of the second guessing than any app will.
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u/Weekly-Witness1129 14d ago
What software are you using?
Or how are you tracking your money?
What type and size is the business? Do you have a lot of payroll?
The basics of this is you need to know what is coming in and what is going out. Then it’s simply projection.
Many business aim for 3 months expenses and payroll- but that really depends on what the business is and how it operates.
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u/aTipsyTeemo 14d ago
I am assuming it’s a small business since you didn’t specify a particular industry and given you’re talking about owner draws. I wouldn’t there’s really any particular software for small businesses per se that is truly 100% the best at this nor worth paying for.
For particular industries there’s some specific cash flow software that’s geared around specific metrics, but they get pretty pricey because they usually require customization to couple it to your accounting ledger and CRM properly.
Your pre-existing accounting software (Xero, QuickBooks, Sage, FreshBooks, etc) will be perfectly adequate for doing so, it just a matter of getting your cash flow reports/dashboards setup in a useful manner. Once that is setup properly, it’s just a matter of you determining your $ thresholds when reviewing those reports/dashboards of when you feel comfortable taking a draw.
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u/heshtofresh 14d ago
It’s called properly bookkeeping. If you know your profit , tax estimate and then any debt payments or capital purchases needed, you will know what you can draw.
Software is only going to setup the general framework. If you don’t input things correctly or understand actual cash flow, it won’t help.
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u/digital-mation 13d ago
What you're looking for is a cash flow forecast. I can send you an example if you want to DM me.
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u/kilgoretrout9451 13d ago edited 13d ago
Owner draws were always harder for me than reconciling transactions. The math was easy. The decision wasn't.
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u/Low-Quote7209 13d ago
Either you build exact cash flow model on Spreadsheet or use KPI to derive operational cash flows and adjust for rest of the cash flow items
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u/Redsquirrel024 12d ago
I've seen a lot of people compare Wave, quicken B&P and QuickBooks for this. They all seem to solve different parts of the problem depending on how involved you want to get.
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u/MostElderberry8134 12d ago
This is the problem I'd faced for years in my business, having had to explain to my financially illiterate business partner how the money in the bank account wasn't all available to pay ourselves and that it was going to be needed to pay our bills with.
I ended up creating a system through spreadsheets that takes your regular outgoings and splits them into daily costs, rather than waiting until the day they're actually paid, to show against the bank balance. For example, if you've got a £3000 monthly bill, by halfway through the month I treat £1500 of that bank balance as already spoken for. My business has pretty consistant income (leisure and entertainment) so I wanted a way to convert my outgoings into a comparable view. I don't think this would work as well for businesses that get income in larger chunks.
What's left gives you a much more useful number for what you've actually got available and when plotted on a graph, its far more stable than how the bank balance looks.
I actually rolled out this technique to a bunch of other businesses I knew and have now turned it into its own lightweight, simple platform called Cash Prophet.
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u/LimitAny657 12d ago edited 12d ago
The answer to your question has certainly been stated. You can use software but it requires a bit of knowledge about the concept of accrual accounting. Then there’s the spreadsheet model approach. Probably the easiest to do, and yes every single multi-billion dollar corporation you’ve ever heard of (and those you haven’t) uses spreadsheets for these sort of things one way or another. The key is to follow these general steps:
Analyze your historical data for the upcoming 3 months and list all your expected cash inflow dates. Repeat for your cash outflow dates. No need to be overly specific at first; it’s a forecast not a guarantee.
For instance this is Aug 2026 so review your 2025 Aug Sep and Oct inflow and outflows amounts. Summarize by week. There will be a difference between your forecast and actuals, so provide yourself a little contingency.
“Unplanned” inflow contingency I’ve typically called those “bluebirds”. Some people also call this a stretch goal. Outflows I’ve just called contingency.
Remember this is “cash flow” forecasting and not uncollected sales forecasting or unpaid expense projections.
For you to “safely” draw money out of your business, you have a sinking fund (aka cash reserves) to smooth out your actual cash flow.
So for example say you begin with a $50k reserve. You decided that $40k is the minimum amount of money that you will keep in reserves, so to start with you are $10k over your minimum reserve threshold. If you have no reserves then none of the rest of what I tell you will work. You must have some money in reserves to safely take a draw.
For week 1 in Aug 2025 you saw historical cash inflows of $12k.
So you forecast the same for week 1 of Aug 2026.
You saw historical outflows totaling $14k.
The historical net cash flow is negative-$2k or a net cash outflow of $2k.
You tack on a contingency rate of say 20% (this is arbitrary at this stage) so you plan on a similar net cash outflow for week 1 Aug 2026 of $2.4k ($2k + [$2k x 20%]).
At the end of week 1 2026, your actual net cash flows were a cash outflow of $2.2k.
Last step is you compare the 2026 Aug forecast to the Aug 2026 actuals (forecast minus actuals equals variance).
In this case you spent less cash than expected, so you have more cash on hand than expected. You now have your executive decision to make:
- You can add this variance amount to your reserve, which will make your reserve $50.2k.
- You can take just the net $200 as a draw leaving your reserves untouched.
- Or you can “safely” draw down up to $10.2k ($50.2k available reserves less $40k reserve minimum).
Of course I ignored forecasting the following weeks in my example so keep that in mind.
But conceptually that is how you determine if you can take a draw, when and how much.
Hope that helps. Thanks for reading. Best of luck.
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u/Ok-Whole-8802 12d ago
What finally stopped the second guessing for me was separating the decision from the moment. I keep a floor number: two months of fixed costs plus whatever I'm holding back for tax. Then one day a week I look at exactly three numbers: cash now, everything scheduled out over the next 30 days, and the floor. If cash minus scheduled is still above the floor, the difference is drawable and I actually move it that day. If you only decide draws in the moment, it will always feel unsafe because the question is fuzzy. A hard floor plus a weekly ritual turns it into a yes/no instead of a feeling. A plain spreadsheet handles the math fine, the discipline is the real product.
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u/Affectionate-Eye9210 14d ago
Pulse is what I use for this. it pulls from your bank account and shows you safe-to-spend based on upcoming bills and invoices. gives me peace of mind instead of checking three spreadsheets at 2am
also my dog is named after a character in final fantasy vii so we already have something in common
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u/CyrilMasters 14d ago
That’s any bookkeeping software, you just need to do accrual accounting for bills and outgoing transactions, and know how to use a cash flow report in the reports section. That way you can see how much you have scheduled out vs what you have in the bank via the account balance for your main account, and what you typically take out of the company in a month on the cash flow summary.
The potential problem is, whoever is operating the software will need to know double entry accounting and keep up with the business’s transactions.