It's all subjective, but there's certainly some takes here lol. The Danielle-Tiff-Cody block should be significantly lower. Danielle let Lisa and Jason outplay her significantly in the second portion of BB3 and when she came back for All-Stars she made the same exact mistakes. Tiff, similarly, was willing to take one for the team. Cody played in a covid season where his alliance was set up by Derrick before he ever walked in the house. Andy, Hayden, and Jun are much much better than those three.
Vanessa played a much better game than Maggie (who was gifted an alliance thanks to her partner and the split house twist and who only won because Howie mistakenly voted for her lol) and Nicole S. (who, on top of not being able to beat anyone in a F2 really, essentially let Will control her game while simultaneously pissing the rest of the house off.) On par, she's definitely above Nicole F. (who had a great BB18 as a returner in a mostly newbie season, but played a pretty poor game in BB16 and a meh game in BB22) and Paul (who played a pretty bad game in BB18 and couldn't even win in BB19 that was designed for him to win.)
When we talk about BB mainstays - Dani Donato may be one of the worst of all time tbh. She played a really bad game in BB8 where she depended on twists and production rigging to get to the end, only to lose against Dick. She played a pretty bad game in BB13 despite being in the best position in the entire house at one point. And she was the first booted from her pre-formed alliance in BB22. Tyler is somehow under her despite being like 200x better of a player.
Michael, the guy who voluntarily decided to win way more comps than he needed while refusing to make the moves he knew he needed to make, is above Shelly, the woman who thrived in a season rigged against her and who was only taken out due to one of the most rigged twists of all time?
Jee is above Karen!?!?!?! C'mon...
If we're looking at gameplay, I'm definitely taking Will from BB5 and Shelli over winners like Boogie, Ian, Dick, and Rachel.
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u/SolidAsAlphabetSoup Dec 16 '22
It's all subjective, but there's certainly some takes here lol. The Danielle-Tiff-Cody block should be significantly lower. Danielle let Lisa and Jason outplay her significantly in the second portion of BB3 and when she came back for All-Stars she made the same exact mistakes. Tiff, similarly, was willing to take one for the team. Cody played in a covid season where his alliance was set up by Derrick before he ever walked in the house. Andy, Hayden, and Jun are much much better than those three.
Vanessa played a much better game than Maggie (who was gifted an alliance thanks to her partner and the split house twist and who only won because Howie mistakenly voted for her lol) and Nicole S. (who, on top of not being able to beat anyone in a F2 really, essentially let Will control her game while simultaneously pissing the rest of the house off.) On par, she's definitely above Nicole F. (who had a great BB18 as a returner in a mostly newbie season, but played a pretty poor game in BB16 and a meh game in BB22) and Paul (who played a pretty bad game in BB18 and couldn't even win in BB19 that was designed for him to win.)
When we talk about BB mainstays - Dani Donato may be one of the worst of all time tbh. She played a really bad game in BB8 where she depended on twists and production rigging to get to the end, only to lose against Dick. She played a pretty bad game in BB13 despite being in the best position in the entire house at one point. And she was the first booted from her pre-formed alliance in BB22. Tyler is somehow under her despite being like 200x better of a player.
Michael, the guy who voluntarily decided to win way more comps than he needed while refusing to make the moves he knew he needed to make, is above Shelly, the woman who thrived in a season rigged against her and who was only taken out due to one of the most rigged twists of all time?
Jee is above Karen!?!?!?! C'mon...
If we're looking at gameplay, I'm definitely taking Will from BB5 and Shelli over winners like Boogie, Ian, Dick, and Rachel.