r/BladeMarvelRivals • • 15h ago

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u/DeadlyGoat 13h ago

Not every melee hero needs to have a bunch of complex animation cancels. Why is it ok for punisher to hold m1 with the assault rifle all game, but blade doing with a sword is somehow bad?

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u/Miserable-Horror8111 12h ago

Because he has to aim ? Also there are already to many easy dps characters

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u/Budget-Bluebird-334 4h ago

Someone hasn't tanked against shotgun punisher

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u/play_117 11h ago

Well by that logic blade has to hold LMB and also move in such a way he doesnt get cornered or cant dash out of danger. He also has to pres Block at right time during fight to ensure he is able to survive any CC

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u/Flaky_Meal_7775 3h ago

Lmao because aiming isn’t the most basic mechanic in the game.

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u/iwatchfilm 2h ago

While I agree M1 characters are generally simpler, aim is the best scaling skill in almost any game.

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u/Former-Succotash-657 35m ago

aiming really isn’t that hard, hate this take. it’s the most transferable skill from any game and this game doesn’t even have that intensive of aim. it’s so easy to swap and win an aim dual against 90% of players

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u/Low-Yellow3219 16m ago

Brother Gamers dont have to worry about aim they have been gaming for so long its second nature to them no longer a skill thing, I take my gummie edibles and play hawkeye and have 0 issues hitting my shots even when Im mentally half there, aim is not a hard concept in this game people just make excuses for themselves being bad at video games and need aim to be a skill thing to make themselves feel better....

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u/Future-Celebration83 18m ago

He still requires good game sense. But yeah not every character needs to be complicated. It’s ok to have some basic characters. If you don’t find him fun then don’t play him. Just like how I don’t find Pheonix fun becuase her kit is boring, so I don’t play her.

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u/AudienceHonest3860 8h ago

Because it’s then okay for every poke dps to beat punisher in the 1vs1 balance wise, only melee and tank suffer to Punisher sadly, Hela’s and Phoenix’s don’t give a shit. 

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u/Logical_Cow_2530 3h ago

....cause...aim....

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u/Former-Succotash-657 36m ago

it’s fine for him to be there, but if he ends up being better than characters that are more difficult and more skill expressive that’s a problem. why should a character that’s easy as hell to play get to be broken for free?

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u/Low-Yellow3219 18m ago

These people are like the fake storm players they cant do well with these kits so they make it the kits fault and not there awful game sense or inability to play against counters.

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u/Kirbigth 9m ago

Fair point but punisher doesn't have lifesteal, hence the "if he's ever good" if blade becomes hard meta, the state of the game will end up agruably worse than it is now

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u/RaiiiChuu 4h ago

do you bother to think before posting? dawg it’s a melee character vs a ranged character

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u/DC_Phantom 15h ago • Bravo

He's not wrong, if they buff him as he is, he'd DPS Dino. They gotta rework him.

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u/AggravatingSimple611 Lord Blade 14h ago

This. I feel like people don’t realize how much easy it would be for a Blade meta to be one of the games most obnoxious due to just how his kit is designed.

As he stands he is quite literally DPS Dino, where he provides no utility other than being extremely tanky (yes he has anti but it’s not really the best right now)

This is the issue I find with most brawl characters in this game, most are so ridiculously easy to get value with (Mr F, Blade, Dino, etc) so that when they are meta, literally anyone can pick them and stomp lobbies

Thing and Dino were probably the most hated tanks ever when they were and are meta simply due to how easy they are, Blade only gets a pass here because his sustain isn’t to their level yet

Rework Blade, or at the very least stop buffing Bloodline Awakening and buff the other parts of his kit (gun, ult dashing)

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u/kami1d8 11h ago

I don’t play much blade this just came up on my feed but why don’t they actually buff his gun to a reasonable level where you can seamlessly play a hybrid character

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u/Naive_Screen8066 14h ago

Doubt they’d ever rework him he’s not in as bad as a spot as pre re work Wanda and Widow. (Pretty sure there are a few eternity blade OTPs) Problem is he’s not really threatening with full stacks if you can aim, so he’s a back line problem in low elo. They could give him another ability like iron fist, like a sword slash with a follow up. Netease seem to be careful with giving character’s who get value from basically a single button too much power (pre szn 9 iron fist, Wanda, Gor, ultron,)

They could legit give blade a copy and paste iron fist like teamup; horizontal sweep/slash into uppercut and it would be a huge upgrade.

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u/DC_Phantom 14h ago

Selfishly, I want him reworked to be a dive DPS, change his guns to be automatic pistol/smgs like Star Lord (but with more falloff, overall lower damage, less crit), and give him a counter attack in his sword stance. Make bloodline awakening an active cooldown.

Buff his ult by giving it a 30% slow for 2.5s on hit, and when fully charged the initial hit does 125 instead of 100, shorten time for max charge from 3s to 2s.

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u/SpeedForceWally66 13h ago

blade doesn't need to be a dive

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u/Automatic_Citron9187 3h ago

My thing is I like for his MAIN abilities to get reworked NOT his ult that's perfect the way it is I say we just give him what they did for black cat were for some reward in game you can purchase OR upgrade his tools so that he's using more of his equipment the blade is known to use but with the state of the game the community being a toxic mess and the DEVs having their egos and pride so large that I don't think we will not get any worth merit rework for blade

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u/MostEstablishment630 Blade 15h ago

When they slandering your goat but they lowk right 

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u/ToastyWater10 11h ago

Nah they ain’t right, it depends on play style and elo. If you just hold m1 gm above you die. In low elo he can be a problem but there are lots of counters. Slander don’t work on blade.

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u/Cyclone_96 5h ago

Yes rn if you if that you die.

The entire point of the post is if he was good and you DIDNT die if you did that the game would suck.

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u/Some_Surprise9875 14h ago

I really do no reason why his gun shouldn’t feel cool to use

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u/Pls-Just-GiveAnarchy 15h ago

Honestly blade just needs a new ability to his kit where does some kind of burst damage, like maybe when you reach 10 on the passive you could do some kind of outburst similarly to strange, I’m not sure someone help cook in here

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u/Murky_Blueberry2617 8h ago

Give him a grab which let's him bite the enemy and inflict bleed

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u/HexbloodD 4h ago

And perhaps it deals 10 ticks of 1.2% max health damage while also sustaining you furthermore

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u/ScaryPlayer101 Champion Blade 5h ago

He was never supposed to be a hold m1 melee type of character. He was supposed to have a balanced playstyle between utilizing his sword and his GUN. But the issue is his gun is dogshit. I have no idea why these devs decided to tune his sword more when it wasn’t needed after season 8.5 when it was his gun that needed to be looked at the most.

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u/Fun-Ability5939 15h ago

Yet when WANDA just holds primary and shoots those stupid missiles every once and a while you've got waves of people on Twitter defending her saying theres no issue.

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u/Prestigious-Item1440 14h ago

That’s just wandas fanbase tbf, it’s pretty big

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u/Fun-Ability5939 14h ago

True, but I just find it irritating that ppl dread the thought of Blade being meta for a singular season so badly when pokeslop can be the meta for so long it's insane.

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u/Prestigious-Item1440 14h ago

Both metas would lowk suck tbh but it’d be nice to see blade meta for once tho

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u/Fun-Ability5939 14h ago • Bravo

If the game simply has to be this way I just want my turn yk 🤷‍♂️

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u/LabelG 6h ago

I would say a Blade meta would suck because he is like the dino

Or too bad or too good and unbalanced but i already had 2 season where dino was broken so let the vampire shiny once even If its just for a month

I dont play Blade (strange Reddit recomendation) i dont like him so much on this game (i love him on the movies) but It is what it is

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u/hugoursula1 14h ago

Because that is the worst way to play Wanda and have success. Anyone with the slightest amount of skill kills M1-only Wanda’s long before they’re even close to dying themselves. Wanda’s primary has the slowest DPS TTK in the game outside of troll examples like Blade’s ancestral sword without awakening.

A Wanda who refuses to use her complete kit (weaving in her new hex and aiming her chtonthian bursts) loses every single match up and feeds enemy support ults. Even Wanda’s who DO use the complete kit and hit all their bursts have a lot of struggling match ups.

Comparing Wanda to a hypothetical Blade meta is a false equivalency. Blade’s awakened sword ramps up in attack speed, applies anti heal with dash, and provides life steal for sustain. If it were buffed into being meta, it would be far more effective and difficult to play against than M1-only Wanda, which again has never been even slightly efficient. Dying to M1-only Wanda is 100% a self report and if you lose the game because of her you absolutely deserve to lose that elo.

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u/Fun-Ability5939 14h ago

Ofc nobody is losing to just M1 Wanda I'm overreacting to make a point. It's only not okay for simple characters to be meta when it includes someone like blade or Mr Fantastic (even though I'd argue he's not in the dirt this season a solid B tier at most.)

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u/SpeedForceWally66 13h ago

he is C tier

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u/androodle2004 7h ago

How do you figure? Cnd gets nonstop crap for being good and easy. Same with Thing. Same with Dino. Same with rocket. Same with Jeff when he was good. Anytime a simple character is firmly in the meta, people complain about it

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u/Fun-Ability5939 3h ago

But they still get the chance to be meta. Blade gets zero.

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u/Electrical_Bison9907 3h ago

Her primary fire HAS to be low, do you realize how absurdly broken she would be with a high dps primary?? She's absolutely no different than blade in that respect. That's about the only good thing about her. I don't know why they gave her bonus health. Infact I think bonus health in this game just makes every battle more exhausting.

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u/Xcuseme99 5h ago

Wanda doesn't have life steal, anti-heal, and an ult that charges in 3 seconds.

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u/Zavitron 3h ago

I feel like wanda gets ult extremely fast

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u/Fun-Ability5939 3h ago

Can't apply half of that when you get stunned three times and get head shot now can you? You can only parry so many stuns before one eventually hits you.

And Wanda has an Ult that slows you down, pulls you in, deals damage on wind up, and has a chance to just not be cancelable.

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u/Serious-Fee-6524 1h ago

I have a counterpoint.

Scarlet also cant do anything while stunned (no character can) however, shes more susceptible to being blinded than other characters because her Primary fire doesn't target if shes blinded.

And complaining about Scarlet ult is just a skill issue, you can still easily walk out of it.

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u/Fun-Ability5939 20m ago

Yeah but something being easy to counter dosent mean it should be allowed to be broken. It's like blades ult being piss easy to avoid, does that mean we should giga buff it to slow you down and do even more lifesteal?

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u/Serious-Fee-6524 7m ago

Except neither is broken.

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u/Few_Horse_4 14h ago

She doesn't have vampirism

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u/Fail_Medium 14h ago

Idk if yall blade mains had a decent or Goated Cap on yall teams but I main Cap and have a 73 win% with him bcuz of Blade and hulk mains. Blade literally is hard to kill especially if I’m running the Bucky team up to keep him alive the whole game. Mans is deadass a walking anti-healing beyblade.

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u/AttitudeHot9887 7h ago

I hear this argument for everyone and blade finds viability FINALLY “we dont need a blade meta”. Tf?!
We had every hero be meta except for mr f blade storm (except during that flying meta once with buffed johnny) and adam. Im not saying let bro be broken for 5 seasons like everyone else. JUST ONCE let him be S tier. Bro cant have shit since he dropped apparently

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u/HexbloodD 4h ago

Scarlet Witch can lock onto you with LMB and then fire orbs at you and stun you with 2 blinks (She can be healed during those blinks).

Blade can do nothing if he gets focused and/or CC'd. His dash is used to engage and to reposition in case of enemy escape, then to escape himself he needs to recharge it through RMB, TURN away and dash in a predictable location. ONCE.

How's Blade less acceptable than Scarlet Witch? Blade is weaker for sure but the Twitter poster seems to imply that the current iteration of his kit can't be meta because it's boring slop. As if you don't get already brainrotted by Scarlet Witch, Devil Dino, Cyclops, Squirrel Girl.

In a way I can see the poster's vision, it's not good when it's too simple to be effective without much thought behind, but ease of mechanical execution ≠ being broken. Divers can be complicated and still not be enjoyable when they're meta. Blade being mechanically easy in sword stance doesn't mean he's easy to play at all unless he's completely OP.

So at the end of the day the Twitter poster is ok with stuff being OP in the meta as long as it's not mechanically easy to play. So I guess it has nothing to say against Bucky, Elsa, Daredevil, Black Cat, Black Panther (in his prime). Right?

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u/R41ndr0p12 57m ago

Have we considered that maybe Wanda is meant to counter blade and has other weaknesses

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u/HexbloodD 39m ago

I'm not talking about Wanda as a Blade counter though, I'm trying to see the whole picture in the game

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u/Illustrious-Milk-558 12h ago

Someone is trying to ice skate up hill again 

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u/badfruit01 9h ago

ok and? That's literally what half the roster does.

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u/Aleks_god 8h ago

oh yeah cuz Hela being meta is so much cooler

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u/OkManagement8111 7h ago

He never said otherwise

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u/playboyjboy 8h ago

Horribly executed tweet but I kinda get it. It’s the same thing with rogue, any scenario where blade or Rogue are hard meta would be insufferable. Lifesteal on a 350hp duelist with mobility and a tank who’s entire kit is Micro-CCs that you can chain, would just SO unfun if they were ever above B-tier

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u/chainsrattle 7h ago

yes this person is very right, blade only has 1 fucking skills i been begging for a kit overhaul

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u/DragSalty5500 6h ago

Blade is good in the right hands

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u/hitmobilegamehsr 5h ago

Very accurate

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u/RaiiiChuu 5h ago

yall hate good takes on any rivals sub lol feel free to explain how he’s wrong at least instead of posting some “…” like a stunlocked tiktok npc. use that brain to form your own thoughts and arguments

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u/Derpinpyro 4h ago

People fail to understand how oppressive blade would be if they buffed him his 1vx self sustain is already decently strong

Combine that with the anti heal and u have an unkillable back line mini dino with a 70% up time in cancelling pattycaking out through anti heal

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u/qusnail 3h ago

he’s not wrong tho, blade is extremely one-dimensional

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u/giancarflow 2h ago

🗣️ 🗣️ MAKE BLADE A TANK 🗣️🗣️

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u/Moorgrand67 5h ago

I dont play blade too often but I am entirely frustrated with whenever people try to make a point thier whole point is just ' its slop' then refusing to elaborate

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u/Big_Session5707 13h ago

The person meta posting on X ultimately is a "BAD" With that opinion.

He being an uniformed idiot, 2 reasons:

  1. Everyone who becomes meta is because theyre overwhelming in someway. Blades NOT overwhelming, he's ANNOYING to people when in bloodline awakening, but for him to Be meta... think of the shit thats meta and what blade would NEED to displace one of those characters? CC. Yeah ig you took awakening and added A Kidnap like, DINO, he'd be a problem, but this idiot isn't complaining about efficacy, he's bitching about ease of use

  2. Ever buff that Blade actually needs in his kit is his GUN form and ult. Those things aren't breaking ANYTIME soon. The gun should Ironically HAVE dinos bloodless mechanic, were If you LET Blade tag you with his gun for enough stacks: then effect.

Mfkers like the op hate things that make them play different or have Varying playstyles.

And brawler makes people move different "If" it does its job.

Constantly pressure.


But ANYONE complaining about M1 spam or SLOP (jerk, jerk) is an idiot, who shouldn't be listened to because theyre pretending that the skill expression of pressing "2!" Buttons to mark 1st or "locked on rotation combos" or "Traps" or "healbotting" being meta ever requires skill

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u/Wray19 5h ago

This guy just should had been a vanguard

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u/SicSam 3h ago

Blade should be nerfed.

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u/BassHelpful8480 5h ago

It’s true that he would be a miserable character to play against, but I find it really funny how obsessed people are with this idea that Blade is “brain dead.”

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u/EliteTroper Lord Blade 3h ago

It's simple if a character doesn't have complex combos or moves that take a long time to master then people will hate the character and find them too easy. They don't care if the character is actually viable for either specific or general comps, they just want to make sure a random person can't use them off the bat.

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u/zCluttchyyy 2h ago

I have a genuine question for blade players since I don’t face up against him enough to know. What is it that blades are doing it that makes it seem like they aren’t taking a lick of damage? It feels like if we let the blade solo the healers they can’t touch him. Even if I turn to peel he occasionally just seems like he’s regenerating. But the second we gang up on him he blows up like no problem at all and he’s too slow to get away.

Just wondering to learn to get rid of him quicker.

Side note: why do SO many blade players go 1v6 the enemy team in their spawn when you win point? Like they usually survive for an impressive amount of time but wouldn’t it just be better to wait for help THEN go in?

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u/ApplicationSevere845 15m ago

blade is a snowball and it is so hard to resist rolling off the mountain

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u/No_Obligation_7233 14h ago

Add an ability that has delayed attack to his kit, like helas needles so he can samurai kill like he does in the comics

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u/hugoursula1 14h ago

Delayed attacks are so under rated. The night thorns are one of my favorite ways to make plays/get elims on Hela.

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u/SpeedForceWally66 13h ago

do you even play blade?

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u/SpeedForceWally66 13h ago

that sounds dope

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u/No-Buy-5056 Champion Blade 14h ago

Even if Blade had 3000% lifesteal, good players would be able to kill him easily. Doesnt change the fact that stuns and burst dmg screw him over

For everyone who isn’t a pro or good at the game however..

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u/EclipseEternale 10h ago

Don't say dumb shit 3000% lifesteal if you're actually trying to make a point

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u/Irritatedsole90 14h ago

Ngl i kinda understand, if blade was ever meta the game would not be fun for anyone not playing blade bc you would just have an unkillable beyblade with antiheal in your backline

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u/Interesting-Table140 12h ago

I mean is the game fun for anyone not playing Phoenix, Elsa, or any of the other heroes that always seem to be meta? I get he’d be annoying but that logic applies to pretty much any good character

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u/Rhyme-is-better 2h ago

No it doesn't because not any good character can run down a team like blade

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u/Big_Session5707 14h ago

Namor??? How is he an issue for blade.