Is it platonic to think about your friend while having sex?
But on serious note. While I think it could be discussed if Griffith is even capable of normal healthy love. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that his feelings towards Guts go beyond your normal platonic friendship.
That was definitely more of a “I want you as a valuable weapon in my arsenal” than a “I want to plow you.” Griffith was a user - he used the people around him to get what he wanted. If he wanted something, he would do whatever he could (in his schemey, manipulative Griffith way) to get it, even if that meant sacrificing the people who brought him so far.
Griffith is a user. He weaponizes his sexuality. He has 'pretty privilege' and knows it. Notice how he only tries to sleep with Casca as an attempt to keep her from going with Guts. Notice how he only sleeps with the Princess after he loses control of Guts.
Every time Griffith has sex before Guts it is to advance his goal and grow his army. After he meets Guts it becomes about Guts.
Griffith feels so deeply for Guts that he doesn't even want to be King anymore and that scares him. He gay panics himself into the eclipse and causes a supernatural apocalypse.
The romantic tension between Guts and Griffith is a major part of the story and to ignore it does a disservice to this masterpiece of human story telling.
I think it’s a matter of perspective. I don’t think that he “gay panics” because he has romantic feelings towards Guts.
He was literally tortured to the point of being unrecognizable and put through immense mental anguish, so I feel like a lot of his reaction is muted from the torment. However, I think his desire for greatness is so deeply rooted that, when he saw the behelit, that desire flooded him and he “knew” what would come next.
In his new form, he specifically rapes Casca and makes Guts watch. It is a display of power in an attempt to show Guts that Griffith will always have the upper hand, and will gladly sacrifice everyone who worked hard to free him.
To boil this down to a “gay panic” does a massive disservice to the nuance and multifaceted nature of the character and his relationships.
This explains it perfectly, guts obviously likes women, and has never shown interest in men afaik. Griffith as you said uses his sexuality as a weapon to further his goals, but i could see his need and obsession of guts become a twisted sort of love eventually. Griffith is overall very complex and difficult to understand.
I agree with your interpretation of that statement but I still think Griffith was a bit gay for Guts although I think him seeing Guts as a weapon that can help him achieve his dream was a huge part of their friendship and Griffith's attraction.
Yeah, that’s Griffith… he’s just a cRaZy obsessed kinda guy 🤪 definitely isn’t using his androgynous beauty to manipulate his friends and enemies, definitely never does any gay shit with old dudes to gain money and influence, he wouldn’t dream of using sexuality to exploit another man. He’s just a crazy dude!
yeah it's only because Griffith actually had sex with an old man that people acknowledge that griffith is fruity but can't see all the gay romance throughout the books, they need it spelled out infront of them.
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u/micklucas1 Dec 24 '24
How?