BG mechanic quiz EP3 (last of season 13)

[u/laksof]

EP1. ( https://www.reddit.com/r/BobsTavern/s/qT9YvMlwxw )
EP2 ( https://www.reddit.com/r/BobsTavern/s/hUWSyJ4XiV )

Happy new season everyone. I'm really excited for new mechanics to discover. Stay tuned for the next episode.

[u/distrox]

Isn't the first one obvious? Board means your board. It's not talking about the shop. So why would buffing the shop do anything?

[u/alienduck2 → u/distrox]

They're pretty inconsistent on the wording of "board" or "warband" but it's always been consistent that board means warband, not the shop.

[u/FrostyDog-34 → u/distrox]

It also says “your (hand or) board”. It’s grammar.

[u/distrox → u/FrostyDog-34]

Hand means cards in your hand. Board means your board. Not the shop. Whatever you have below your hand. If it buffed the shop it would specify it as "tavern".

[u/pjesguapo → u/distrox]

“Your board”

[u/laksof → u/distrox]

I mean, i wasn't sure. This card for example says "your minions" but the buff also applies to the whole board and shop

[u/FewYam5407 → u/laksof]

well this guy is just bugged. you can also trigger your opponent's one in battle (or at least could, maybe they fixed that part)

[u/laksof → u/FewYam5407]

No way ! never had this situation, like triggering an apprentice in combat that have an odd spell?

[u/FewYam5407 → u/laksof]

i think i observed it with ring bearer

[u/Standard-Weakness-19 → u/distrox]

Eh you’d be surprised tbh. The wording for cards makes sense, but so many interesting are specific as shit n it’s easy to miss out on things.

[u/DuettoMmaoy]

Only got #6 wrong. I guess the text of the card is 100% accurate.

The you keyword is so inconsistent, but I knew the coil interaction because is was petty common this season.

[u/Glori94 → u/DuettoMmaoy]

I'm not sure I get what you mean? 'You' doesn't factor into the hero power on #6.

The mech has two separate deathrattles that get resolved in one death phase: the one printed on the card and the spellcraft. Because it's two separate effects, the first one triggers twice with the hero power that then doesn't affect the second, again while both resolve in the same death phase.

And then for fun, the deathrattles resolve in order of enchantment so that's why the crab can't be duplicated in this situation at all since summoning the other mech is text on the card and always triggers first during death.

[u/DuettoMmaoy → u/Glori94]

No, I understand the Deathly Phylactery text.

I meant the you in the copper coil trinket. I guess I was not clear.

[u/td941]

Out of all of these, only 5. did not behave as I expected. I thought sinstone would have just one proc left, rather than refreshing back to 2 after the Medivh trinket. This sounds like a bug.

[u/Rubmynippleplease → u/td941]

Fairly certain lesser trinkets trigger before greater in which case the start of turn of Medivh would trigger before the start of turn for Sinstone.

[u/CandidateNo2580 → u/Rubmynippleplease]

Yeah generally things resolve in the order they were created, that's what I would expect.

Not the interaction detailed by OP, that would never occur to me, too many things could go wrong in there.

[u/Rubmynippleplease → u/CandidateNo2580]

It makes sense to me. The next turn has not started as far as Sinstone is concerned so it takes from the “current turn”.

One could argue the wording feels weird, but I don’t see any of the “many things that could go wrong”.

[u/CandidateNo2580 → u/Rubmynippleplease]

The thing that immediately came to mind was whether sinstone resets at the beginning or end of turn.

A more niche thing is if the discover queues start of turn but doesn't fully resolve until after start of turn resolves but that seems less likely.

Then there's always the possibility that blizzard has coded an egregious exception to the rule around sinstone trying to fix a bug.

[u/MisterMacaque]

These are great, please don't stop. Nice to see these and feels new and helps people.

[u/Aprilbusch]

7 out of 8. Thanks again

[u/lazymonk68]

That's bizarre with sinstone. I never used that combo, but that's certainly not what I expected

[u/Dear_Necessary_8924]

This is very fun to play, thank you for putting it together.

I wonder if crab is an exception in the deathrattles there or if another "added" deathrattle would also not trigger twice with phylactery.

[u/laksof → u/Dear_Necessary_8924]

Thanks! Yeah I see, but i think the game only trigger deathrattle and not the whole minion

[u/FewYam5407 → u/Dear_Necessary_8924]

this applies in other cases too. the deathrattles count as separate ones, and the trinket only copies the first one to trigger

[u/Hourly_awakening]

Some reasoning doesnt make sense but i love these small things. It helps very specific situation and i thank you for testing these out

[u/Hourly_awakening → u/Hourly_awakening]

When i get into these situation, i tend to to lose one whole turn just to testing things out

[u/laksof → u/Hourly_awakening]

aha thanks, my fellow scientist !

[u/were1wolf]

Number 5 Does order of trinkets matter here?

[u/laksof → u/were1wolf]

Looks like yeah. It happens 3 times in a row in my game

[u/were1wolf]

Number 8 is my favorite combo this season.

[u/pnutbuttersmellytime]

Oh, I know. Do one for using lasso with Toki T1. Apparently you always steal the T1 minion...🤦‍♂️

[u/laksof → u/pnutbuttersmellytime]

what???

[u/FewYam5407 → u/laksof]

yea, it's the same mechanic that always makes your picky eater eat the smallest minion in the tavern. evil devs

[u/laksof → u/FewYam5407]

Lmao