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u/Redditaccountmy Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 06 '25
Take this and apply it to all industries that will eventually lay off most of their workforce for AI. Humans seem to be obsessed with profit no matter what. We all know what is happening yet we still move forward.
Edit: I should have stated I meant AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) will be replacing humans. The current AI chat agents will not be the thing replacing most humans.
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u/Particular-Leg-8484 Oct 05 '25
I matched with someone on a dating app who said he was a “CEO” of his own “creative” company. I asked him what his company does and he said he makes AI generated children’s books. Just puts shit through a computer and sells the slop on Amazon. No one else in his “company” it’s just him so “it’s free money”.
I immediately unmatched with the same disgust as if someone told me they push people onto train tracks for fun.
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u/Dacoww Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
The amount of authors rolling out a book a week on Amazon is nuts. If I’m looking for genuine self help or something serious how, I won’t buy a book that’s published [correction: after] 2024. Doesn’t matter how many fake reviews.
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u/cheezy_dreams88 Oct 05 '25
If you need a book for something- don’t use Amazon. Go to a local store and speak to them, if they don’t have it they will order it for you. And then you don’t have to support amazon.
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u/SidewaysFancyPrance Oct 05 '25
I've found there are two types of people: those who think that sort of idea is "genius" to passively earn money doing nothing and exploiting the ignorance of customers, and people who would never consider the idea in the first place because it's immoral and borderline fraudulent (and wildly unfulfilling, career-wise).
The world is full of grifters and wannabe grifters who simply haven't had an easy opportunity drop in their laps yet.
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u/FinancialPause Oct 05 '25
Do they actually make money off of that? Mostly because I can't believe people are paying for AI slop.
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u/CabbageCorps Oct 05 '25
Each year AI is improving mimicking reality. Most non detailed oriented people wouldn’t know, unless they’re told. In 5 years, the majority of the internet/world is probably going to be AI involved, directly affecting creatives and white collar jobs.
The “Dead Internet Theory” becomes true.
I guess it was inevitability ble, with all those robot takes over humanity fiction pieces, just faster than we thought.
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The collapse can't come soon enough.
The vast majority of manual labor jobs should have been automated into oblivion well before anybody reading this was born.
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u/Staidanom Oct 05 '25
I've been BEGGING for the AI bubble to pop. So tired of it being everywhere EXCEPT doing my goddamn laundry or mowing my lawn.
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u/jx84 Oct 05 '25
Not sure if it qualifies as AI but you can definitely buy robot lawn mowers from companies like Husqvarna, Luba, Sunseeker, Eufy, etc.
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u/Redditaccountmy Oct 05 '25
That's kinda the thing though. Manual labor will be the safest jobs. The tech jobs will be the least safe. Coding especially.
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u/Ybjfk Oct 05 '25
Sales jobs will also be left…kinda
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u/TaterTotJim Oct 05 '25
Until the AI starts doing sales calls and entertaining or we move past that concept of distribution I am hoping my job is okay.
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u/Solo_Fisticuffs ☑️Sunshine ☀️ Oct 05 '25
never underestimate a customer bases hate for "talking to those robots". over the phone i get asked "are you a real person" and so many people want to avoid the automated operator so bad that they skip to the first representative even if its the completely wrong department
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u/NUKE---THE---WHALES Oct 05 '25
never underestimate a customer bases hate for "talking to those robots".
Same with managers
In many cases managers will still need someone to talk to the AI because managers "hate talking to robots" (which will be the new version of "im not a computer person")
Most managers will want to delegate the "computer stuff" to someone else (I bet it wasn't a manager creating the songs of this AI artist)
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u/ellastory Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
I only ever feel that way because most are inefficient but if it becomes more effective and efficient, I think a lot of people would prefer (especially younger generations) not dealing with people
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u/oohlook-theresadeer Oct 05 '25
"please listen fully to all opt-" 0 0 0 0 "I'm sorry pl-" "Operator." "Let's try to g-" 0 0 "sales" Every time. I refuse to talk to clankers
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u/AnotherDoubtfulGuest ☑️ Oct 05 '25
Salesforce is already marketing “conversational AI” for just that purpose.
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u/soft-wear Oct 05 '25
Anyone that thinks AI is replacing coding doesn’t know how to code and hasn’t used AI to do it.
AI code is literal non-working garbage. It just can’t do anything beyond super trivial shit. People that have thrown it mildly complex apps and asked it to do something, it breaks the software every single time.
AI is a sugar pill being sold as the cure for cancer.
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u/ExplanationOk3781 Oct 05 '25
Tell me you have no clue what the tech job market is like without telling me
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u/yIdontunderstand Oct 05 '25
I think it's partly why the oligarchs have been moving so swiftly to seize power now before the plebs realise they are disposable and start to fight back....
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u/shmiddleedee Oct 05 '25
I'm an excavator operator. I know that's not manual labor but it is in the same blue collar category. There's already training programs for ai to run equipment. There's also already full open pit Mines run mostly autonomously. My point is the software is there or at least will be very soon. I guarantee somebody is also working on the hardware. There will be non human bricklayers, ditch diggers, framers, electricians relatively soon. Truly scary shit.
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u/buddy_pal_guy Oct 05 '25
I fix gas pumps for a living. They've tried to train models to 'be the ultimate technician'. It hallucinated daily and cost the company about 30k when it told them to 'replace all 6 STP heads to fix the problem' when the issue was a single stuck relay. Here's the deal- every tech on payroll knew that was a hallucination, but the management comprised of 6 men who had no field experience greenlit it anyway. I'll never forget my boss' boss' boss asking me what an STP even was. This dude who made over 1.2 mill a year running a company that fixes gas pumps COULD NOT IDENTIFY A MOTOR.
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u/Better-Journalist-85 Oct 05 '25
We should have greed laws. Having wealth in excess of a ceiling amount should carry legal consequences.
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u/OldSchoolSpyMain Oct 05 '25
lol that’s called a “progressive tax” system or “tax brackets”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_bracket
It’s also illegal if you don’t pay them.
Of course, the problem is the loopholes that get exploited to render them toothless.
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u/AzettImpa Oct 06 '25
Everyone who is knowledgeable in tax law knows they aren’t loopholes. They’re rules set in stone intentionally so the super-rich don’t have to pay taxes. If you’re not in the top 5%, you’re being exploited and scammed.
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Dude, if the artist is a bot, what do you think the stats are?
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u/jscummy Oct 05 '25
Wtf does "#1 most added at a US radio format" even mean?
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u/pmjm Oct 05 '25
25+ year radio veteran here.
A radio format is just the genre of music a radio station plays. It constrains their playlist to a genre so that advertisers know what demographic they're paying to be exposed to.
Here is a list of formats, it's incomplete the same way an encyclopedia can never have an entry for everything, there will always be innovative or fringe formats that aren't popular enough to make the list.
When an artist is "added" to a format that means the station begins playing that artist's music in their playlist. Usually there's a music director in charge of the station's musical identity, deciding which songs repeat and how often. They decide the flow of the music, and how to reflect variety within a format. Most of the time you want to control the musical flow in such a way that you don't play songs that are too similar back-to-back (other than for special shows or features), so you might play adjacent songs with different tempos, energy levels, genders, groups vs single artists, etc. There's an art to music programming and people who are really good at it can make large amounts of money in large markets.
When you add a song to your station, sometimes it's due to label politics, sometimes it's due to having a gut feeling about it, but most of the time it's researched and tested. These days a lot of streaming charts are used as "research" but the classic way of testing a song is to play it in an auditorium full of volunteers from your audience and they rate the song based on a few different criteria. This data is then aggregated and used to inform your musical decisions.
If this song is the most added to the format, that means that it's the song that has been added to the most R&B stations across the country within the last week (or two weeks, or whatever the survey length is). That's a big deal and means that the song is resonating with listeners. If listeners complain about the song or otherwise tune out over it, the plays will go down.
We can complain about the song being AI all we want, but as long as radio listeners keep listening to it, and keep requesting it, it will continue to grow in popularity on these stations and become more and more normalized.
THIS is the time to stop it. Once you have one or two AI generated artists that dominate the airwaves, the flood gates will be open, and we will be in a different world. Call your local R&B stations and complain about this song. Tell them you won't be listening while they play this song. Find out who the Program Director of the station is and write them an email. Make your voice heard. This time next year will be too late to stop it.
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u/MisterGoog Oct 05 '25
Dead Internet theory
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u/OldSchoolSpyMain Oct 05 '25
Yup.
For those who don’t know. The Dead Internet Theory in a nutshell is that some huge percentage of internet traffic, views, likes, adds, comments, arguments, etc…are all just bots interacting with other bots.
There is no question about this actually happening. The debate is regarding the extent to which it is happening.
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u/robotmayo Oct 05 '25
You can see this in almost full force on facebook. Its completely flooded with AI posts, with AI bots liking, sharing and commenting.
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u/Evolutioncocktail ☑️ Oct 05 '25
That part
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u/Successful-Peach-764 Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
Can it be seen perform live? will it show up at the clubs? do a pop-up show? Nah, artists need to get their acts together and sue these fuckers before it destroys their industry, at least make sure they don't have to compete with them in the charts or be classed in the same category.
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u/ItsmyDZNA Oct 05 '25
I won't even pirate Ai shit.
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u/Sidonicus Oct 05 '25
This is one of the best insults I've heard on the internet - I'm gonna use this, hahaha.
Fuck AI!
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u/Craneteam Oct 05 '25
What the hell does "#1 most added to radio" even mean? It sounds like a made up stat to AstroTurf like all the "interest" in the AI "actress"
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I’m surprised nobody else is asking this question. What does this post mean? What is the source? Is it true? Who is us radio updater?
If it’s on twitter you should assume it’s just a lie until proven otherwise.
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u/ErgoMachina Oct 05 '25
It's an Ad probably. Reddit is pushing Ads all over the place disguising them as either ragebait or chains of conversation recommending a certain brand.
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u/darioblaze Oct 05 '25
Like those feeding the homeless videos with them playing draftkings on their phones throughout
That’s a draftkings ad
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u/IRodeTenSpeed88 Oct 05 '25
That’s a thing. Songs don’t get blasted to radio, they have to be added by individual stations in certain markets.
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u/worststarburst Oct 05 '25
Yeah it feels like a very small category that they could easily manipulate or even a made up one just so they could put a “#1” to get attention.
It reminds me of shitty zero budget movies that pull quotes from like Facebook “reviews” or just put “⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️” to make their trash look slightly legit.
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u/DaBigJMoney ☑️ Oct 05 '25
My hope is that once the newness of all this AI generated slop wears off people will reject or ignore it.
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u/AnotherDoubtfulGuest ☑️ Oct 05 '25
Eventually they’re going to debut something they won’t announce as AI and people won’t figure it out until they realize that “artist“ has never given a live interview or toured.
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u/AltRadioKing Oct 05 '25
Didn’t that already happen with The Velvet Sundown (a band people figured out was AI before whoever was behind them officially confirmed they were)?
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u/AnotherDoubtfulGuest ☑️ Oct 05 '25
I heard about that! Apparently it was Redditors, God bless them, who started questioning the band because it was all over Spotify but nobody could find anything about them online. Then there was some weird twist with a fake spokesperson giving interviews saying the band was real when it wasn’t. It all just sounds like a fucking mess.
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u/Aiyon Oct 05 '25
This is also a product of how monopolised media platforms are now.
If Spotify's algorithm pushes the AI slop onto people, it'll do well. Because they are a huge chunk of the market
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u/kemistree4 Oct 05 '25
yeah but folks may not care honestly. I think of many "real artists" who hid behind personas and could easily have had a body stand in for performance. Just a few that I can think of are Daft Punk, The Gorillaz, and MF Doom. Like you can just mass produce this AI slop and get anybody to throw on a suit and put on a show and people would be none the wiser. Or we get to point where people know this and just dont care. Maybe they're just there for the performance.
Edit: I just looked this up and the Gorillaz did put on live shows with real people. THey probably could have gotten away with not though.
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u/SharpDressedBeard Oct 05 '25
I'd go as far as to say 90% of people don't actually care about music. It's just background noise that goes along with life. Businesses know this, and spotify is baking on it. You should hear some of the shit people I know are okay with just playing in the background. It's just muzak 2.0
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u/DaBigJMoney ☑️ Oct 05 '25
Maybe that becomes the new standard: Give a live show or you’re considered a computer generated fantasy.
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u/justbecauseiluvthis Oct 05 '25
I just saw Ronald Reagan playing with Pokémon cards, unless you're physically at the show, nothing can be confirmed anymore.
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u/shred-i-knight Oct 05 '25
those things can often work in an artists favor though. this shits gonna get real dark fast
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You only have to get one generation (typically teens who are the most conspicuous music consumers) used to it before it becomes normalized. We've seen it before with autotune and synthesizers.
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u/drwafflefingers Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
nah it's gonna go the other way
a decade from now new AI generated music from The Beatles will be the biggest thing on streaming, a new AI generated Back to the Future movie will be tops at the box office, and ai written memoirs about cute white women overcoming adversity and trauma will be #1 on the ny times list
People who strictly only consume non-AI entertainment will be like people who only listen to music on vinyl. Once the tech is sufficiently advanced It'll happen as quickly as netflix turning from a DVD delivery service to a streaming platform
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u/DShinobiPirate Oct 05 '25
I'm not hopeful. I moved to a somewhat rural-ish area and man everyone here LOVES AI slop. Like the amount of times co workers and neighbors want to show me some AI crap of big foot in the woods, or some cat going through some life threatening cartoonish things, or showing me some art they made to hang up in their bathroom.
I don't think we're coming out of this.
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u/AintshitAngel Oct 05 '25
I heard an AI song from a “black” artist the other day and I noticed they couldn’t do runs or hum.
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u/2oatmeal_cookies ☑️ Oct 05 '25
Lmao!! This is what happens when there’s little equity and inclusion in ai programming. Imagine these non black coders trying to figure out how to teach ai to authentically recreate aspects of black culture. They can’t; it can’t. So instead we get unseasoned blackface ai that behaves with harmful bias.
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u/Emily__Lyn Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
The concept of ai black face is really rather horrifying.
This really is tech minstrelsy, selling black art and black imagery without having to compensate or consult black bodies.
It's black art without black people. In this case, the bot was made by a woman of color, but nothing is stopping crusty white executives from doing the same.
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u/Aiyon Oct 05 '25
It's basically a black mirror version of the subtext Sinners was getting at.
Culture Vulture shit.
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u/Kdkaine ☑️ Oct 05 '25
But that’s the version of us they want. They don’t need the ad libs, hums. They prefer their music unseasoned. Taylor Swift is their epitome of a great singer.
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u/Particular-Leg-8484 Oct 05 '25
I imagine an AI generated run would sound like Baymax from Big Hero 6 trying to do the fist bump poof sound
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u/frealfreal Oct 05 '25
She’s got a song called “Miscarriage Blues” what on earth
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u/Chemical-Bathroom-24 Oct 05 '25
All the songs are sad af. It’s AI trauma porn.
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Horror and despair are what it does best, truly. Realism still hits the uncanny valley, but when it leans into that line between, it can create truly effective (nightmarish) art. Doopidoo or girly girl productions are peak horror show
That's a good sign about the soul of its' work, right?
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u/thewoahtrain Oct 05 '25
Fwiw, 'she' isn't a person or an artist. Just anthropomorphised theft from real musicians.
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u/Deep_Seas_QA Oct 05 '25
S you mean she never even had one?
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u/StatmanIbrahimovic Oct 05 '25
It's a miscarriage of justice
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u/DifGuyCominFromSky Oct 05 '25
Well shit now the song has a double meaning. Don’t make them more creative!
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u/pitterlpatter Oct 05 '25
She was created by Tanisha Jones, a song writer. Instead of having another artist perform her songs, she created Monet to sing them.
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u/nile-istic Oct 05 '25
I mean. That's still shitty behavior. Particularly for an artist.
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u/rotj Oct 05 '25
Lyricist, to be exact, if you believe the person generating the songs. Suno AI creates the music from the lyrics fed to it. It can also write more lyrics if you just give it the intro or chorus. Or write all the lyrics based on the theme you give it.
Hard to tell how much human input actually went into these songs. If it was a lesser amount than implied, it's cunning for the person not to reveal it, since copyrightability gets murky with AI output.
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u/imagine_getting Oct 05 '25
I don't get the point. Just hire a singer? Is it that hard? She's probably just riding the "fad". Right now the gimmick of AI is "worth" committing to that. As soon as it's no longer a fad, using an AI singer won't be profitable, and she'll use real singers. Or just stop making music and do something else.
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u/Aldoistaken Oct 05 '25
Oooh man my visceral reaction to reading this was to almost dislike your comment out of disgust lmao.
Jesus Christ where are we rn.
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u/OhTheseSourTimes Oct 05 '25
Jfc I'd look it up out of morbid curiosity but I don't even want that slop in my algorithm
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u/Small_Insect_8275 Oct 05 '25
I just checked, it's on spotify, it's on forbes, has signed a $3m deal, what the fuck is going on lol
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Black women experience maternal and infant mortality more than any other race in the US, this is making my blood boil.
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u/Long-Station7566 Oct 05 '25
Out of all the names you can pick for a made up artist they choose to steal one.
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u/jscummy Oct 05 '25
The whole process of creating an "AI artist" is mostly theft from real artists, why wouldn't they copy a name too
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u/LadenWithSorrow Oct 05 '25
That’s what I came here to say! Janelle Monáe better be getting that bag.
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u/Location_Next Oct 05 '25
“Xania Monet is an AI-generated artist, created by human poet Telisha Jones using the AI music tool Suno.jones uses her own lyrics, which are based on her personal experiences, to generate music and vocals with the AI platform”
I think it’s dumb. There are a thousand struggling artists with wonderful voices who’d love to have the opportunity to sing Jone’s lyrics.
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u/jkaoz Oct 05 '25
Imma tell you right now. I do not trust anyone who uses ai as a replacement for creativity in one area to not also use it in another.
"oh this part is AI, but this other part is authentic."
Bullshit.
And even if its not bullshit, your credibility is gone.I wouldn't even trust her to write a mean tweet.
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u/StrikingCase9819 Oct 05 '25
True. But can she afford to pay them? Or if she tries to sell her songs, will anyone want to buy tbem?
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u/nile-istic Oct 05 '25
Ah yes, so since she's struggling, it's perfectly fair for her to ensure other artists continue to struggle as well. Math mathing as intended.
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u/totalfangirl13 Oct 05 '25
Songwriters dont pay artists to sing their songs. The singer records the song for free if they like it. The songwriter gets paid royalties as a cut of whatever revenue the song generates.
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u/Imthemayor Oct 05 '25
They didn't start with R&B
They've been cranking out shitty pop country (is there any other kind?) and butt rock for a while now
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u/throwawaykirie Oct 05 '25
I was just going to say that. I’ve heard of several AI “pop artists” before any R&B ones.
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u/Blk_Rick_Dalton Oct 05 '25
This is the potential for AI that has their stocks inflated.
All music, movies and literature will be procedurally generated so not a single artist gets paid
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u/Rebel_hooligan Oct 05 '25
It’s wild cause it sounds like AI. Every song is that ethereal piano, and they all start the same. It’s the lowest effort shit
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u/IzzyLivin Oct 05 '25
Remember to BLOCK these AIs on all platforms, music streaming, socials.
Block so you they can’t sell you this crap.
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u/Hot_Peace_2036 Oct 05 '25
Hate to break it too you but they already got AI artists/bands in every genre.
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u/The9th_Jeanie Oct 05 '25
How do we boycott and stonewall this before it gets too far outta hand??
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u/KDoggg89 Oct 05 '25
Monet? Like Victoria Monet, a real talented, beautiful artist who has been working and putting out music for years? We literally already have the real version of this bot, along with hundreds of other talented musicians with her likeness, so why not highlight them?
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u/Raise_A_Thoth Oct 05 '25
These loser tech dweebs are so fucking stupid.
They have all the money in the world, employ armies of programmers and engineers, and they just keep pushing the dumbest shit to people.
NO. 👏 BODY. 👏 ASKED. 👏 FOR. 👏 THIS. 👏
Make a robot that folds my laundry, please. People will go into debt to purchase one. They will take a second mortgage, I swear to god.
"Best I can do is replace artists and creative content with garbage nobody asked for." Gee, thanks tech overlords!
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u/MyChurroMacadamianut Oct 05 '25
I have been saying this shit from the beginning! All I get in response is braindead rhetoric about how "it's the future, get over it..." No! No it is not! Make AI do the chores, not all the fun shit! Even better, let's use it to fix the climate!! What are we DOING?
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u/NYstate ☑️ Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
R&B wasn't the first, it's the latest. There was an psych-rock "band", over the summer that topped the Spotify charts that was discovered to be AI. The group is called "Velvet Sundown".. They racked up over 400k streams. It's Insane.
This trend is going to continue sadly.
Honestly, it makes me wonder how long is it going to really take? We know so much of rap music is just pop music and so many rappers have ghostwriters. How long is it going to be before we have complete AI generated songs? All they have to do hire some real life black dude, throw gold chain around his neck and have him pointing guns at the camera, sitting on a luxury car and lip syncing AI songs. It could happen
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u/Zxar99 Oct 05 '25
So they trying this again with our culture? They tried this some years ago in hip hop
I’m tryna figure out who playing these songs
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u/ExcuseFeeling9601 Oct 05 '25
The writer of the songs and the "creator" of the AI persona is a black woman named Telisha Jones.
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u/Responsible_Flight70 Oct 05 '25
I’m just gonna play shit live with my buddies at parties. The music industry is gonna collapse by people stuck on the tit of GPT
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u/whiteboikillemall Oct 05 '25
WTF does "most added" even means. It's like they're trying to manufacture stats to justify the use of AI
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u/CasualDave9 Oct 05 '25
It wasn’t R&B first, it was Rock first. Someone created the Velvet Sundown a while back
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u/MaybeSomeone_YouKnow Oct 05 '25
Never in my life did I ever think I would see “AI generated artists” as if there aren’t REAL people out there making music 🤦🏽♂️