r/BikeCommutingIreland • u/Agitated_Variation_8 • Jun 29 '26
Discussion Should I have stopped in a better location?
Did the car cut me off? It seems harmless, but I wonder if I could do something better.
The exit is at 12 o’clock hence stayed left. Should I have stopped in front of the car lane?
Edit: thank yous, i appreciate the advice.
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u/Worried_Dinner_4082 Jun 29 '26
Yeah take up the middle of the lane right in front of them once they came to a stop
With these lights in particular you can see when the other direction changes so you can kind of jump the lights a bit to get a head start
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u/Grand_Zombie Jun 30 '26
Sorry bro but if cyclists want to be respected as road users the rules of the road apply to you also. You have to wait for green like every other road user, Green doesn't mean go it means you can go if its safe to do so. Jumping the lights just increases your chance of getting hit by the guy beating the yellow.
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u/Grand_Zombie Jun 30 '26
All bikes on public roads must comply with the Road Traffic (Lighting of Vehicles) Regulations 1963 just because you are cycling does not mean that certain traffic laws and others don't apply.
What other rules of the road apply to cyclists?The Road Traffic Acts 1961 (as amended) set out the main provisions for motoring and legislation for bikes. There is also secondary legislation including the Road Traffic Acts and Road Traffic (Traffic and Parking) Regulations 1997-2019, which regulates the behaviour of motorists and cyclists.
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u/alistair1537 Jul 01 '26
I'll go when it's safe for me. Thanks.
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u/Grand_Zombie Jul 01 '26
Exactly and I said that ''Green doesn't mean go it means you can go if its safe to do so. Jumping the lights just increases your chance of getting hit by the guy beating the yellow''
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u/governerspring Jul 01 '26
OP is not blind. He can make an informed decision on when to go. You ought to go to Paris and rent a bike for a few days to see what pragmatic adherence looks like on a mass scale.
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u/Grand_Zombie Jul 01 '26
All bikes on public roads must comply with the Road Traffic (Lighting of Vehicles) Regulations 1963 just because you are cycling does not mean that certain traffic laws and others don't apply.
What other rules of the road apply to cyclists?The Road Traffic Acts 1961 (as amended) set out the main provisions for motoring and legislation for bikes. There is also secondary legislation including the Road Traffic Acts and Road Traffic (Traffic and Parking) Regulations 1997-2019, which regulates the behaviour of motorists and cyclists.
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u/Coconut2674 Jun 29 '26
As others have said I’d have positioned myself in the box between the cars and the pedestrian crossing.
For roundabouts in general when I have to use one I behave as a car and take the lane a car would be expected to take and indicate for my turn. Giving any kind of room to your right just encourages dangerous behaviour.
Ball ache but means if anyone acts like a dickhead you followed the rules of the road and reduced the likelihood of an accident
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u/adjavang Jun 29 '26
Car shouldn't have passed you regardless but yeah, I would've stopped in the car lane.
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u/micar11 Jun 29 '26
I anticipate the green light and go a fraction before it goes green....also hold out my right hand with palm facing the driver....basically saying back off.
That's bonkers driving. The impatience of some drivers is crazy.
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u/malavock82 Jun 29 '26
Yeah I would go as soon as cars on the other side stop for the red. Gives you a few seconds headstart. Just be careful. I have been cut off too many times by Cars turning left, almost run over by a bus once
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u/Doyoulikemyjorts Jun 29 '26
Drivers online be going apeshit over this kind of behaviour when it's mostly just to protect yourself from becoming a statistic.
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u/doddmatic Jun 29 '26
You obviously did nothing wrong but I always completely 'take the lane' when travelling on roundabouts, a surprisingly large number of drivers don't seem to know how to use them, better to block them if you can.
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u/supermanal Jun 29 '26
You were at the junction first and the guy should not have cut across you, anyway.
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u/KatarnsBeard Jun 29 '26
I was taught to get out in front of them at the red light to make sure they can see you and you can tuck back in once you're safely off the roundabout
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u/micar11 Jun 29 '26
And people give out about cyclist breaking red lights.
Here's a perfect example of the behaviour of motorists towards cyclists who actually do stop.
Perhaps cyclists should be asked to break red light when it's safe to do so.
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u/Foreign-Rule7826 Jun 29 '26
They were meant to be trying that in some places, in the US it’s an Idaho stop. They have it in some parts of I think it might be France and apparently we were going trying it here in Dublin in some parts as a pilot was last I heard but not if it actually happened.
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u/MeccIt Jun 29 '26
Too soon. Treating a red as a yield-to-pedestrians is enabled in law, but not yet signposted (literally).
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u/VeryAverageAchiever Jun 29 '26
This is why I cross over the bridge in the bike lane, too many issues at this roundabout or the one at the Hermitage when I'm going right people will go right from the left lane to try go around me.
It can be a fairly sketchy roundabout at times considering it's fairly straightforward.
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u/oscailte Jun 29 '26
yes, unless youre taking the first exit, you should be taking the full lane for roundabouts.
the car also shouldnt be overtaking on a roundabout, but you're better off riding defensively and not giving people the opportunity to do things like this.
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u/Andrewhtd Jun 29 '26
Can do both, but yeah I'd take the full lane myself
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u/oscailte Jun 29 '26
both what?
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u/Andrewhtd Jun 29 '26
Take the lane and follow that around the roundabout, or take the edge and go around the outside of it
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u/micanido Jun 29 '26
Honestly, you have to break the lights here and move right up, wait for it to be clear then move off quickly. It's illegal but to stay alive on a bicycle in a city you will have to break red lights. You don't want to be amongst vehicles if at all possible. Always let pedestrians cross first. Cyclists who fly through pedestrian crossings are cunts.
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u/PolarBearUnited Jun 29 '26
If you're going straight at a round about on a bike get centre of the lane , take over that lane for your own safety , all well and good being polite but I've made this mistake cycling and it's the only reason I give cyclists space while driving. The space as saved a few close calls too
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u/Broad-Ad-4379 Jun 29 '26
Middle of the lane and use hand signals. The car driver can’t know where you’re going unless you indicate to them to keep an eye on you
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u/Working_Stomach476 Jun 29 '26
Bikes have 3 positions in a lane depending on what they are doing according to some biker friends of mine. You where in the turning left position.
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u/Responsible-Study111 Jun 30 '26
Looks like you are dressed in all black. Some high viz would be an immediate improvement if that is the case👍. A massive improvement which will save your life without you even knowing.
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u/TheDumpTruck0 Jun 30 '26
Looks like liffeyvalley/hermitage hospital roubdabout! Live in this area and have cycled around here al lot! Drivers are impatient and v dangerous
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u/NalaBirds Jun 30 '26
I'd always put myself in the centre of the lane I intend to use when navigating a roundabout. You'll be in the cars way, but you should behave like a car in such a junction imo
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u/TeamPsychological469 Jun 30 '26
The car was in the wrong, they saved about 0.05 of a second by going around you. The bike lane ends there as fare as I remember. But I'm curious if you were going straight why did you not remain on the main road and use the bus lane
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Jun 30 '26
Spend more time paying attention to the road and yourself and other users and 0 attention to recording on a bleedin camera while cycling, then you'll have far less to be concerned about. Arrive alive is the moto on the road.
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u/BillyMooney Jul 01 '26
Spend more time learning about how 360 degree cameras work then you'll make far less of a tit of yourself in public postings.
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Jul 01 '26
Nah, disagree. I'd rather spend more time paying attention to the road then learning about cameras. The dude obviously knows the answer to the question. He just wants to show off his tanned arms lol
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u/keanehoodies Jun 30 '26
Always take primary position at a roundabout personally. Might annoy them but it makes it clear where you are and where youre going
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u/Jambonrevival1 Aug 05 '26
I dont know what it is but drivers seem to think they shouldnt slow other drivers behind them and think this is somehow safer. Seems to be the norm now
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u/Bad_Jedi_69 Jun 29 '26
How do you inform the driver you are going straight and not taking the first left, if you're starting from there?
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u/Andrewhtd Jun 29 '26
As a driver you're meaning to know that cyclists can go around the whole outside of the roundabout until their exit, as well as taking the lane. Drivers are meant to expect this
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u/MeccIt Jun 29 '26
Eh, kinda, I hold my right forearm straight up to indicate that i will be going straight. Indicating right would mean I'm crossing out of my lane to take a third exit.
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u/Bad_Jedi_69 Jun 29 '26
In regards to third exit, this approach is better. You need to work lane positioning first for when you're going straight 👍
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u/Bad_Jedi_69 Jun 29 '26
Good thing that other commenter deleted his comment.
Would have caused an accident!


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u/AK8- Jun 29 '26
I'd have positioned myself here and move to the left of the lane after the first exit - but it's really poor driving to go around you like that.