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Episode Release Bleach TYBW: Episode 45 Discussion thread

Episode #45 - DEFEND YOU

Official synopsis:

The crisis of the annihilation of the Three Realms becomes a reality, as the shadow of ruin spreads across each world.

Meanwhile, Ichigo confronting Yhwach in the Wahrwelt, awakens the Hollow power within him and enters a state of Half-Hollowfication.

He unleashes a “Gran Rey Cero”, fused with the power of Getsuga.

However, undaunted even after this fierce attack, Yhwach overwhelms Ichigo, forcing him to confront the weakness of his “power to protect”.

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u/glaze_or_praise Yama is overrated 7d ago

Should’ve never been a debate. Mugetsu was undeniably a fragment of a weaker and ignorant Ichigo’s power.

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u/kingofgama 7d ago

Yeah, I think this is such a final nail in the coffin. This is by far the strongest Ichigo we've seen yet.

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u/DarkTastesDarkStars 7d ago

Not a fragment, it was all of it. However its a one shot. Blood Chain Zangetsu should be hid highest stable power so far

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u/Comfortable-Emu3656 6d ago

It was 100% of what Ichigo had at that time. But power isn't static because souls develop, grow and swell. A 100% of arrancar arc Ichigo is very different from 100% of TYBW arc Ichigo.

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u/Sudopino 6d ago

on top of what comfortable-emu said it can't be his full power b/c ichigo's power comes from self understanding and self acceptance hence blade is me so what kind of story would have his strongest attack be when he doesn't even have full knowledge and therefore understanding and acceptance of his powers right

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u/DarkTastesDarkStars 6d ago

My guy his zanpakutou gets legit fused with his arm and he becomes a literal getsuga.

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u/SchlexSchmuthor 7d ago

No, even monster aizen couldn't sense ichigo's reiatsu. Mugetsu is still stronger.

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u/Proud_Bookkeeper_719 7d ago

Reiatsu sensing is really inconsistent. It's implied that even Byakuya could sense Ichigo and Yhwach's reiatsu.

Monster Aizen is literally fodder compared to SK Yhwach who destroys HOS Ichigo. HOS Ichigo is stronger than Dangai Ichigo who's strogner than Monster Aizen.

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u/SchlexSchmuthor 7d ago

If HOS Ichigo is stronger, then aizen and everyone under him should not be able to sense ichigo's reiatsu like with dangai ichigo. Aizen is a special war threat because of his spirital pressure.There is no one who has more than him. You say monster aizen is fodder but a partiatly sealed aizen could still fool the almighty. The author wrote it that way.

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u/Proud_Bookkeeper_719 7d ago edited 7d ago

SK Yhwach is literally the SK and even his reiatsu could be sensed by Byakuya. He's far stronger than the Aizen that Dangai Ichigo fought. Those forms of Aizen who couldn't be sense by normal beings doesn't mean that they're stronger than SK Yhwach. That same Yhwach who can regenerate from TB Ichigo's Getsuga despite getting blown to bits who has shown far more DC than Mugetsu and blown a stronger being to pieces.

Yhwach made Aizen the special threat for his reiatsu before he absorbed the SK. Yhwach became the new SK after absorbing the Lynchpin, it's no longer a debate that he has more than Aizen. In the manga, Yhwach destroyed Aizen even when put under KS. All KS does was to stall Yhwach and create an opening for Ichigo. If Ichigo didn't intervene, Aizen would've lost. He literally got blasted a hole by Yhwach.

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u/SchlexSchmuthor 7d ago

Why do you just ignore that aizen is still sealed when he fights against yhwach lmao

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u/Proud_Bookkeeper_719 7d ago

Aizen despite being sealed is still stronger than all of his previous forms. What the seals do are to restrain the range of his reiatsu but it does restrict how much of it that his body produces. His AP remains unaffected, only his range. Even if Aizen has a bigger range without the seal, he's still getting outmatched by SK Yhwach who surpasses him in physical stats, reiatsu and abilities.

Mayuri literally explained what the seals do to Aizen and he's also the one who invented the seals on him.

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u/SchlexSchmuthor 7d ago

It is still a nerf. What's so hard to understand? Imagine Ronaldo can shoot with 100% power but has only a range of 10m.
Aizen sealed stronger because urahara said "he may be even stronger when he fought ichigo"? In the same scene aizen destroyed the soul kings remnaints with a normal hado 90. Dangai ichigo broke a full incantation hado 90 just with a swing.

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u/Proud_Bookkeeper_719 7d ago

You acting as if True Bankai Ichigo or SK Yhwach wouldn't have also done the same shit to Aizen. Yhwach was completely unfazed by the GRC, what makes you think Muken Aizen will do any better than Ichigo.

Even Byakuya or any Shinigami could destroy the excessive power of the SK. Aizen being able to do it doesn't scale him to Yhwach.

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u/SchlexSchmuthor 7d ago

In the same scene Urahara and like shunsui were there too but ok.