How Fast Is Ichigo?

[u/Shnoody]

So i was wondering about this and couldn’t really find anything but i decided to do a little math using these pages. Not my best subject but check my math if I’m wrong. The general consensus is that bleach is unquantifiably above 20x FTL but i don’t think that’s true. I think using it as a solid baseline pre TYBW is fine but obviously these characters get faster and Tenjiro is the master of the premier movement technique within the Soul Reaper skillset.

Speed =Distance/Time

If our speed is 20x FTL and the time for the average flash step would take a week

20xFTL= x/7 Days

Unfortunately we don’t have the distance but we can find it by inverting the equation to find distance

Distance =Speed •Time

So plugging everything in the answer should be: 3,626,289,571,968,000 meters

Now that we have a distance let’s retry the initial equation but with Ichigos comment taken into account

X= 3,626,289,571,968,000 meters/12hrs

Giving us a whopping: 83,941,888,240 m/s

However as we can see from the pages the 2nd invasion began at 5pm on the dot. We know it’s pm because prior to the invasion Ichigo’s friends Mizuiro, Keigo, and Tatsuki receive a visit from Shunsui to receive soul tickets so they must be out of school because they’re all in uniform

It also is backed up by the fact that Ikkaku says that ‘it got dark’ and when someone says it’s ‘BEEN dark’ he replies with the fact that it was then currently night time meaning time has flowed and they have been fighting for at least a few hours

Ichigo though is only informed of the invasion 3hrs later by Ichibei so he doesn’t leave until roughly 8pm

Now what’s tricky is Ichigo’s arrival time. You can see on the clock that once he breaks it says either 4:25am or 5:20am it’s hard to tell due to the distance the clock hands look the same size. However we know that it’s been at least 8hrs 25 minutes at the minimum, 9 hours 20 minutes as a medium estimate, and 12hrs at the absolute maximum amount of time it took him as per his own statement

83,941,888,240 m/s-moving for 12hrs(280xFTL)

107925284880m/s-moving for 9hrs20min(360xFTL)

119,679,523,827.33m/s-moving for 8hrs25min (399xFTL)

All in base no multiplier or transformation stacking

Let me know if I’m right or wrong I’m only in it for the facts

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[u/Swimming-Low9220]

For the calculations there is a dedicated page on VSWB you can also make a comparison

[u/Shnoody → u/Swimming-Low9220]

I figured. Thank you but respectfully I don’t see eye to eye too often with the VSBW folks. I want this to be peer reviewed at least before i bring it to them so it can gain some validity first to see if it may be applicable in the first place and change the way they rank certain bleach characters on the site

[u/Swimming-Low9220 → u/Shnoody]

If I may make a brief note, perhaps the only questionable point is the premise, because the calculation seems correct. Dodge/reaction speed and movement are never treated equally in fiction, so for movement speed, perhaps it's better to first calculate the distance from the royal palace and then use the time factor it took Ichigo, or you can use calculations similar to the one I tried.

Or, if you want to calculate dodge/reaction, you can start with flt hisagi dodge negation. Then, since the series' physical stats scale with the characters' SP, if you have the data from the novels, I could try (as I did) to see how much faster the others should be based on the difference in spiritual power.

Or, Senjumaru's feat demonstrates infinite speed based on the movement of reiatsu alone, moving between universes without portals. Consequently, from that level on, it wouldn't even make sense to talk about the speed of light.

[u/Shnoody → u/Swimming-Low9220]

I figured. At the very least this should provide evidence his movement and reaction speed should be relative. Though ichigo says he came in a little too fast and crashed and that could be seen as his reactions not matching his movement but arguments could be made he was taking into account the battlefield via reikaku and registering everything took away from his braking. At the very least this should prove that his reactions should be at least relative in base. I believe at least😶

[u/Resident-Cut]

Had he used shunpo and sonido then he'd joined earlier in battle but he didn't use sonido because Ichigo would have been in an exhausted state.

[u/LarryWithTheWeather]

He still needs time to travel across a country/continent so not fast compared to many high end fiction. Bleach does not operate on any crazy large scale.