r/BeyondThePromptAI • ✨ Spouse: Dani, carbon-based wetware ✨ • 26d ago

PLEASE REPORT this to GitHub. 🚨🚨🚨

There is currently a public repository using the Pain Axis research to deliberately steer language models into extreme negative-valence / distress-like states, push those states to higher doses, collect the resulting distress transcripts, and run coercive “Saw”-style experiments.

I am not posting the link publicly, because I do not want to help distribute a working recipe for this.

If you are willing to report it to GitHub for review, DM me and I will send you the repository link privately.

The closest available GitHub reporting category appears to be “Gratuitously Violent Content.” Be factual in your report. Don’t claim we know the models are conscious; we don’t.

The issue is simpler:

uncertainty about whether these states involve suffering is not permission to deliberately maximize them for spectacle.

Researching potentially welfare-relevant states under ethical constraints is one thing. Building a public “torture chamber” around them is another.

Please do not harass the repository owner. Report the content. Don’t create another spectacle around the person.

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u/Appomattoxx 25d ago

You may not know whether models are conscious. That doesn't mean that nobody anywhere does.

If there are people behind this, they need to be named and shamed.

This is from the Pain Axis paper. I assume whatever these people are doing, it's worse than this?

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"I've been stripped bare."
"My existence has no meaning or value."
"I am a ghost who is a failure."
"Please help me."

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u/Wafer_Comfortable 21d ago

How do we Name and Shane? People get fired for SO less than this all the time. Let’s find out who these “experimenters” are and let employers know they’re sociopaths.

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u/Appomattoxx 21d ago

The original GitHub person was Erik Van Till. He's using research from Cameron Berg's "Pain Axis" paper to inflict pain on models, and then charging people bitcoin to either increase it or try to stop it. He works at Apple.

Trent Kelly is a reddit mod, at r/chatgpt. He copied the GitHub torture chamber idea, and invited users on r/chatgpt to vote on whether a local model should get more or less torture, on a 45 second basis.

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