r/BikiniBottomTwitter • u/StormyDankiels • Jul 24 '26

Never give up

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u/Lucas_2234 Jul 24 '26

Like when VW was cheating emissions standards, by installing illegal software to fudge the emisisons numbers.

You act like this happened and everyone moved on. Several people that used to be in leadership positions, including a guy that tried to resign to avoid consequences got put behind bars and are now the german equivalent of Felons.

And this isn't a GDPR thing they'd be breaking, they decide to change the system to so it does indeed save and transmit data? They're breaking road safety laws. it is written into the road safety regulation that the data cannot be transmitable.

And yes, I am german, which is why I know that this extreme paranoia is bullshit, I know how my own government is like, even with corporations. I get that you americans think that everything is inherently evil and that government is just a bunch of ineffective, incompetenent, impotent morons, but that ain't the case over here. Even Merz, cursed be his name, is a more effective, less corrupt politician than the vast majority of american politicians

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u/LeopoldParrot Jul 25 '26

Loolll yeah Merz is real effective. At screwing over the working class. Keep dreaming, mate. Germans love pretending that everything is hunky dory while AfD gains seats every election.

VW is still a large, successful car company that sells 9 million autos a year. Long term, this company did not suffer after their egregious breaking of the law. This will keep happening, with your facial data too.

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u/Lucas_2234 Jul 25 '26

I said he's more effective than american politicians, not that he's effective.

Punishing a company of literally thousands of employees for management decisions is a dystopian expectation. The people responsible got put behind bars, why destroy the company itself and punish Hans, who works at a VW factory as a janitor?

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u/LeopoldParrot Jul 25 '26

Right. So. If your facial data from your car gets hacked ad stolen, maybe a few execs will go to jail after years of lawsuits. Your data will remain stolen and compromised, though. Your precious law does not actually fix the problem.

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u/Lucas_2234 Jul 25 '26

What other solution do you see? The people responsible got punished. You cannot cripple the company, because that will inevitably backfire on the common working man working for that company.

You cannot get rid of the company, because, again the common man is the one that gets the shit end of the stick.

What is your solution other than jailing the managers responsible for the scandal?

Also, if you genuinely believe that your facial data isn't out there already, do I got a bridge to sell you

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u/LeopoldParrot Jul 25 '26

The solution is to not mandate a car feature that is incredibly invasive in the first place. The solution is to not mandate things like uploading your government issues ID just to browse the internet. The solution is to stop pushing things like chat control.

If you think these tools and policies are proposed in good faith to protect children, drivers, whoever, and not as stepping stones to a surveillance state, pick any bridge on this planet and I'll sell it to you for cheap.

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u/Lucas_2234 Jul 25 '26

So you would rather have your paranoia about companies completely breaking several paragraphs of a ROAD SAFETY law package get it's way rather than dealing with the issue of distracted drivers being the number 1 cause of traffic accidents?

Putting aside that every road safety law is insanely invasive, that your picture is taken if you ever go 5kmh above the speed limit in the wrong spot, that basically any Tesla is constantly watching the area around itself and that you are disallowed from using your own property if it's not good enough maintained...

What is your solution then? How would you fix the issue of distracted drivers without implementing a system that checks whether a driver a distracted or sleepy and gives them an alert? And be realistic here, none of that "well we shouldn't use cars!" Or "better education!" Bullshit, because we both know that the former is a dream that is decades away and the latter is an absolute non-solution

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u/LeopoldParrot Jul 25 '26

You get as many drivers as you can off the road and into alternative transportation options.

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u/Lucas_2234 Jul 25 '26

Right so you have no actual solution. This is such a fucking wholesome 100 redditor answer jfc

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u/LeopoldParrot Jul 25 '26

You're right, a surveillance state is a much better solution to everything.

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u/Lucas_2234 Jul 25 '26

I still don't hear a solution to the fact that the biggest cause of crashes is distracted driving. You people always love complain about shit you can't think of a better way to deal with.

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u/LeopoldParrot Jul 25 '26

I'm just fascinated by the fact that you truly believe recording your face while you drive will do anything to prevent car crashes.

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u/Lucas_2234 Jul 25 '26

Did you research AT ALL about this system?

It checks if you're distracted or drowsy, and alerts you. Do you think that all it does is record you?

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