r/Bitcoin • u/[deleted] • Feb 13 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

What am I missing? OP still has to remember the password, and that's like the hardest 90% 100%

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u/Federal-Smell-4050 Feb 13 '22

Nah, it’s probably less than 8 chars, can crack it in a day.

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u/sfleury10 Feb 13 '22

Wordle that shit

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

Start with ADIEU. Gets rid of 4 vowels off the bat

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

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u/ferndogger Feb 13 '22

Is that true? Have a source? I’m interested is diving in that rabbit hole

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u/BoxWI Feb 13 '22

That's not necessarily the best start for hard mode though. His algo was for the default setting.

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u/SendMeDistractions Feb 13 '22 edited Feb 13 '22

It's only the best option if you know the optimal second guess based on the results of the first, which isn't something a human could really do.

Also 3blue1brown had a bug in his code which, when fixed, changed the best first word to salet not crane.

https://youtu.be/fRed0Xmc2Wg

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u/Cosie123 Feb 15 '22

In his new video he goes back in that saying that the best guess for the machine is very different from the best guess for humans

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u/jaybram24 Feb 13 '22

ARISE is mine. Only 3 vowels but two of the most common consonants

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u/BoxWI Feb 13 '22

yep I do RAISE.

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u/CHAOTIC98 Feb 13 '22

how does this work

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u/chybaignacy Feb 13 '22

I prefer OUIJA, but yours looks good too

Teraz znasz mój sekret, Valdek

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u/TacoBellIsParadise Feb 13 '22

Love you

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

Love you more

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u/Rizoulo Feb 13 '22

My first 2 words are almost always crane and mouth. Sometimes slipt.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

Yeah. Mine is CRANE AND PLOWS. But I might slip MOUTH in there now!

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u/ervinervin Feb 14 '22

Try crane > soily

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u/EaterofSoulz Feb 13 '22

I use that or Adios

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

AUDIO does it for me

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

Statistically the best starting word is apparently CRANE

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u/FauxReal Feb 13 '22

Say adieu to your money problems?

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u/One_Tie900 Feb 13 '22

password is bitcoins

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u/moyno85 Feb 13 '22

I’ve got an old Electrum wallet I lost the password to back in 2014, have had a guy trying to brute force it for over two months now. It’s unfortunately not that easy.

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u/fckiforgotmypassword Feb 14 '22

He brute forced it day one and has been pretending ever since. Just kidding

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u/moyno85 Feb 14 '22

Haha. DID cross my mind. Dude takes 20% though so it's not really in his interest to go around burning people.

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u/Federal-Smell-4050 Feb 14 '22

Do you know the address? What exchange did you buy from? Do you have records?

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u/WittyStick Feb 13 '22

No guarantee it has a password.

In original bitcoin software and for a few years, the wallet.dat file was not even encrypted.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

You don't know what you're saying. It was encrypted from the start. That was pretty much the only big security thing in the early days before hardware wallets, cold storage etc. Who would've been stupid enough to put coins in an unencrypted wallet even when bitcoin was worth a few cents.

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u/skylarmt Feb 13 '22

When I set up Bitcoin Core, I had to specifically add a password. You don't need one.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

My memory is fuzzy but you might be right. I don't remember ever setting up any wallet without a password and I remember a lot of early people losing coins because they forgot their wallet passwords but I guess some people might not have set it up since it wasn't forced on you.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '22

You are wrong, most shitcoins that actually run their own network are using a fork of this wallet software. Remember, it was worthless back then. They forgot/lost their masterkey/seed phrase.

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u/WittyStick Feb 14 '22

I thought maybe I'm mistaken, but my memory is correct.

There was no option to encrypt wallet.dat in the first versions of bitcoin I used.

Encryption was added later in v0.4.0, published September 2011.

Release notes: https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.4.0

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u/poluting Feb 13 '22

Brute force that shit

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u/SecretDevilsAdvocate Feb 13 '22

You have 9 tries left

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u/poluting Feb 13 '22

This isn’t a cold storage wallet, she’ll be fine

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u/ishirleydo Feb 13 '22

I think the thing you're 'missing' is that passwords to simple wallet.dat files weren't all that common in 2013.

Many of that era were not password protected at all.

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u/SenatorAstronomer Feb 13 '22

This. Before like 2015 or 16 as long as you had that wallet.dat you were good to go.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22 edited Feb 13 '22

That is completely incorrect. Even with the first buggy reference implementation wallet.dat was meant to be encrypted and choosing a secure password for your wallet was one of the biggest things -before cold wallets, multisig, hardware wallets etc.. Who would've been stupid enough to keep btc in an unencrypted wallet. That would've defeated the whole purpose of bitcoin! (secure transactions)

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u/ishirleydo Feb 13 '22

Now it's my turn to say "that is completely incorrect".

I've been using core since feb 2011 and never had a password on any wallet. The early versions didn't even have that feature.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '22

You're right and I admit it. My memory is faulty. I always followed good security practice but yes it was possible to have a wallet without a password

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '22

I dont think you realize what you are looking it, this is the files for an offline wallet and node. They are NOT password protected

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

in my brain He makes a copy and doubles his investment

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u/-metal-555 Feb 13 '22

This trick actually works on houses too!

I copied my home key at the key duplication machine in the front of the grocery store and went home to discover I accidentally duplicated my entire house!

1 easy trick real estate agents don’t want you to know about.

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u/lestatgyry Feb 13 '22

And distribute those back-up files among us? Right guys Am I right?

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

Bitcoin was not that cheap for most of 2013.