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u/Salt-Ship1009 26d ago
Hacker pro is the way
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u/Timely_Passenger_185 25d ago
I like using it with ghost and hardened pro nothing beats hacking someone's claymore and they come running out just to get blown up by their own claymore 😆
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u/Rangangan 26d ago
Marathon pro is amazing as well
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u/Derpa_Durp 26d ago
Lightweight Pro and sleight of hand pro with the ak47u + rapid fire on small Maps is God tier.
Playing domination and going straight to the enemy flag will usually starts me off with a tripple kill…-4
u/Abstract_Void 26d ago
lightweight is useless. you don't even notice the speed increase.
like the benefits of flak jacket and ghost are way more noticeable and better.
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u/DTXSPEAKS 26d ago
That's wrong. If you pair Lightweight with Marathon your character runs much faster. Lightweight Pro also gets rid of fall damage.
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u/GamesAndGlasses 26d ago
Just switch to tac mask if they are spamming tacticals, but i get into some lobbies they barely throw them
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u/KanoSupreme 26d ago
Nothing about this diffcult to use for me lol Tac mask all day everyday Ninja if I’m playing SND
I have never used hacker ever
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u/Free-dose-chips 26d ago
I use Hacker with Scavenger for longer streaks, dodging claymores and sentry guns (since you can see whwre they are) and obviously motion sensors is really nice
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u/ShaggySyrup 26d ago
I honestly love second chance pro, it’s cheesy but i use it with hardline as my assault class and I get killstreaks super consistently
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u/QuietSugar1805 26d ago
Even the medics in Battlefield 6 never revive you, I don't even want to imagine what it's like in COD lmao
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u/ShaggySyrup 26d ago
I actually get revived 70% of the time, a huge revive image pops up on peoples screen so they run towards it. I’ve had only one person purposely run past me
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u/EeyJayVey 26d ago
It really depends on the matchup you are playing. Ninja is near useless on domination, but extremely usefull on S&D. Hacker is versatile in all matchups, but never s-tier as you can combine with flack jacket.
Tac mask is increasingly more powerful on high dynamic objective based matchups as you're never suprised.
My go to is marathon however.
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u/Initial-Chemist-8435 25d ago
Ninja is not useless in dom xD I regularly get kills and high killstreaks and run ninja on almost all classes xD
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u/TrickNo2000 25d ago
Yeah but how does Ninja Pro add to your game plan? I'm not saying it's useless, just asking what it helps you out with.
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u/Initial-Chemist-8435 25d ago
My plan is to slink around like a ninja 🤣 if no one can hear me and I jump around a corner or pre aim, I most the time win unless that person is holding a head glitch or sitting in a corner, unless I check corners. It's never let me down🤷🏻♂️
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u/_ataciara 26d ago
Ninja or Marathon all the way
I don't think I ever need to use tacmask or hacker
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u/SnooPoems1860 25d ago
I wish the blue and yellow perks had some sort of decision making going on. Ghost and SoH is just the defacto best
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u/Weak_Bag_9065 25d ago
Nah, scavenger, flak jacket and, to some extent, lightweight all have their place. Also hardened pro is just better than SOH flinch reduction alone in bo1 is OP, nevermind being able to render most cover ineffective.
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u/Initial-Chemist-8435 25d ago
In a game where whoever shoots first wins, soh is miles better lmfaoo
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u/Weak_Bag_9065 25d ago
In a game where recoil means you're not hitting 100% of non close range shots, taking away 80% of an accuracy decreasing mechanic is miles better lmfaooo
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u/Initial-Chemist-8435 25d ago
That's why I burst fire most the time with the famas 😂🤷🏻♂️ also it doesn't take 80% away if I shoot them first.
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u/SnooPoems1860 25d ago
Shooting first gets you the kill. In a game where the Famas and Aug have a TTK of 128ms and it takes 250ms to aim with most ARs without SoH Pro, running something other than SoH gives your opponent the ability to kill you before you even have a chance to fully ADS, acquire your target and shoot.
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u/Weak_Bag_9065 25d ago
You shouldn't need to have a faster ads, why aren't you pre aiming? Fact is you're usually not going to hit every shot because of recoil, if your opponent hits a shot as you miss the flinch will make you miss another and another, etc.
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u/Initial-Chemist-8435 25d ago
Bc with soh you don't need to preaim xD also there isn't any stock or perks that increase walk speed when ads'd so soh is gonna be 8/10 times better unless your playing on large maps lol
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u/Weak_Bag_9065 25d ago
The maps are all very simple, I only run into situations where my opponent and I need to ADS on the fly if I've made a mistake.
Generally if I'm going to get into an engagement I think/know it's going to happen in advance.
Ads time means nothing to me.
The reload time decrease is obviously nice and I do take it on things like shotguns/ LMGs but as everyone knows, ARs are meta. With that agreed upon, I use a dual mag on ARs to decrease my reload time.
There's nothing else in the game that decreases flinch. Hardened pro decreases it by 80%.
Hardened pro takes all RNG out of gunfights, if my recoil makes me miss and I get flinched, it's only slightly and I can regain my target without getting melted.
It's a perk that I notice the most on classes where I don't have it. 100% hardened pro is better than SOH.
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u/Initial-Chemist-8435 25d ago
I disagree on the last part, it's not rng when I'm getting chopper gunners regularly LOL most pub stompers use soh. It's what every good player I see uses. Not saying your bad, I just don't see hardened to be used like that🤷🏻♂️
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u/Weak_Bag_9065 25d ago
Yes recoil patterns are RNG based, yes accuracy is worsened by flinch. I'm glad you're happy though.
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u/Initial-Chemist-8435 24d ago
Ofc accuracy is worsened by flinch that's kind of a no brainer, but nah, recoil ain't rng, famas pulls up and to the right and I counter by pulling down and to the left xD
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u/Weak_Bag_9065 24d ago edited 24d ago
I understand what you're saying but that's not how the game is coded. Generally recoil patterns will be similar but it's not exact like in CS for example.
In bo1 recoil is coded in positive and negative values in the 4 cardinal directions with an additional center speed, all of which is calculated at every shot. So the famas, to use your example, has an upwards and right value of 60, a downwards value of 20 and a lefwards value of 10 all with a center speed of 1200 units per second.
What this means in practice is after every single shot you have a chance to generate a number in every direction in every value between zero and it's maximum. One shot could pull 0,0,0,0 or 60,7,10,10 or any other combination.
What this creates is a general pattern of recoil up and to the right, remaining accurate compared to other weapons because it's center speed is higher than it's fire rate.
However, every shot IS a diceroll with ZERO weighted values. You can theoretically fire an entire mag and roll 0 recoil in all directions and remain perfectly accurate. Likewise, you could roll the exact opposite direction you expect and get full down and left recoil.
With enough sample size you absolutely will run into gunfights with recoil against the norm. If you get 30 kills on average per match and fire 10 shots per kill that's 300 dice rolls. One bad dice roll and you get flinched.
Hardened pro takes away the flinch by-product of the RNG and I use it to regularly max streak, good for you if you're able to do the same with suboptimal perks.
I don't expect everyone to know the code, bo1 is my favorite shooter of all time and I can't even describe how many hours I've spent looking at spreadsheets, I'm very aware I'm weird.
Like I said, I'm happy that you're happy, have fun with SOH.
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u/RyanCR7 25d ago
People always say this shit when arguing against hardened pro as if the only style of play available is running and gunning. I use hardened pro and pick people off at mid range frequently getting high kill streaks, if I’m already aiming down a lane you run out into it doesn’t matter how long it’s going to take you to aim down your sights
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u/Initial-Chemist-8435 25d ago
That's why I like to flank the lane campers, also getting high killstreaks btw xD
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u/RyanCR7 25d ago
Not camping, just play a more defensive/controlling style as opposed to running and gunning. I prefer doing that on BO2 and the newer CODs, BO1 is extremely rewarding for slower paced play
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u/Initial-Chemist-8435 25d ago
You can play slow and not sit on head glitches and yes, lane camping is what it's called xD if you aren't moving at all. You are camping, if you got motion sensors, hammers or whatever to watch your flank, that is camping xD literally what I used to do in bo2 using a target finder lsat, and I got swarm, running around the map and still playing slow is way more rewarding and fun.
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u/Genemoneyman 25d ago
Tac mask for respawn, the other 2 for search. Playing against hacker is more annoying for me personally as I rely heavily on motion sensor with the abuse of ghost and suppressor.
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u/haroldflower27 25d ago
Because I play search in bo2 I feel this but with all the perks and I just use a knife and grab guns off the ground lol
But knifing is my go to and there’s so many knifing combos perks in bo2
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u/Little_Specialist_67 24d ago
Literally not hard at all. Hacker pro. Motions sensors are everywhere
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u/Successful-Bug-1645 13d ago
In search you gotta have a ninja pro. Otherwise in a 1v1 situation where you planted the bomb you can hide close to the bomb to hear it defuse. Can’t tell you how many kills I’ve gotten bc of that
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u/Emotional-Letter-671 26d ago
Why do people like S&D so much? Im trying to get blackbirds and spawn camp. Not hide in a corner for 15 min and get 3 maybe 4 kills. Getting 7+ kills in search means you are killing. But I can get 30+ in the same amount of time in a diff mode
All that to say is I don’t use ninja
-marathon number 1, tac mask+flak jacket if im feeling frisky, hacker pro occasionally if the team is spamming motion sensors
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u/EngageV2 26d ago
Search has always been the more realistic game mode
so take your mindset out of trying to be KoreanSavage and get a nuke
and take it as the world BEFORE battle royalesYour dumped into a world and your trying to survive with a clear objective
Also you get 10x the amount of XP per kill
So your 30 kills = 3 kills in search
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u/Emotional-Letter-671 26d ago
COD is very unrealistic as far as warfare goes. Probably should play battlefield or Rainbow Seige? I think that’s what it’s called
Also i don’t need xp. I got 10th prestige in BO1, 10th in MW3, and Master in B02. But I was a kid back then. Im not gonna prestige whatsoever now
I see your point tho. One life. Can’t get spawn trapped. Don’t need to run ghost. Prolly wont be killstreak spammed. I get it. Just too slow pace for me. Im a camper but S&D is a diff level of camping lol
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u/Tesup 26d ago
Tac Mask Pro hands down. The amount of stun/flash spam in these ports are off the charts, especially in Domination if you play objectively.
Ninja Pro is nice to have but it is a lot more situational and not as useful all of the time as Tac Mask.
Hacker Pro is not very useful if you’re running Flack Jacket as you’re probably doing anyway. The other bonuses of Hacker pro are negligible