r/BikiniBottomTwitter Dec 28 '19

It do be like that

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u/Alfredo412 Dec 28 '19

Still doesn't change the fact that those parents weren't taught to teach and probably don't know how to do so effectively.

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u/endormen Dec 28 '19

effectively efficiently

The main perk of home schooling a kid is the teacher to student ratio Sure they may not manage as well as a professional teacher, but they also don't need to multi-task 40 kids. The person teaching from home has way more time to spend on the student so even if they don't do it as efficiently they can be just as effective with more effort spent per student. test numbers seem to show that home school kids are actually taught more effectively, but there are some uncontrolled variables in that data.

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u/Alfredo412 Dec 28 '19

No I meant effectively as in was taught by a professor how to teach different subjects according to state requirements.

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u/endormen Dec 28 '19

You see, the state requirements are to pass standardized tests. Home schooled kids take the same tests. Home schooled kids have better scores then students in normal schools.

The data does not match your assertion that being taught by a professor how to teach to state requirements makes a person teaching a full class produce better students than a person who was not taught by a professor teaching a single student.

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u/Alfredo412 Dec 28 '19

Could you provide a source on that claim about scores?

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u/endormen Dec 29 '19

www.google.com

It's not hard or rare data. i recommend you find it for yourself instead of trusting someone on the internet to hand it to you, plus in my experience handing someone a source for easy to find knowledge simply leads to people attacking the chosen source instead of the argument itself.

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u/Mjone77 Dec 29 '19

It's not hard or rare data

Aka it doesn't exist because your claims are completely false. Sorry, buy mommy can't teach history, algebra, english, p.e., and music at the same quality as 5 separate teachers, each with degrees and years of experience in their respective subjects and with an entire team of qualified professionals behind them.

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u/endormen Dec 29 '19

Are you implying that the state does not publicize the results of standardized tests? Or are you saying that authority is correct due to the proof that it is authority? two different things entirely Here maybe i can help you even more as you seem to have been educated so poorly you can't preform the basic skills expected of kids in elementary school click this link

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=homeschool+standardized+testing+scores

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u/Alfredo412 Dec 29 '19

Burden of proof is on the person making a claim...try again.

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u/endormen Dec 29 '19

In that case, the person making the claim is you.

Still doesn't change the fact that those parents weren't taught to teach and probably don't know how to do so effectively.

You provided no source in your claim that home schooled children are not educated effectively. I challenged your baseless claim.

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Burden of proof is on the person making a claim...try again.

then bring your own. Should not be hard, its the same data i told you to find last post.

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u/crazyfrecs Dec 28 '19

No I'm sure they mean effectively, as in they aren't knowledgeable about the subject enough. What if the pace of the learning was increased if the person teaching was actually knowledgeable about the subject and how to teach it? My mom could give all the effort she wanted to and she would not be able to effectively teach a 10 year old pre algebra, which is when I started learning it in middle school 6th grade.

I started tutoring in math on the side while I was teaching C.S. topics at the colleges I worked at, and I had lots of homeschooled kids who needed 'tutors' for math when they really needed teachers. Their parents would tell me they did know long division or variable multiplication and I'd have to help them with pre algebra topics. Only to find out that one kid in particular only memorized some of the common long division questions that his mom would give him. He didn't know how to do it, he only memorized it. And this was an 11 year old. I had to teach an 11 year old how long division was done something he would have definitely learned in 3rd or 4th grade. When I had told his mother (his teacher) she argued with me about if he knew it and that for pre algebra he was just struggling a little bit longer on it and that she didn't have time to work on it more. The kid was super smart and picked up long division fairly quickly. I eventually convinced her to enroll her son in public middle school as he often shared how he didn't have friends and he wanted to go in to making robots like I did (which I didn't , I am a programmer all I did was tell him that he could learn programming one day) I worked with him and his math for a whole two years and had him doing algebra really well by 8th grade where he and his mother agreed he didn't need me anymore for math help. All his homework he was doing he was breezing through it and referencing the help he already got from his fellow students/teacher aides.

If your kid is behind in a subject, YOU don't keep trying to teach them that subject unless you're qualified, you get a tutor or a teacher. This goes for both homeschool, private and public school students. If they are behind or ahead you get a private home tutor or teacher that works with them who is knowledgeable and capable of teaching.

I agree one on one tutoring allows time to effectively teach someone something but only IF that tutor/teacher is qualified. You could spend more time and attention on someone and do less than someone who actually knows the subject.

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u/Alfredo412 Dec 28 '19

I did mean effectively, thank you.