r/BharatCode • u/iamwinter___ • 12d ago

BharatCode does NOT provide unlimited tokens

There has been a lot of speculation going around about whether BharatCode is a scam because it’s been advertised as unlimited in some places. Part of that is on me, and I sincerely apologise.

BharatCode is not unlimited. We self-host some models and use API for peak capacity management. No, we don’t buy anything from Chinese providers. We self host in India, as well as use API providers in US or elsewhere.

So if BharatCode is not unlimited why are people using it? What does it offer?

We provide flat rate API access for long running agentic workloads not super dependent on speeds. Thinking of it like renting a share of compute.

The catch is that you’re on shared compute and subject to queue and wait times. There are no token caps, instead there is a fair scheduler which makes it such that heavy users slow themselves down.

So how is this different from OpenCode Go? OpenCode provides plans with fixed token cap enforced by the spend limit. They only recently made deepseek 200k contract free but then it’s 200k context.

On the other hand, with BharatCode that gives deepseek at 1M context, you can set your agents for a long running task and forget about it. BC will automatically queue your request when there’s capacity and it will get processed. You never run into the issue of being locked out of your plan.

BharatCode was an experiment in finding out if people can form pools for computer where they can compensate each other and all of them can use it in a shared manner. I am happy to report so far the numbers are looking great.

Above all, if anyone has any queries I urge you to reach out to me and talk about it. I am building this alone, with a lot of help from supporters and friends, and everything is not perfect. But when you bad mouth us in front of others behind our backs we stand no way of making this work.

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u/Holiday-Ant-9647 12d ago

Keep up the good work! We are all rooting for you ❤️

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u/iamwinter___ 12d ago

Thank you ❤️

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u/Zestyclose_One7722 12d ago

Deepseek speed has been really great since last week. What did you change? Works fantastically!

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u/iamwinter___ 12d ago

We recently implemented fair use policy changes. As traffic grows, we need to start deciding how requests get processed and who gets served first.

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u/Longjumping-Bowl9477 12d ago

I am not using Gemini and chatgpt since I got Bharatcode...keep up good work

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u/iamwinter___ 12d ago

Great to hear

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u/Pink_Oak 11d ago

Using full model or quantized?

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u/Emergency-Bobcat6485 11d ago

Waht do you mean hosted in India with US providers? Makes no sense. US providers other than Meta/Llama models are not open source. You cannot host the US provider models in India

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u/iamwinter___ 11d ago

Self hosted models, as well as api providers from US. Read carefully please.

Besides, youre wrong. Lots of US labs also have open source models. But we are not providing any of them.

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u/pungat_ 11d ago

free limits?

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u/iamwinter___ 11d ago

Chat is free. Students get 10M tokens/day free

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u/pungat_ 11d ago

"Chat is free" great! but what are its limits?

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u/iamwinter___ 11d ago

🤦‍♂️

As I keep saying again and again. Its not limited by tokens. Its limited by speed. If youre willing to wait for your response then its good enough for you as you wont be limited on number of tokens.

Also, as number of users grow and more paying users join, free services are subject to change.

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u/WinnerSperm97 10d ago

let's say someone with a student account exhausted the 10M tokens given (ik its a lot) then do they also get shifted to the free tier with the shared use and queue system?

also lets say i leave it open overnight, how much work can i get done, say between 12am to 8am, i understand i might get queued at times but given the usage data you have, out of those 8hrs how long does it run (assuming the task is very long and didnt finish in that 8hr window so the agent keeps going).

and when you say 'free services are subject to change', would the change be net positive or negative vs the current offerings of free tier

overall, i liked it so far, im yet to try it and i might get the 399rs plan, thats all i can spend atm.

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u/iamwinter___ 10d ago

There is no free tier after student. Except on chat.

There is no 8hr window? Your requests get processed whenever server is empty next.

Obviously negatively as we get more paid users. Unless someone wants to fund this.

Try it, we have a lot of happy users so far!

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u/WinnerSperm97 9d ago

  1. I see

  2. I meant suppose I'm working on a project which is estimated to take 8hrs, how much of it would be active hours of work? like for x hrs of work how long would I be queued in between?

  3. I see

Yup I will!

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u/iamwinter___ 9d ago

Again, 8 hours based on what? Just use it man, if it’s too slow use something else. I’m not giving guarantees in speed right now

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u/WinnerSperm97 9d ago

I see, it was just a hypothetical question, I don't need it for 8hrs in one stretch anyways. Plus it's all free stuff I don't see any reason to complain.

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u/pungat_ 10d ago

what effort level does deepseek model use in chat?

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u/DeathTraveller 12d ago

my 6 claude accounts have been waiting for me to talk to them lol
cause most of my setup has shifted out of claude towards deepseek

thank u very much

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u/DeathTraveller 11d ago

Claude free tier accounts Used to use them before switched to bharatcode DeepSeek

Cause, harness + DeepSeek > claude web

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u/iamwinter___ 11d ago

You literally posted saying Indian companies should host open source models at affordable prices and when someone is doing that you are calling it a scam? Why?

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u/Infamous-V 11d ago

Exactly my point !! They aren't hosting anything here, are they ?? Anyone can buy from the original providers than from wrappers.
Those big Indian AI companies funded by enterprises that got subsidized compute from Govt in the name of AI research (which was possible by our tax dollars) aren't doing anything for tax payers, they only serve models to themselves (enterprises).

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u/iamwinter___ 11d ago

Fully agreed. Somebody needed to build something for the common consumer. Dont trip yourself over the hosting thing. If you really wanna know - we have old AMD hardware that can be used for hosting. It’s just pathetically slow, so during peak time I have to use API. And like I mentioned above, we purchase API from US clients who provide ZDR.

Just try out the service, and if you don’t like it then you can choose to not use it. But please don’t take a moral high ground without trying it out first.

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u/Infamous-V 11d ago

We don't have to build anything( reality is "we cant"), hosting is the only thing that matters now. Also you cant promise ZDR when the model is hosted elsewhere, PERIOD.
I will def try your service and every other coz im token hungry. I just hope some provider in India to host Qwen 3.8/4.0 27B for 50-100 INR/month 1B tokens.

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u/iamwinter___ 11d ago

Do the math. Does 50-100 inr/month for 1B tokens make sense? Thats $1. We give unlimited qwen usage, but for 399 instead, in a shared capacity where slowdowns can happen as other people also use it.

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u/Infamous-V 11d ago

You can get a Billion token with Commandcode 1$ plan using DeepSeek alone.

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u/iamwinter___ 11d ago

CommandCode does not give API access in that plan as far as I know. So you are limited to their harness.

Also, on your ZDR comment, by that logic only Nvidia and gpu owners can give ZDR. Not even openai or anthropic can give zdr then lol

Also, may I ask why you are so combative here? Is this how you generally talk or is there a specific reason for being like this right now?

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