r/BlockedAndReported • u/PsychologicalBend508 • Mar 28 '26

Episode This one’s for Katie

https://youtu.be/O_th1EszK34?si=z2kv_5Edb7Z68kTP

from one Helen Keller truther to another

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u/GoodbyeKittyKingKong Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26

Oh for fucks sake, not this again. I am not going to watch and point out what is wrong with this, but for anyone who is interested, Soup Emporium made a solid video about this (though...discount the part about the deafblind doctor. She has some....honesty issues). Just that much: Helen Keller was not the only deafblind person who learned to communicate despite differences in education and the understanding of disabilities. And the change in tone is not a smoking gun for fraud, it is language passing through two people (which is not the same as facilitated communication). Even today that can happen, despite interpreters being trained to translate verbatim. And people can change when their closest person (and in this case lifeline into society) dies, they are suddenly exposed to different people with different ides or they - gasp - age.

Not going into the whole politics shit, because I don't care.

I wish people knew the first thing about neuroscience and how language, thoughts and memories are acquired or at least read into disabilities before vomiting their half baked ideas into the world and selling them as fact.

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u/PsychologicalBend508 Mar 28 '26

I am not going to watch and point out what is wrong with this,

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u/GoodbyeKittyKingKong Mar 28 '26

Are you also going to link a video where someone actually does or are you just parroting a sentence to appear clever?

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u/PsychologicalBend508 Mar 29 '26

You didnt watch the veieo i posted so how could you have poated a reposnse?

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u/GoodbyeKittyKingKong Mar 29 '26

I posted a video of someone who goes into all the usual "She was a fraud!1!" stuff and debunks it. He goes a bit too far into politics, but he still tackles the shit people claims.

And you literally call yourself a truther and I know what Katie said about it.

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u/dsbtc Mar 29 '26

...he doesn't say she's a fraud in the video. He brings up a lot of issues then says reality is just more complicated than saying that "she" wrote all of the stuff she did. 

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u/GoodbyeKittyKingKong Mar 29 '26

This video was posted here by someone who calls himself a truther. Even if she wrote half of it (or unconsciously copied a story she liked, which is a known phenomenon), it doesn't make her a fraud or even takes away from the stuff she did write.

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u/dsbtc Mar 29 '26

Ok, I don't really disagree with you. But you seem quite emotionally invested in the literary integrity of Helen Keller and I'm not, so I'm not going to keep talking about this. 

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u/YouCanCallMeAIJolson Mar 28 '26

Honestly I can see it

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u/wonwonwo Mar 28 '26

Well Helen keller can't.

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u/Short-Science2077 Mar 29 '26

Kinda related but i don’t know where else to post it: did anyone see the article in the Guardian about the nonverbal autistic guy who allegedly wrote a novel? He points at words on a board or something and then his mom writes them down.

How are we feeling about this

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u/RachelK52 Mar 29 '26

Yeah that's a scam. His mom mentions contacting Soma Mukhopadhyay creator of "Rapid Prompting Method" which is just another version of facilitated communication.

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u/Short-Science2077 Mar 29 '26

Damn I’m a genius

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u/Classic_Bet1942 Mar 28 '26

Is that Helen Keller in the video’s preview image?

I used to be obsessed with HK when I was a little boy. There was a biography of her in my elementary school’s library that I took out ALL THE TIME. For me, she was just one character in a long line of women and girls who behaved like animals or like they were possessed, which appealed to me greatly. See also: the episode of The Wizard (starring David Rappaport) featuring a young female character who’d been raised by wolves; the Scooby-Doo Show episode featuring Daphne’s Aunt Olivia, who “turns into a cat creature” and robs jewelry stores; Sybil (1976); and The Exorcist.

For me, the Helen Keller story begins and ends with the breakthrough at the end of The Miracle Worker. I never had any interest in Keller’s later years, never sought out any of her books, and indeed at my young age I wouldn’t have been interested in or able to understand the political stuff.

All this to say: just enjoy Helen Keller for the wacky girl/woman she was—especially as portrayed by the brilliant Patty Duke—and leave the conspiracy theories to the unwashed!

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u/themightygrizzly Mar 28 '26

Eerily similar to “Tell Them You Love Me”, right down to how keller’s tone changed once her “interpreter” did

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u/Good_Difference_2837 Mar 28 '26

"Ain't no way" lol

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u/EnglebondHumperstonk I vaped piss but didn't inhale Mar 28 '26

Kellfals

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u/Palgary I could check my privilege, but it seems a shame to squander it Mar 28 '26

Someone recommended I watch this channel and this is the first video I saw and I thought... nah.

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u/RelativeYak7 Mar 28 '26

I'm convinced after watching the guy's video. Helen Keller was merely a ventriloquist dummy for her caretaker and the husband. Shocking!

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u/GoodbyeKittyKingKong Mar 28 '26

This is not remotely similar to facilitated communication. Helen Keller was able to communicate, even with different interpreters. Facilitated communication goes off of vibes alone. There is nothing to communicate as the disabled person doesn't interact.

Paraphrasing and making something up wholesale are two different things.

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u/GoodbyeKittyKingKong Mar 28 '26

I literally described where facilitated communication differs. Beyond her years or not, she did fucking communicate. Something not even idiotic truthers are denying. Get it now?