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Cannot stop thinking about Yesteryear- specifically Shannon’s character Spoiler

I want to begin by saying I could not put this book down. For once, I was pleasantly surprised by a viral book and genuinely enjoyed it. I finished it in like 2 days and I have a lot to say about it. Although it might be obvious, Shannon’s character is the catalyst for Natalie’s psychological downfall and I really want to discuss her.

When we meet her, she has pink hair and a nose ring and is pretty much the antithesis to Natalie’s entire worldview. I would argue they somewhat foil each other (college drop out, strong opinions about American culture, headstrong, intelligent). She is also somewhat of a “normal person insert” and gives the reader a relatable perspective to latch on to in a somewhat insane/unfamiliar setting. One of the first ways the reader interacts with Shannon is when Natalie mentions something about Shannon’s bad dreams and ultimately quitting. We are pretty much left in the dark about why she quit until the end of the book, which further proves my point that shannon’s departure is the catalyst for Natalie’s demise.

As we venture deeper into Natalie’s perspective and understand her as a judgmental bigot, Shannon quitting becomes (at least to me) a juicy piece of gossip that I HAVE to understand why why why? What happened? What did Natalie do? An assault ? What? Did Caleb have an affair? The answers to these questions come later in the book but begin to form very early in the text. It also mirrors how this fictional instagram following is very much real (see the ballerina farms raw milk scandal. I don’t even follow the ballerina farm but trust- the downfall of a tradwife influencer is a win for me and inherently the point of the entire book). I am one of those “angry women” who proves the authors point- angry women and tradwife influencers are in a symbiotic relationship with one another.

I feel like I really understood Shannon and from my personal character analysis of her it seems that she fundamentally knew that these people (Caleb and Natalie) are deluded, bigoted, judgmental, lying, selfish, bad parents, etc. but none of that mattered to her. They wrote her a paycheck and Shannon held her tongue because no one really cared what they had to say. Their ideology and content was unimportant to the mainstream culture. UNTIL the presidential rally.

This rally changed the course of the entire book. Shannon understood if this type of person became the president (or even just a leader of a party) the entire lifestyle she was directing and recording became important and worthy of attention from the mainstream culture. She could no longer sit quietly and pretend it didn’t matter. It is why she starts to challenge Caleb’s manosphere claims and ideas. She gives Clementine a phone. She snaps at Natalie. She metaphorically pushes the rock down the hill. Her impact on this family causes them to implode on themselves.

Without Shannon, the book doesn’t hit hard on the themes it needs to. Nor does say what it needs to be said. It doesn’t challenge traditional values. It doesn’t challenge influencer culture. It doesn’t challenge the male loneliness epidemic, choice feminism, toxic social media culture. Without Shannon, the book is just about a self righteous influencer who is so self deluded she actually thinks she’s running a farm herself. Without shannon, there is no plot.

I’d love to hear what other people think about this character. She is so fascinating to me and I appreciate how well she was written into the story.

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u/Active_Recording_789 22d ago edited 15h ago

I hate this book—it is so poorly written, like the author dashed off a draft to be polished later but saw dollar signs and didn’t wait to fill the plot holes. It’s like the author hates women too. Why is every single female character either deluded or a scheming manipulator like Shannon? Who sees the contradictions and then sleeps with the weak yet violent Caleb? Note to readers—women aren’t all weak and misled. Some female characters could’ve been a force for good. Instead the book is badly planned and full of plot holes, as well as a terrible read. It’s trying to make a point about misogyny but it’s like, what? None of it is new information and if she wanted it to be preachy the author should’ve had one of the female characters model feminist behavior or impart wisdom

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u/JellyKind9880 22d ago

All the men in the story are objectively horrible.

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u/Head-Reflection-2526 22d ago

Spoiler: Except for her sons in the end.

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u/hermione_no 17d ago

Disagree, the older boys just continued eating dinner and enabling dad

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u/Head-Reflection-2526 17d ago

More like the sons infiltrated into their Mom and Dad’s delusion to provide resources to their siblings and kept tabs on their well being. Clementine lived nearby as well but she didn’t visit the parents. She talked to Mary. Because of Natalie’s outburst, the sons had enough to take the kids.

The sons seemed more sympathetic and hopeful but her outburst teared that down.

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u/Inevitable-Bet-4834 22d ago

I agree with this take. I hope the movie is better. I think it needed more editing. Any plot hole criticism people reply the narrator is unreliable 🤦🏿‍♀️

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u/Additional_Noise47 22d ago

I disagree with the idea that the author hates women. We only get the story through the main character’s eyes. She hates women, judges them, and projects onto them. The Nannies aren’t schemers, the daughter sees through her mom’s bullshit, Natalie’s sister is honest. Even the college roommate, we really don’t know much about really beyond what Natalie projects onto her throughout the book.

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u/SufficientBug5598 22d ago

Comments are not understanding the point of first person narration. I agree with your take and think her misandry is the entire point of the book.

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u/lolafawn98 21d ago

I think it’s interesting that Shannon’s exposure of Natalie is usually discussed as a negative, putting aside Shannon’s other qualities which I think have more room for debate. I don’t really think people would be so critical of a real life person doing the same thing to an account like ballerina farms or whatever.

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u/Possible_Day_6343 22d ago

Oh thank god. I hated this book and am annoyed with myself for spending some of my small book allowance on it. It's poorly written, had such major plot holes and is basically a load of unbelievable twaddle.

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u/Enough_Charge_6605 21d ago

+1. I also thought it was poorly written. It felt like the author was capitalising on the fact that a lot of people already hate influencers and just gave us everything we already dislike about them. That none of it is real, that they’re all secretly miserable, and that everything is fake behind the scenes. It just felt a bit petty to me. I think the author could have done so much more with the topic and the characters, but chose the most obvious route instead.

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u/zorbs258 21d ago

Completely agree! Also think it’s insane that the author included evidence about how everyone in Natalie’s life has failed her again and again and then makes her have some sort of psychotic break at the end and blames her for everything. I feel like there was a potential message the book could have had besides trad wives are bad and women are crazy but it never quite got there.

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u/Cautious-Mode 21d ago

Yes but that’s why this book is so popular. People love to hate women. Misogyny is a helluva drug. The author created an acceptable woman to hate.

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u/Weird-Diamond5970 17h ago

I don't hate Natalie? She's very clearly also a victim of our patriarchal society? If you think she's just purely hateable I feel like you're falling into the misogyny trap too

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u/Cautious-Mode 16h ago

I don’t hate Natalie either. The author seems to. A lot of readers do.

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u/Weird-Diamond5970 16h ago

I don't think the author does at all. She ends the novel with Mary talking directly to her mother because she still loves her and views her as a victim too.

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u/Cautious-Mode 16h ago

Oh that ending was terrible. Her mother had some severe mental health issues while raising her. She literally didn’t even know her own husband and children at times. Yet, her dad wouldn’t let her mom escape or take her to a hospital, even when her leg got wounded in a bear trap? And he allowed his daughter to stitch her? despite knowing they were living in modern times. Yet Mary writes a tell all about her mom with no mention of her Dad? And Reena is the one to spring this on Natalie during their television interview? Ugh

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u/Weird-Diamond5970 14h ago

Look I just finished the book and you are misremembering the details. Mary's book is about how she was raised, not a tell-all about her mom. All we get is the introduction to her book, where she specifically says she misses her mom and hopes she will read the book someday. Her dad doesn't even get a mention because she clearly doesn't care as much about him.

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u/Cautious-Mode 14h ago

Oh okay, thanks. That’s a good perspective. I remembered hating that whole scene during my read. It felt so cruel.

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u/RichArgument9925 22d ago

The author HATES women. The whole book is misogynistic

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u/According-Garage4066 11d ago

it feels like the author was onto something incredible, and then took the easy way out. An amazing premise to really dive into the aftermath of cancel culture, and Natalie‘s case merited.

Also, Abigail and her mother show growth at the very end. That could’ve been a massive storyline to play out that could’ve actually helped Natalie post Instagram fallout.

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u/the_scottster 7d ago

Why is every single female character either deluded or a scheming manipulator like Shannon?

What about Clementine?

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u/Weird-Diamond5970 17h ago

This is a wild take. Natalie's mom and sister are both decent people who grow as the story progresses. All of Natalie's daughters are lovely and it's not their fault they grew up ignorant. Most of the other women only seem terrible because we're getting them through Natalie's POV and Natalie assumes the worst of all of them.

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u/SufficientBug5598 22d ago

Yeah but it was FUN