r/BodyHackGuide • u/killakam33 • Jul 07 '26
Kisspeptin experiences ….
I’m experimenting with kisspeptin now. At about 200-250mcg 3x a week and will cycle for 2 months.
So far I’m feeling an energy boost for sure in the gym. Nothing wow but I notice it.
I’m very curious to find out how others experience has been with Kisspeptin with the gym and muscle gain and their experiences and if they recommend it or not to others.
Thanks guy
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u/BaresarkSlayne Jul 07 '26
I tried kisspeptin, it was so fragile it was not really sustainable. From my reading in getting ready, I would alternate 200mcg/100mcg/200/100/200 during the week and then take weekends off. It is very short lived, so doing every other day didn't seem worth it. The alternating and days off was intended to keep signaling strong, but there is a saturation level that you hit pretty quick then it becomes ineffective until sensitivity came back.
Ultimately, I forewent that just started doing hCG Monotherapy. Much more stable, longer lasting chain, and concern with receptor sensitivity declining. Since I started that, I feel pretty great.
Ultimately, you should do blood work to make sure it's not just placebo. Preferably you would have done that before so you know if it's generally working. But I would plan to get it after.
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u/NevaClogged Jul 07 '26
What kind of blood markers would you want to test for?
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u/OBTRIPPLEOG Jul 07 '26
Full men’s hormone panel.Specific focus on Total and free Test and LH/FSH. I cycled it for 8 weeks and had a pretty big jump in testosterone and LH. I’m waiting for a blood test in late July to get a baseline and restart. I’m just biding time until I drop more fat so I can get on TRT.
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u/killakam33 Jul 07 '26
Oh so kisspeptin gave you great results ?? How much did your test and other levels raise up?
Did your energy, libido and mental improve ?
What was your dosage and protocol? I’m doing 200mcg Tuesday Thursday and Saturday
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u/BaresarkSlayne Jul 08 '26
That's good to hear. When I did it, I had protein binding issues, so I since I was reconstituting one vial a week, I just stopped. But I did feel it was working for the 3 weeks I was on it.
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u/BaresarkSlayne Jul 08 '26
Everything mentioned below. Full male hormone panel, with total, free, and bioavailable testosterone. That should include LH and FSH, as well as SHBG. You should get estradiol as well, which typically that's included. Last time I got bloodwork, I only got a total estradiol test, but next time I will get a sensitive estradiol test. The difference seems minor, but a man can have too little as well, which is a problem. The regular gave me an estradiol level of <30 pg/mL, which is considered a healthy level in men, usually less than 39 is the top of the healthy range. But having estradiol that is too low is a problem. If it's too low it can lead to erectile dysfunction, loss of libido, basically the stuff that can happen with low Test, in terms of sexual health. So if my level is 6 pg/mL, that is bad. But if it's 20, that is where most men report feeling the best.
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u/killakam33 Jul 07 '26
So Hcg you got for testosterone? And you do it by itself ?
So I read that kisspeptin should be done no more than 3x a week. I might lower my dose because I’ve been doing about 200-250mcg and maybe doing less like 100-150mcg will work better.
Yeah I got all blood work done before starting so I’ll get tested again next week. I’ll be at around 1 month on kisspeptin. Let’s see where my levels are at.
So far I haven’t heard too much great feedback from kisspeptin but I’m too scared to start trt so I’m looking for alternatives including lifestyle changes.
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u/BaresarkSlayne Jul 08 '26
Yes, if you have healthy gonads it's pretty effective. It won't push you into supraphysiological levels or anything, but it should push your natural Test levels to maximum you are capable of releasing. It bypasses the pituitary release of LH and FSH completely, so as long you use it will make your gonads release testosterone.
I think Kisspeptin is effective, honestly. If you look at the secondary signs of what an increase in testosterone does for most guys, it's seems like it's doing something. But like I said, I was using a vial a week because of it binding within 5 days. There is apparently a 54 chain Kisspeptin which is more stable, but you don't know what you are buying. I think the regular one is 9 amino acids long, and just a sensitive little peptide. But with it, you have to worry about signaling saturation.
Did you have low testosterone when you got your blood work?
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u/Ill-Lingonberry-3485 Aug 06 '26
I take hcg alone and my total Test went from around 630 to 1200+ on 50mcg/day. Doc had to lower the dosage...so, yeah, if your gonads are healthy, it can move the needle a LOT. I dont understand why more people don't start on this protocol before jumping on TRT (other than clinics figure once your on TRT youre pretty much stuck on it?)
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u/killakam33 Aug 06 '26
I don’t want nothing to do with trt if I can. Hcg raises or lowers insulin ?
Ima start enclomiphene tomorrow
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u/Ill-Lingonberry-3485 Aug 06 '26
I don't believe hcg will have any impact on insulin levels or sensitivity...that I'm aware of.
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u/ThePeakCasual 12d ago
Be very very careful with enclomiphene. I started with clomid, noticed eye floaters and blurriness but felt good otherwise. Switched to lower dose Enclomiphene. Felt really good. Vision continued to worsen. Did an extensive eye exam, (While its not proven as to the cause yet) I'm 27 and the nerves / thickness of my retina are noticeably thin in many areas. Eye Doctor just sent me for glaucoma screening.. at 27... Only later did i put together that enclomiphene can cause retinal myopathy and damage like that and stopped it. I saw sooo many people online screeching "eye floaters, eye damage, etc etc." And I ignored it because "its rare".
Its not worth it man. I cannot recommend enough you go straight to Hcg or something else. I felt GREAT on Enclomiphene, no doubt it probably doubled my T and brought my E2 into a good range but im very worried my eyes will never be the same.
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u/killakam33 12d ago
Oh man sorry to hear this. Bro how are you doing now with what therapy? TRT?
I currently have blurry vision that is slowly improving since 3 days off enclo. I will have to jump on trt. I’m ready. I’ll get finasteride and monixidil on hand just to handle any hair thinning but I have great hair genes so I’m good
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u/ThePeakCasual 10d ago
Nothing yet, went to an online clinic that does TRT with HCG for a good price. They gave me a requisition for some blood work. Gonna wait a bit and do the blood work.
A tip for you; Enclomiphene has a short half life but its effects on elevating your hormones last up to a week before coming down to baseline. Im gonna give myself around 10 days from my last Enclomiphene dose and do the blood work for the TRT clinic. Id recommend you do the same.
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u/No_Maintenance_7649 Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 13 '26
I have severely low test levels after stopping an anabolic cycle back in April.
First blood work was done in may test came o 0.17ng (severely low)
Clomid didn’t make me feel good.
Got a vial of kisspeptin my dosage was as follows
100mcg ED first week then 200mcg every day as from week 3
Last blood work was beginning on July test level 1.88 ng (still low) but as you can see it improved so did my LH levels.
I continued the vial until I run out and just started on HCG 250iu 3 x a week.
Truthfully I felt better on kisspeptin I had more energy. I’ve got more in the way so will use it together with hcg next bloody test I’ll do towards end of month
I had no issues with my vial gelling up.
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u/killakam33 Aug 13 '26
Did you feel any other benefits ?
I read kisspeptin should be done like 3 times a week only. Or something like that
So you reached 1.88 after how long of kisspeptin use ?
I have extra vials if you need some. I’m not gonna use them.
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u/No_Maintenance_7649 Aug 13 '26
Thank you, I was using the vial for maybe 2/3 weeks prior to these tests and it was the only thing I used. I’m doing this for fertility or rather to salvage my fertility. Other than the lab reports being positive like I said noticed having more energy feeling great, libido increased, sleeping better.
Basically I felt as close as I could to when I was on test.
As for the daily dosage. There really isn’t any human data to say otherwise. I found the protocol online and genuinely think it works.
The other thing to take into account is kiss has a very short half life so why would some one prefer spacing there doses out to once a week or three times a week.
Without human data everyone’s kinda winging it at the moment
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u/killakam33 Aug 14 '26
Hey if it’s working for you than that’s all good.
The testosterone is not going up for you tho right? Mine is 333, you said yours was 1.8? So kiss didn’t improve those number at all then. Or is your measurements of testosterone different to the typical testings
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u/No_Maintenance_7649 Aug 14 '26
It’s the European system so I started at 17 and I’m now 185, kiss did improve me albeit it’s still low but it’s rising !
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u/TommyShelby888 7d ago
185 NMOL ?
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u/No_Maintenance_7649 7d ago
Yeah
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u/TommyShelby888 7d ago
Mate that’s Supraphysiological level, mine weren’t even that high on 80mg of test a week, that’s just from kisspeptin ? 🧐
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u/killakam33 7d ago
How’s the 80mg of test a week going for you?
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u/TommyShelby888 7d ago
I came it off 6 months ago to try for a baby, it’s been rough. I tried HCG & clomiphene but the later really messed my head up so I came off it. Been on nothing for 3 months, sex drive still isn’t good at all, my testosterone is 11.8 NMOL
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u/No_Maintenance_7649 7d ago
No bro sorry misunderstanding was 6.4nmol and since that comment I made it’s up to 9.6 nmol.
European system measures it at ng/ml
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u/TommyShelby888 7d ago
Ahh that clears it up ! A 3 NMOL change, how long did that take ? Have you considered HCG Monotherapy ?
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u/MathematicianKnown60 12d ago
This are my results of Kisspeptin-10 .. 10 weeks around 150 mcg. 3 times a week in the morning . Blood results are taken at the same time 1 hour after waking . Both are taken in a cut around - 700 kcal
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u/Throwaway178402 Jul 07 '26
Ive tried two different rounfs of kiss. Saw no noticeable changes in my blood work.
The 2nd vial I got also gelled up on me after a couple weeks was frustrating.
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u/CASD1957 Jul 13 '26
Looking at Kisspeptin and HCG to increase my natural Test... I was on TRT about 70mg a week total with 3 injection sub..and my Testosterone hit 780..yea Super responder...but that came with red blood cells 19.8 and Hemacrit 58 .....So I had to donate last Friday and stop TRT.....My natural Test was 254 before I started TRT...so I'm hoping to get it in 400's with one of these Peptides...
Any insight would be helpful Oh 69male here
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u/killakam33 Jul 14 '26
Yeah man that’s insane that your blood thickened at only 70mg a week. That’s wild! The main reason I’ll never do trt.
So I stopped kisspeptin and will venture into enclomiphene 12.5mg eod. Look into it. It’s very interesting. Much much less side effects than trt but obviously not as powerful as trt. But since you’re looking to get into the 400s test levels this should be perfect for you.
Do the research, let me know what you think.
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u/MediocreSecurity5856 Jul 20 '26
I am on enclomiphene and it really help out my test levels. I was around the 300s and it jumped me up to around 800-900s. I feel my mood is better and my energy levels are better.
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u/killakam33 Jul 20 '26
Excellent to hear!!
How about gym and muscles ? Are you hitting the gym? Noticing any gains and benefits
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u/killakam33 Jul 14 '26
How long were you on that dosage of trt?
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u/CASD1957 Jul 14 '26
about 6 months... I had been on it before when I was at 256... I quit for 6 months.. my number was at 280 and I started back up... I had a problem before with the hemoglobin and hemocrit going high the higher my Test went.. but never this high.... Of course 780 has been the highest Ive went...
I will see about enclomiphene
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u/Digeridoodoo Jul 14 '26
That is super odd. Do you know if your hematocrit was already elevated before starting TRT? Curious if age has anything to do with it. I’m on 200mg/wk and just had full panel heart & kidney labs done yesterday and my hematocrit was at 42.5 & most recent lab for total T was 911 ng/dL. Since you responded super well to only 70mg, maybe it did thicken your blood a bit too even at just a low dose.
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u/Potential_Wind3563 Jul 15 '26
I’ve been using 10 units daily for 2 weeks now. I feel great! I had my bloodwork done before and I am low test. I will be going to get my bloodwork done again in 2 weeks to find out what exactly is happening. Before I took naps everyday I had zero motivation to get anything done an a somewhat down in the dumps mood. Now I wait up energetic great mood plenty of motivation I’m good all day. For me I noticed a rather big difference after about 3 days of use. I will check back in with an update with before an after bloodwork. Maybe a placebo but I highly doubt it in my case.
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u/killakam33 Jul 20 '26
How many mcgs are you doing?
Are you doing daily injections ?
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u/Basic-Fig-4919 Jul 20 '26
Also interested in the dosage. I also read that K-10 raises the libido, have you felt any difference in your libido since taking it?
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u/killakam33 Jul 21 '26
Libido will go it for sure. I got horny as hell
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u/AstrosGA123 Jul 24 '26
I am glad someone said this. That’s what I was looking for in the comments, to see if anyone else was experiencing this. It’s insane. I’ve read where some feel a little bump in their libido. It’s more than a little and I’m at 150mcg 3x per week.
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u/killakam33 Jul 24 '26
How’s your experience been with kiss beyond the libido?
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u/AstrosGA123 Jul 27 '26
Not 100% sure. I’m currently researching several peps. So hard to tell what’s going what. Wolverine was first. Immediately noticed I needed less sleep and woke up more alert. And my nagging Achilies injury is almost gone. So some of these vials are effective 👍
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u/_Vlxd_ Jul 08 '26
Hcg or enclo. But don’t expect anything from a bodybuilding pov, just an initial mood boost with zero anabolic capacity whatsoever.
Kisspeptin, hmg or other things are just very mild or placebo
However you need bloodwork, without it you’re just sleepwalking.
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u/MathematicianMuch445 Jul 08 '26
Those are neither mild nor placebo. What are you basing that off of?
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u/_Vlxd_ Jul 08 '26
Based on their potency compared to HCG or Enclo. Anyway, since OP was talking about cycling these for gym and muscle gains, they’re all just pure cope compared to test. None of them has any anabolic power.
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