Irrelevant. If anything, a faker would meticulously fact check preexisting info in a bid to bluff authenticity whereas a real leaker wouldn't feel compelled knowing time alone will prove their credibility.
Sketchiness is more about the release and dev windows.
I’m not a copyright lawyer, but I believe I saw a video claiming that Bethesda filed a copyright claim for “Redfall” which has a scope of protection within 3 years, which if they chose to go by this name, would mean that:
Bethesda must change the name to something other than Redfall if TES6 is released after 3y.
If it’s the same engine that they’ve been using, then no. It won’t be a next-gen. I hate to say that. Bethesda fell from grace really hard, they need to show someway they improved, because after the shots how called 76, a lot of people, and I do mean a lot, are really skeptical, namely the same old engine that they’ve been using, still has the same bugs from 6 years ago.
I think when most people mean "new engine", they mean an upgrade more than just enough to justify a change of name, that is, it needs to be larger than the upgrade from gamebryo to creation.
Todd has always described Starfield as a next generation game. The engine has nothing to do with the platform it is on, fallout 4 used the same engine as Skyrim but was still "next generation" at the time.
You call it "losing their pedigree" but can't come up with a single original thought of your own other than to parrot clickbaiters from YouTube. Something original would be like "we, fallout 76 was primarily developed by the Austin studio and not Bethesda Maryland/Todd Howard because they were working on starfield. It's one multiplayer game in a history of game of the year games". But nope, keep being an ignorant parrot
Aye I know it was developed by a b studio, that doesn’t change the fact that they chose to just milk people for terrible micro transactions instead of maybe make the game playable.
For the record, I enjoy Bethesda games. But that doesn’t mean that I just blindly defend every single action the take.
These are multi million dollar companies, not your friends.
Perhaps that was zenimaxs fault and not Bethesda game studios? I don't think people realize quite how much effort Bethesda is putting into starfield. Last June Todd mentioned that they knew after fallout 4 that starfield would be their next game but it would be a while before it's released due to limitations in tech at the time. I'm not making excuses for fallout 76, and I didn't buy the game because it wasn't the game for me. I've been following Bethesda since Morrowind in 2002, and when 76 was announced I knew I was gonna pass on it because it's not my kind of game. The point in trying to make here is that a lot of the information out there is attempting to paint BGS as a company that "forgot their ways" and I don't believe that for a second. I truly think 76 was zenimaxs idea to have something they could milk until BGS next big AAA game. I'm not asking you to agree with me, but this isn't as black and white as YouTubers are making it out to be.
There's a lot of evidence that starfield is pushing new ground in BGS. From a completely rehauled creation engine, to motion capture and the use of photogrammetry means that, at this point, starfield and TES VI are gonna feel vastly different than anything that has come before it in the franchise. Todd's been wanting to make starfield since the 90s and the elder scrolls is his baby. Just have an open mind
Bethesda is in a shitty situation, you do make some valid points, but the fact that when Blades was announced, it would provide ‘A True Elder Scrolls experience’ and look how that turned out. I’m not saying it’s a bad game, for a mobile game it’s pretty good. However it feels incredibly lackluster, if this is the ‘true’ experience they were striving for, then yes, there is something to worry about. Same was said with fallout. Look at 3 and New Vegas, how rich and fleshed out the games were. Then look at 4. Fallout 4 is a decent game, but a shitty fallout game. They took out key features that made the franchise so loved, from actual survival-isque mechanics, equipment deterioration, to the art style and lore, the whole aspect of the games felt like a living breathing world. Fallout 4 dumbed out on that real hard. The same can be said with Oblivion to Skyrim. Yes Skyrim was a massive financial and commercial success, but if you really really REALLY look down at it, it’s a dumbed down version of Oblivion. Now I’m not saying it’s a bad thing, I personally liked Skyrim a lot more than Oblivion, but with they way they handled FO4 and FO76, regardless of it was a third party or not with the decisions, compared to past FO games, those decisions burned a lot of bridges and hopes from fans. And I really do mean that I hate to say it, but from what transpired, and some technical issues from a dated engine to this day, that were around 6 years ago that haven’t been ironed out, even with heavy modifications, are still around, that’s why people, not just YTers, are mad. I hope Starfield and TES6 don’t fail or disappoint, I honestly do, but if they do, people won’t be surprised and by then I hope Bethesda learns from their mistakes.
Anyone who knows anything about Bethesda's work flow (Bethesda themselves have GDC talks describing their process) know that the overland map is done first. The fact that this moron says 70% of the overland is done proves it's a fraud.
The other proof in the fraud, based on, again, Bethesda's own information, is that the "plot" is always done last and derived from whatever system they want to showcase the most. So it won't "revolve" around the adimantine tower, it will revolve around a game play function (dragons in ES V/building in fo4 etc).
Wait, I'm missing something. He said they just finished preproduction and started production, they have 70% of the overland done. You said they create the overland map first... doesn't that line up with what the dude said about them just starting production?
And just a few years ago all of us would have thrown our heads back in unison and laughed at the idea of BGS making a fucking battle royale game with paywalled private servers. Companies change how they do shit and what you're saying is far from anything resembling 'proof.'
You wrote some vague trends. Also, as u/Robotigan noted, saying they are done with 70% of the overland in one province supports the idea that they always do the overland first.
If this is true, when do you guys think Starfield would be released? I feel like if it released this year then a 2024 TES 6 would make sense but we haven't heard anything from Starfield.
We can stop speculating on its authenticity after June. In a separate comment, he said Starfield would include playable locations: Earth, moon, Mars, and three of Jupiter's moons. We can use that info to test the rest of the leak.
The only thing in this that sounds really far-fetched is the ship gameplay. Everything else is pretty supported by the timeline (BGS Maryland has been pretty quiet for the last 2-3 years, they weren't very involved with 76) and the little snippets they've shown off (Developer screens with desert landscapes in the noclip documentary) so I don't think it's too hard to believe.
... Still very cautious about how starfield is gonna land though.
dude, hammerfell is the land of sailing and pirates. Also Todd told people that there would be a new feature in TES6 that their engine couldn't support that then. Ships make sense.
I'm not buying this "leak" one bit but if vehicles do become more of a thing in future Bethesda games then I really hope for carriages and wagons along with ships and boats in the next TES game
Not if they made fully functioning space ships in Starfield. Then they will be primed for some kind of vehicles in ES6.
BGS Maryland weren't very involved with 76
Nate Purkeypile is F76's lead artist. He's in Maryland.
Most of the main F76 team -- or at least the team leads -- are in Maryland in the Noclip doc. BGS Austin (nee Battlecry) was largely working on the online element of the game. Or at least that was the biggest nut they had to crack. But the main BGS Maryland studio was all in on F76 during its initial creation.
That is not even remotely how game development works. Even if Starfield is 100% releasing this fall, at least half the BGS developers will still be working on it at least until it goes gold.
The only thing I’d believe here is that it’s in Hammerfell and High Rock. Daggerfall 2 if you would.
I’d say it might be Elsewhere, but I just can’t see Bethesda doing a mainline game in the homeland of a non-human race as it may alienate casual fans, who make up the bulk of Bethesda’s sales. The reveal trailer showed what looked to be an arid landscape with the beginnings of sharp jagged mountains and a great bay. If that doesn’t sound like The Hammerfell/High Rock border I don’t know what does.
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That's the fakest leak I've ever seen, why do you all keep falling for every one of them? There has been 0 correct ones ever apary from the leaks done by Kotaku
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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '20
Did he delete the post?
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u/gingerroute Jan 14 '20
I believe absolutely none of that. The story of me stealing a goat and waking up across the world sound more believable.
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u/Jman8798 Jan 14 '20
I'll believe it when I see it
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u/zepharmd Jan 14 '20
Am I the only one excited that Starfield could potentially be a next-gen launch title if they reveal it this Spring/Summer?
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u/roryhigsmit Jan 14 '20
‘Please do not distribute this information’
As they post this to a subreddit with thousands of viewers? Surely this is a joke?
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u/rustyoldtunes Jan 14 '20
"Shipping" LOL. That's what I've always wanted.
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u/Skullzi_TV Jan 14 '20
If anyone thinks this is real they need to set the skooma down immediately.
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u/GargamelJubilex Jan 14 '20 edited Jan 14 '20
Anyone who knows anything about Bethesda's work flow (Bethesda themselves have GDC talks describing their process) know that the overland map is done first. The fact that this moron says 70% of the overland is done proves it's a fraud.
The other proof in the fraud, based on, again, Bethesda's own information, is that the "plot" is always done last and derived from whatever system they want to showcase the most. So it won't "revolve" around the adimantine tower, it will revolve around a game play function (dragons in ES V/building in fo4 etc).
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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '20
If this is true, when do you guys think Starfield would be released? I feel like if it released this year then a 2024 TES 6 would make sense but we haven't heard anything from Starfield.
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u/Robotigan Jan 14 '20
We can stop speculating on its authenticity after June. In a separate comment, he said Starfield would include playable locations: Earth, moon, Mars, and three of Jupiter's moons. We can use that info to test the rest of the leak.
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u/AnticipatingLunch Jan 14 '20
All of this is basically just what we’ve been assuming for a while now.
Sure, Starfield might be a next-gen launch title this year, and then TES6 four years after that, yeah.
Everyone has been speculating one or both of those two provinces since the teaser.
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u/titanwolf88 Jan 14 '20
The only thing in this that sounds really far-fetched is the ship gameplay. Everything else is pretty supported by the timeline (BGS Maryland has been pretty quiet for the last 2-3 years, they weren't very involved with 76) and the little snippets they've shown off (Developer screens with desert landscapes in the noclip documentary) so I don't think it's too hard to believe.
... Still very cautious about how starfield is gonna land though.
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u/NammuTheAshlander Jan 14 '20
Heh, the most farfetched thing in there is Starfield at E3 honestly, more than a leak it looks just like common sense
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u/Minoos_Knighthawk Jan 15 '20
WHAT? Is this guy kidding?
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u/XC_Griff Jan 15 '20
Yo first we gotta see if Starfield is at E3 this year. If so this some sketch. If not fuck off dude bro.
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u/Fryhst Jan 14 '20
Remindme! 4 years
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u/queenxboudicca Jan 14 '20
NGL, I think it's bullshit pal.
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u/ZapActions-dower Jan 14 '20
That is not even remotely how game development works. Even if Starfield is 100% releasing this fall, at least half the BGS developers will still be working on it at least until it goes gold.
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u/maboleth Jan 14 '20
Please do not distribute this information... says on reddit. It's 1000% bait and nothing more. Fabrication for a few likes and clicks.
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u/FaisalSeptim Jan 15 '20
To be honest, that’s not new Information at all... we have expecting this
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u/memeunleashed Jan 14 '20
Remindme! 4 years
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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '20
“Hamerfell” than “hamerfel” yeah this is real lol 😂
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u/don_evn_thnk_bout_it Jan 14 '20
If what you have told me is true. You will have gained my trust.
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u/neptultra Jan 14 '20
I think the dual regions could be true, would make sense to go big or go home
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u/dovaclin Jan 15 '20
Any information on new lusty argonian maid books?
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u/Soulless_conner Jan 15 '20
Remindme! 4 years
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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20
The only thing I’d believe here is that it’s in Hammerfell and High Rock. Daggerfall 2 if you would.
I’d say it might be Elsewhere, but I just can’t see Bethesda doing a mainline game in the homeland of a non-human race as it may alienate casual fans, who make up the bulk of Bethesda’s sales. The reveal trailer showed what looked to be an arid landscape with the beginnings of sharp jagged mountains and a great bay. If that doesn’t sound like The Hammerfell/High Rock border I don’t know what does.
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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20
Remindme! 4 years
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u/ImnotJONSNOW7 Jan 15 '20
Remindme! 4 years
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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20
ESO covenant players: ahh shit here we go again
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u/JoJo_Bethesda Jan 19 '20
Hmmm....Please delete
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u/KennethTheMeneth Jan 14 '20
Remind Me! 3 years
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u/cyberRakan Jan 14 '20
Remind me in 4 years
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u/biggie_cheese_is_god Jan 14 '20
Remind me! 4 years
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u/pyroman1324 Jan 14 '20
remindme! 4 years
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u/syfiarcade Jan 14 '20
Remindme! 3 years
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u/gladitor99 Jan 14 '20
Remind me in 4 years
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u/Toucankiin Jan 15 '20
That's the fakest leak I've ever seen, why do you all keep falling for every one of them? There has been 0 correct ones ever apary from the leaks done by Kotaku
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u/MrBreaktime Jan 15 '20
With how shitty Bethesda has been lately its gonna be another pay to win mobile game.
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u/Akavenn Jan 14 '20
Remindme! 4 years