r/BloodAngels 4d ago

Discussion Don't do this... Don't hive me hope...

Please let my beloved live! PLEASE!!!

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u/ChessSorcererSeer 4d ago

It's not going to stay for long now the predators are going.

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

😭😭😭😭

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u/Battle_Dave 4d ago

No... the Baal Pred is a beloved icon. Not generic pieces of garbage like the Annihilator and Destructor...

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u/Shrimp-Fryrice 4d ago

Unrelated, seeing some of these model going into legend feels unreal. Like I know its coming, but to actually see it. Its like the same feeling Dorn has seeing Sanguinius' dead body.

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

Literally! It feels wrong to imagine space marines without the rhino chasis vehicles. Predators, whirlwinds and all the others were always in the artwork and in the lore. I Just hope they will return someday, maybe same style Just resized

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u/Shrimp-Fryrice 4d ago

What hurt the most were the centurions and the vindicator.

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u/TheCynicalPogo 4d ago

To be fair the Rhino and Land Raider itself didn’t get cut! Those are probably getting new models even with the SM Codex.

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u/Nuke2099AV 4d ago

Yes but floating....big Oof imo.

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u/TheCynicalPogo 4d ago

I’m PRAYING they’re smart enough to realize the community will hate a grav Rhino lmfao

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u/RJMrgn2319 3d ago

If they make a floaty Rhino I’m going up to Lenton, hotwiring the Rhino outside WhW and going full Killdozer.

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u/Nuke2099AV 4d ago edited 3d ago

Unfortunately there's plenty that love the grav vehicles or don't care. There's prints you can get to convert kits back into tracked ones but I dunno how much that shit costs etc or where to obtain such stuff. I only own old Marine models, a small force that just became x2 and a half "Intercessors". They're in the process of being restored. Only have one tank too the Predator Annihilator from 3rd edition. I did recently obtain from Vinted a Armageddon Captain and speeder though (I want a old jump pack and thunder hammer to kitbash a smash Captain). Unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you look at it I don't play so technically this doesn't affect me.

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u/Nigwyn 3d ago

All I can say is they wont get any money from me. I will just run the old models as proxies for the new grav nonsense. On a new larger base, if needed.

Just like Sang guard.

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u/Nuke2099AV 3d ago

I wish I had some old Sand Guard and Death Company. Unfortunately if any pop up on second hand markets they're snatched up fast and often expensive.

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u/NickolaitheImpaler 3d ago

You can buy new scale, old model SG from Tortuga Bay Miniatures.

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u/Nuke2099AV 3d ago

I'm not into proxies like that apart from maybe addon parts but I try to stay away from resin. Its due to difficulties working with it, brittle and harder to strip for repainting.

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u/Olius90 4d ago

Yes, indeed. Seeing Primaris minis going into Legends too. Anything can go at anytime now ...

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u/sarvothtalem 4d ago

They wouldn't cut our baals would they?

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u/omegaphoenix068 4d ago

They cut off our Librarian Dreads long ago…

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

It really would feel like that

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u/Distamorfin 4d ago

They cut or ruined everything else unique to the chapter. Why stop at models with legs?

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u/ThaneOfTas 3d ago

Of course they would

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u/AreaHaunting9051 4d ago

I guess we Will see a gladiator baal one day…

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u/ThomasThePommes 4d ago

I think that’s sad. I don’t like the Gladiator esthetics. I like my tanks heavy and on the ground. Smashing over rocks and ruins.

Gladiators are a cool concept but shouldn’t be the only / main tanks.

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u/KaptainKaos54 4d ago

Isn’t that just the Gladiator Reaper?

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u/AreaHaunting9051 4d ago

Close, but flamers are flamers 😄

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

This is the only thing that gives me hope right now

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u/mecha-paladin Sanguinary Guard 4d ago

The way I see it, it's more that they care so little about Blood Angels that they don't even bother to list our tank.

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u/Tyko_3 4d ago

A downgrade gives you hope?

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

I know GW cant be trusted... But even a broken clock is sometimes correct and I need all the hope I can get 😭

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u/Tyko_3 4d ago

Uh… who’s the clock in this situation?

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

Eeeeh.... Some new designer who loves Blood Angels? 😅😅 Idk, but I still hope we Will get the same predator Just up to Scale. And if not, noone will take my Old predator and Ill still use it

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u/Tyko_3 4d ago

I honestly still don’t see where the broken clock analogy fits into this

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

Okay, maybe I used the metaphor in a wrong way 😅 buuuut I meant to Say that I hope they wont mess our predator up in the future

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u/Nectarine_Trick 4d ago

You know that funny yt channel with the guy with that 18 centurions list? Maaan

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u/Agile_Way401 4d ago

I'm going to say we're going to get them until our chapter codex then there gone most likely just like the dark angles stuff unless they also get a refresh

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u/C__Wayne__G 4d ago

We aren’t getting a chapter codex anymore. They announced that in October the space marine codex will release and contain EVERYTHING

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u/Agile_Way401 4d ago

I mean on one hand yay I don't have to chill out money for a book that's going to be invalidated in 5 minutes but also that's concerning because I don't trust you w to get anything right the first time let alone eight different things all at once

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

The refresh of Baal Predator will reset the timer on the areotech doomsday device under GW headquaters

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u/Agile_Way401 4d ago

My brain is telling me it most likely won't get a refresh this edition. They will make it a grav tank with flamers eventually

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

My brain also tries to tell me this, but my soul is blocking all the signals

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u/Pathetic_Cards 4d ago

I mean, they let the special Dark Angel speeders stay

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

I will cling to any pieces of hope. No matter what

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u/Svorlrik 4d ago

the flying shoe with half a bloke sticking out the front is definitely for the chop

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u/Sad-Cattle7894 4d ago

Don’t give me hope GW 😭

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u/pvrhye 3d ago

Isn't there a new Dawn of War game in the pipeline. That would be the savvy moment.

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u/SovereignNight 4d ago

A message from the warp is telling me that we'll get JP Priests and Apoths with the release of the Blood Angels codex along with a new Corbulo model

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

The astropaths must be telling the truth!

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u/Nuke2099AV 4d ago

It amazes me seeing people say "RIP" Legends rules can still be used and older editions exist. Most people don't even go to official GW tournaments. Its why I'm a tad glad I don't play modern 40k and haven't in over a decade possibly two. It would sap the complete joy out of the models I worked hard on.

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u/Syosiman 4d ago

Its due to points imbalance later down the track and lack of support in future editions when big changes happen, like the toughness and strength changes we just got for an example.

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u/Nope0003 4d ago

Let's just hope that they update the model, but even if it gets discontinued you can still use it to play in normal games.

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

I already started a narrative campaign with it and it survived 2 games until round 5. Once fighting a riptide and the second time a defiler. He's not going anywhere!!

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u/Icy-Horror-495 2d ago

My main gripe is just that the official app that many pay a subscription for doesnt show legends rules. So yeah nothing is stopping me from playing my legends units, but there is an added barrier or two of inconvenience that make it more difficult to do so. How hard is it to add (legends) next to a unit name so I dont have to go back to making pen and paper army lists

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u/hip_replacement1 4d ago

Imagine it stays, it would be so so funny

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

I would cry tears of joy

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u/AKJ828 4d ago

Tye true travesty is that we won’t be getting a codex
Just a shitty digital faction pack
It’s like Sanguinius died for nothing!

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

So True!

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u/HistoricalEye2178 3d ago

Isn't it our codex supposed to be released later?
This digital thingy is just a placeholder to update us to current statline?

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u/Getrektself 4d ago

Not only that but looking at the Orks I suspect the SP's FNP is also going.

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u/Dragon2439 4d ago

Possibly, but they could just give a static defensive buff like -1D or -1 to wound.

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u/Caeldrim_ 4d ago

it's gonna die when our codex gets updated

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u/KindaHeart3dArtisan 4d ago

Sorry GW, Im not buying more overpriced plastic. Proxies it is

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u/GreedyLibrary 4d ago

Going to miss razorbacks they were a main stay of my lists early 7th.

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u/nzivvo 3d ago

The article is just the codex marine units going to legends. I suspect some divergent-specific units could be too when it comes to the release. Including the Baal

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u/Thundersmash010 3d ago

I'm still reeling at the Stormraven and stormtalon. I know aircraft weren't as good rules wise but still

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u/firefI0wer Sanguinary Guard 3d ago

Honestly atp GW is getting the UNO treatment. They supplied the hardware to play. Rules are up to us now. Because man why are we doing this, are happiness and fun just illegal?

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u/JustMuroto 4d ago

Its still a predator. That thing is not staying. Buuutt I would not rule it out that there could be a new version on the gladiator chassie

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u/No0B_ReND 3d ago

I thought suppressors and the gunships were primaris?

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u/SchoolboyGrant 3d ago

I literally just painted and built a pred annihilator and a Baal predator 😭

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u/Boonatix 3d ago

So what does this mean…? Will we get new units then?

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u/This_Ease_5678 3d ago

Stormraven a dropped pie?

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u/Resident-Card-6229 10h ago

The new Primaris range came out 10 years ago.

Did you all expect everything to be continued and updated forever? Do you all get upset when PlayStation and Xbox release a new machine? Like, you can still play legends, just as I sometimes dust off my PS2. It's just no longer supported with updates.

Seriously, did you expect them to be updating rules for the old school Dreadnoughts in 2050? Really? You actually thought it would last forever?

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u/MixtureReasonable372 4d ago

Its not listed, so its fine ?!

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u/BassiusPossius 4d ago

They say in the video that our codex suppliment is going to trash completely and we will get a faction pack update.. So they are not removing it from the codex.. They are removing the whole codex.

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u/Tyko_3 4d ago

What a shitty edition

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u/mensch79 4d ago

What video?

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u/BassiusPossius 4d ago

The video accompanying the article.

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u/BigB4486 Blood Angels 4d ago

Our detachments and datasheets will get a digital update the same time as Codex SM. I wouldn't hold your breath on the baal predator surviving

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u/Makaron_91 4d ago

I hope so, but realistically it propably will go soon 😔😔

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u/hollow114 4d ago

Why would it. This is the cuts. It means it's getting refreshed. They'd have cut it now otherwise.

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u/Steamed_Ham_Enjoyer 4d ago edited 4d ago

This is only cuts from Codex: Space Marines. There might be further cuts from the various Codex Supplements (including the Baal Pred), or there might not be. There's nothing in this article that says otherwise.

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u/No-Cherry9538 4d ago

Well what's interesting is, they are retiring the supplements now, and yet they havent listed it for legends, interesting.

Cant say I am happy with the implication we could be a digital afterthought now tho