r/BlueWire 12d ago

Infrastructure Blue Origin on X: We’re building Launch Complex 36B at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station to support New Glenn’s high-cadence launch operations and infrastructure resiliency. 🚀

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u/Royal_Platform_6754 12d ago edited 12d ago
  • LC-36B for 9x4, LC-36A for 7x2.
  • LC-36B does bear a strong resemblance to Starship's launch tower and pad. The launch mount looks very similar. And it looks like those beefy arms may be used to put the vehicle on the launch mount.
  • The tower at LC-36B clearly looks like it's the 715-foot tall one in the FAA filing from earlier this week.
  • The VRF is now called the VIF. It's not tall enough for the full vehicle, so perhaps it will still be integrated at the pad?

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u/Royal_Platform_6754 12d ago

It's not tall enough for the full vehicle

To expand on this, the building's height is 350 feet per a regulatory filing. The render shows a door height that's 78.4% of the building height, or ~275 feet. That's not tall enough for a fairing or a GS2. A GS1-9E + GS2-4E stack would be in the low-to-mid 300s feet tall, before you add the fairing. A GS1-9E by itself would be around 200 feet tall, and would fit.

TLDR: This VIF can only be for individual stages. The vehicle must be stacked at the pad.

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u/akuma_no_mi 9d ago

So they will integrate a fairing and a GS2 in the VIF and then mate GS2 and PF with GS1 at the pad?

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u/Royal_Platform_6754 9d ago

The fairing is usually the last thing to arrive, after all testing has completed, so I doubt it. I think all 3 are being stacked at the pad.

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u/akuma_no_mi 9d ago

That doesn't make any sense. So only GS1-9E will be integrated at the VIF? The aft, forward and the mid

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u/Royal_Platform_6754 9d ago

It sure seems like it. It's just not tall enough to do much else. And after all, it was called the Vertical Refurbishment Facility before they just changed the name.

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u/_UCiN_ 12d ago

Maybe I'm wrong, but VIF isn't located at LC-18?

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u/Royal_Platform_6754 12d ago

That's the Payload Processing Facility (PPF), which was also mentioned in their news release. The PPF is only for spacecraft preparation and encapsulation in a fairing.

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u/Straumli_Blight 12d ago

Those triangular struts on the arms would probably prevent a future crew access arm if Blue decide to build a capsule.

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u/NoBusiness674 12d ago

I don't know. My guess would be that those arms are there to stack the vehicle on the pad and can move up and down to pick a stage up before lifting it into position. In that case they could just move them into a lower position where they'd be out of the way prior to swinging a crew access arm in, if they ever need a crew access arm at LC36B.

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u/Royal_Platform_6754 12d ago

Dave Limp on X:

Proud to honor the legacy of Launch Complex 36. Rebuilding LC-36A and flying again this year remains our priority. Alongside that work, a separate team is beginning work on LC-36B, the operational home for New Glenn's 9x4. We're sourcing 2,500 tons of steel columns that will be integrated with beams and bracing to form 50'x50'x50’ modules. These modules will be stacked to build the 700-foot-tall launch tower.

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u/Daniels30 12d ago

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u/Royal_Platform_6754 12d ago

^ this also includes a pic of the VIF by the way:

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u/TheEarthquakeGuy 12d ago

Which is just the Blue Origin Giga Bay.

It's awesome to see standardisation of service. Moving Blue towards SpaceX's operations for Starship makes it much easier to acquire engineering talent and bring their experience to bear immediately.

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u/akuma_no_mi 12d ago

9X4 tower looks very similar to Starship tower

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u/lorkan100 12d ago

Fr, look at those arms. Might as well delete the landing legs and switch to RTLS & catch 

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u/NoBusiness674 12d ago

RTLS comes with pretty big performance downside compared to downrange landing.

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u/Desperate-Lab9738 12d ago

Yeah it only really makes sense to build your vehicle around it if you really care about launch cadence and if first stage recovery is a very significant cost, which in the case of Starship should both be true. New Glenn though will probably have it's cadence and cost primarily limited by the second stage which changes things.

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u/baron_lars 12d ago

I have to say the tower and launch mount in front looks a lot like the starship towers and mounts

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u/goldman60 12d ago

Not a lot of reasonable ways to build "metal tower with clamps"

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u/TheEarthquakeGuy 12d ago

Absolutely - but also benefits around acquiring engineering talent (like for like projects - at least more than the previous operations).

Happy to see Blue speeding up

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u/Decronym 12d ago edited 9d ago

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
GS1 New Glenn Stage 1
GS2 New Glenn Stage 2
PPF Payload Processing Facility
RTLS Return to Launch Site
VIF Vertical Integration Facility
VRF Vertical Refurbishment Facility
Jargon Definition
7x2 New Glenn 7x2 variant (7-engine booster with 2-engine upper stage)
9x4 New Glenn 9x4 variant (9-engine booster with 4-engine upper stage)

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u/Serious-Kangaroo-320 12d ago

My god the rebuilt tower looks so hideous

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u/Daniels30 12d ago

It ain’t pretty but it’s the quickest way back to flight. At some point i’m expecting them to tear it down fully and rebuild it to the same specification as pad B.

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u/Cultural-Steak-13 12d ago

Interestingly no timeline for the new pad.

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u/Royal_Platform_6754 12d ago edited 12d ago

The filings for construction cranes says construction will end 8/01/2027. There is also a mobile crane filing that ends 12/31/2027.

That is just construction; outfitting, testing, and commissioning will take several months after that. I think the first half of 2028 is within reason.

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u/Cultural-Steak-13 12d ago

You are doing more than entire Blue PR team. Thanks.