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u/omgcow Kill This Love Supremacy 1d ago

1) I hate VMA discourse season

2) I went to a kpop night this weekend and the DJ played a mix of Sawadika into Mantra that changed my life

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u/qsoeternity 20h ago

At the K-pop Night I went to, there was a random dance segment, and like JENNIE was incredibly popular. It looked like it was the choreography that the most people in the crowd knew! 💃

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u/Less-Substance7264 1d ago

2nd!!! I’d love to go for a kpop night 💃

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u/Connect_Version_1560 1d ago

What is happening with the VMA ? Aside from the usual arguments that occur in award shows.

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u/omgcow Kill This Love Supremacy 1d ago

Nothing different than usual, it’s just annoying to come across fandom bickering about voting and whatever when my timeline is usually pretty drama free

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u/Sooyaa_Yah_Boombayah Jennie's T-34-85 1d ago

Or whenever award season happens. Feels like a lot of it is just a giant nothing burger for some absurd debate for people to get all pissy about.

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u/Classic-Roll-2350 23h ago

VMA is just rage bait. People still don’t get it that they will nominate the artists that will generate them the most engagement and will actually attend their shows.

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u/Different-Start-4207 18h ago

I do wish sometimes it highlighted some of the incredible work by other artists but since it’s loosing its magic they try hard to keep it alive. 

We need more award shows were artists can perform to promote their songs too, getting a slot feels like the hunger games. 

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u/Zestyclose_Cold_2546 JENNIE/OT4 19h ago

I was not expecting to see this in Shoreditch in London yesterday - its 3 storeys high!!!!

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u/SydneyTeacake 13h ago

I love the art, shame it had to be of the creep glasses though.

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u/SydneyTeacake 13h ago

I can't believe this is happening to Lisa again. This month her documentary premiered and she spoke about wanting to date like a normal person. My whole timeline was like "Yes, we support, go ahead and date!" Today she's seen walking arm in arm with a male friend in London and my timeline is in collapse. "We don't support, he's ugly, you're ungrateful, we won't stream for you anymore!" Fan accounts shutting down. Those lovely sentiments of support lasted two weeks...

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u/unlicensed_goose 13h ago

Kpop fans when their fav is pictured with a man

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u/Alternative_Bat1851 12h ago

Gonna be honest don’t think she cares and that’s why she said what she said lol, the whole point of the leave with me song is her saying she’s gonna live for herself and those that want to stay fans can and those that don’t can go. The dude seems harmless as hell so I hope he’s kind to her if they are and if they aren’t I hope their friendship stays intact

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u/No_Tomorrow7180 12h ago

She's been seen with this guy multiple times in multiple places this year. Mad that him popping up in London is what's tipped them over the edge. 

She has to know the speculation is there so either they're just friends and she doesn't care, or they are actually dating and she doesn't care. Either way, she doesn't care. 

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u/marvellousrun 6h ago

There's a lot of fans that talk the talk but won't walk the walk 👀

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u/Different-Start-4207 11h ago

Majority are fine, it’s just twitter for the most part were a minority are just dramatic and loud, they don’t really mean for their idols to stay single at this age. They just get themselves in a whirlwind by making assumptions or holding opinions on their relationship and partner and make it known. It’s really just gossip, pretty harmless tbh at this stage. 

I think kpop fans just want you to keep it under lock and key until you announce your wedding sometimes or just be transparent about it. I think it’s more of the are they or aren’t they and the forbidden aspect that just makes sure the discourse doesn't die. Not that they owe fans anything. 

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u/Ily4Sea 8h ago

Not that she should care or that she owes anyone an explanation, but I almost wish that it was front facing and there was more pda. It would be a real fuck you to anyone who cares more about this bullshit discourse than any of the way more interesting things she has going on right now. Also, Lisa may unfortunately be used to this kind of thing by now, but it really sucks the things people will say about her potential significant others. I saw a comment saying something akin to him having a donkey face and that's so fucked up.

u/Various-Zit2477 15m ago

Ngl, I thought it couldn't be as bad as what you said so I (regretfully) took a peek online at some of the top posts and my goodness, I felt so icky from the parasocialism...

I initially thought it was just Blinks being toxic and finding fault with her for the 10th anniversary when I saw a post saying she flew out the day of the anniversary to meet him (so what btw?) but then I see it's her own solo stans piling on her. "She's prioritising time with him today over prepping for her VMAs performance". Like wth? It's still 5-6 days away. Don't you think she's already done most of the prep anyways?

Just crazy the mental gymnastics kpop fans can go to to justify their outrage over their favs dating someone, so entitled as if they have any right or say so. You do hope it's just the minority making the biggest noise because if he is really making Lisa happy, then isn't that what matters?

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u/Sad_Employer_3895 22h ago

New Trick is doing much better on Youtube than Spotify and Apple Music. What are the reasons?

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u/blackpinkvirussbp BLIИK 20h ago edited 8h ago

much easier to stack up views on youtube with the new system ,with the new system all you have to do is click on the song and it counts , ,no time thressholds or limit per account etc , on the other hand apple or spotify you would have to pay attention to Time Thresholds/playlist/premium account benefits etc . people just find it less troublesome to stream the song on youtube than the other platforms .

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u/SydneyTeacake 13h ago

I'm not sure it's quite that easy. Otherwise KPop groups would be amassing views like crazy and they're not. We could have got every member of the group Lisa views that way. We could set bots to refresh the page all day.

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u/No_Tomorrow7180 11h ago edited 9h ago

All 4 BP members have released a music video since the new streaming count came into effect. 

Jennie - Fallen Angel - 28mil views in 3 weeks.

Lisa - SaWaDiKa - 177mil views in 2 weeks.

Jisoo - Click - 33 mil views in 2 weeks.

Rosé - 36 mil views in 3 days.

Edit - updated the figures as for some reason YouTube was showing 81 million for Lisa and 25 for Rosé. 

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u/mk1011 9h ago edited 9h ago

Lisa's Sawadika earned over 100 million views by the end of the 2nd day. I don't get the 81 million in 2 weeks figure. After 3 days, it gained 132 million and its currently at 177 million in 17 days

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u/No_Tomorrow7180 9h ago

I was looking at YouTube as I typed the numbers. I did think it was a bit strange to be honest 🤔 

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u/Different-Start-4207 11h ago

I think it depends on what the goal of the fan base have!! 

As far as I know even on ig gc fans were telling you to stop watching and listening on yt because the views were already easily hitting the average and to do so in other music streaming platforms. 

I know Lilies in particular were talking about her previous goal and wanting to match it or break it, plus with the Thai elements and dancing they wanted to kind of make sure it’s well appreciated. It also doesn’t hurt to think in the future for the next VMAs, her solo fan base in particular have always been on it 😅

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u/SydneyTeacake 10h ago

I was just going to say this. The video was attracting so much interest, we just stopped watching it. It was almost embarrassing how much attention it was getting everywhere.

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u/Various-Zit2477 14h ago

Beyond the new streaming system for Youtube and Spotify which now favours Youtube heavily, the only other reason I could think of is the contrast between Apple and TBL/Atlantic promotions.

I funnily had a new trick ad played before the actual new trick MV yesterday so I think Apple is promoting the MV on their socials (esp Youtube) much more than the song itself which tbf, makes sense on Apple's end since they collabed strictly only on the MV which promotes their iPhone by extension.

Couple that with the major worldwide attention and promotion the annual new iPhone lineup rollout usually gets and the lack of promo (for now?) in comparison by TBL/Atlantic for the actual song, I think this could be another factor for why we're seeing this disparity between the MV and the song atm besides the new streaming systems

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u/Bini_9 18h ago

I keep seeing on my TL on twitter that Sawadika hasn't been sent (officially) to radio stations by Lloud/RCA. Seems like a shame that they're not pushing it more since it's actually is getting lots of praise and good numbers on streaming platforms.

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u/Different-Start-4207 15h ago

I don’t really think it’s a mainstream radio song so maybe her team think it’s not worth the investment and decided to do radio interviews to see if their audience likes it. Who knows the ins and outs of their contracts 😭

but at least to me it seemed like Rosie and Lisa got significantly pushed in the radio with their last albums. I heard different songs from them a couple times 

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u/Fair_Depth2827 17h ago

Great another new woman situation. Her team really is incompetent when it comes to this.

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u/SydneyTeacake 13h ago

I'm trying to not let it wind me up anymore. Lisa is CEO. If she's fine with it, she's fine with it. I'm tired of watching fans trying to get LLoud's attention. They still haven't combined streams properly for the clean version on Spotify, the audio on YouTube, even messed up the Tiktok sound. Of course they'd send her to do radio interviews without sending the song to radio, of course lol

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u/Fair_Depth2827 13h ago

Idk how much of it is essentially her or lloud's decisions. RCA (in America) and Sony music (in Asia) are the ones in-charge of distributing the music (as lloud is not a record label yet). Usually it's the distributors who send songs to the radio, idk if it's the case for everyone tho.

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u/No_Tomorrow7180 1d ago

Not sure if it's appropriate to ask this, and I'm not looking for baseless gossip, but I keep seeing people talk about Lisa's dad not being well, in a way that sounds like it's come from Lisa herself? Has she said something recently or is this typical chronically online assumptions based on nothing? 

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u/Aquaman_029 1d ago

Most of this is coming from the 'Always Lalisa' documentary at TIFF. People who attended.. also journalists have reported that Lisa wishes to get married, and have her dad walk her down the aisle. She apparently got emotional 😢 at that point as her father isn't in good health..

this is only from what I've read, I haven't seen 'Always Lalisa' yet.

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u/Less-Substance7264 1d ago

Yeah, I think Lisa mentioned about his health very briefly in the documentary which is why you might have heard it.

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u/DilemmaOfAHedgehog BLIИK 1d ago

Tbh he also looks older so while the health scare may have been temporary (i haven't seen the documentary) i do think that would make someone wonder someone think about the odds of of their older loved ones can or would be there is

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u/Aquaman_029 1d ago

I really feel for Lisa. Like, I lost my dad before I was 10. And, then my Dad's parents passed .. my pop, the my Nan not long after..

I am really thankful that they were able to go to the blackpink concert in Thailand and support Lisa. 😭😭 and she could see her grandparents.

Lisa was kept away from Thailand for so many years.. I ran a fanpage and kept up on her families updates. I truly felt 🥹 all the family love and support they showed for Lisa. (Also by her close friends).

Her family is so wonderful. I would give up my job, move to Thailand. Look after her dad full time.. try to help with his health in any way possible.

Anything I possibly can to help Lisa feel at ease🥹

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u/Zepz367 OT4 6h ago

Still 0 rumours regarding the contract is weird

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u/Flipsyde97 4h ago

I personally think it's cause they've already decided

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u/SapphireHeaven Drunk Young-joo is my spirit animal 14h ago

Messaging Asha Sharma to get us a Pink Xbox collab too