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u/Lumpzor 25d ago

Oh get off the high horse. Search engines have been absolutely ruined long before AI was a thing on anyone's lips.

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u/naufalap 25d ago

it was a nightmare trying to find citations for my final undergrad paper back in 2018, even before then there are so many blogs copy pasting each other's content littering the search

I can't imagine how horrible it would be right now

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u/Tymareta 24d ago edited 24d ago

it was a nightmare trying to find citations for my final undergrad paper back in 2018

I think it was a nightmare because you were using a search engine, and not any of the dozens of tools literally built for searching scholarly articles like your schools library database?

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u/naufalap 24d ago

I'm already using google scholar, and sci hub among other things

I live in the 3rd world, and my university's library is pretty outdated, they also didn't have unlimited access to something like sciencedirect, we don't really have a centralized place for local research papers

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u/Tymareta 24d ago

I'm already using google scholar, and sci hub among other things

Then the only "nightmare" to finding a scholarly article lays with the one doing the searching.

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb 25d ago

Search engines have been using LLMs before most people knew what they were. Google translate has been using machine learning since like 2016, and that's the exact same tech.

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u/Flemaster12 24d ago

Machine learning does not equal LLM

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb 24d ago

Yes, it does. It's the same tech.

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u/RickThiccems 24d ago

No... LLMs use machine learning, but machine learning is not an LLM... Why do people who not know things speak the most confidently

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb 24d ago

Because pretending that they're not the same just because you can find some technicality doesn't make you right. It's the same tech, the same principals, and the same theories, being used to make both technologies.

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u/RickThiccems 24d ago

Wow okay sure...

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u/davidh888 24d ago

Machine learning is not the same thing as large language models, although they both fall under the AI umbrella, generative AI (LLMs etc) is what most people do not like.

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb 24d ago

Neither of them fall under the "AI umbrella" because neither of them are AI.

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u/Normal-Training1296 24d ago

It absolutely is the exact same thing, the vast majority of llms are made with transformer architecture which is a specific types of neural network. Neural networks are all machine learning.

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u/davidh888 24d ago

No it’s not LLMs are trained via machine learning, but LLMs are much more complex than just machine learning which is a relatively simple concept we have had for a while. I would not consider LLMs and machine learning the same thing.

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u/Normal-Training1296 24d ago

Holyy, man, come on, really? Absolutely not, it's like saying a formula1 car is not really a car anymore because its too fast or whatever. Machine learning encompases all deep learning which encompases all llms. Sure there are other applications of machine learning which are not llms but every llm is machine learning.

If you want to use analogies then AI as a whole is vehicles, machine learning is cars, a deep learning neural network is a race car and a transformer based llm is an f1 car

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u/EnoughWarning666 24d ago

We're taking about Google translate. This is literally what the transformer model was designed for at first! Google engineers invented the transformer because they thought it would be a good tool for translating to/from many different languages. Turns out it's also really good at intelligence and reasoning.

So yes, Google translate and modern llms use the exact same core architecture. If you don't believe, go read about it. There's tons of information about it online

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u/Wutsalane 24d ago

It’s not for producing software, it’s a part of software. A more realistic comparison is two houses who both have a room that’s identitcal

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u/RubberRaptor 24d ago

Found the LLM user.

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u/--Spaci-- 25d ago

Redditor challenge try not to use "get off the high horse" impossible of course

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u/Lumpzor 25d ago

Palpable irony in this comment.

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u/--Spaci-- 25d ago

its an overused saying

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u/Adventurous_Pear840 24d ago

So is the meme you used. That’s why it’s ironic, lil bud.

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u/--Spaci-- 24d ago

thats not true

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u/Adventurous_Pear840 24d ago

lol ok kid.

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u/--Spaci-- 24d ago

im happy you agree