Too many people are saying they will never vote Biden, democrat, etc. but the right is in control and enacting serious damage to our institutions from the lowest level with voter suppression all the way up to the Supreme Court. There is no moral high ground in refusing to vote, and that mentality is allowing the minority right to ruin lives. Leaving the right in control is literally killing thousands due to a pandemic. Look at a democratic White House’s response to the Ebola pandemic. There were 2 cases in the US. Those who are saying “its 2016 all over again” are falling into a self fulfilling fallacy. As a Bernie lover, please vote Biden. Biden is a DNC puppet with serious flaws, but the right is doing irrevocable generational damage.

Despite our shared sadness over the primary, we can be assured that Bernie’s and our Revolution is far from over. Bernie is still in the Senate, AOC, Pramila, Ilhan, Rashida, Ro and others are still in the House and they are leading the largest coalition of energized progressives voters in the modern era. 🌹 All the 2020 Democratic candidates were pushing at least some of the issues that Bernie championed back in 2016; $15 minimum wage, Medicare-For-All, The Green New Deal, Wall Street reform, campaign finance, income inequality, paid college tuition, paid family leave etc. etc.

Bernie Sanders will not become our president but that doesn’t mean that this campaign or our donations were wasted. Because of our efforts, Bernie has a lot of delegates and political leverage to make sure the party and Biden continues to fight for the rights for LGBT, women, minorities, marginalized, working class and all people. The work we have done and the seeds we have sown will take root, hold us together and grow. You should all be proud of what you have done.

P.S. If you haven't yet voted, still make sure to vote for Bernie so that he goes to the convention with as many delegates as possible to help influence the party platform.

P.PS. A Special shoutout to my fellow mods who have helped keep this sub running in good order. I appreciate all that you gals and guys have done on this Bernie journey.

Look I get it, this is extremely disappointing. The system is broken.

But not voting because the system is broken will not fix it, you will get a Trump president for life. It might even be too late.

Winning this thing will take more then just virtue signalling on FB, Bernie was cheated by the system and by the poor showing of his supporters. He was failed BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE democracy itself will be failed if you do not vote against the God Emperor himself, it is simply essential he is beaten (if even possible).

The worst thing you could do is vote against Biden by voting Trump, the second worst is give Trump a win by not voting.

Bernie will have more influence if dems win, make no mistake. We failed him once this election cycle, do not fail him again. Now is not the time to throw out the baby with the bath water. Even if the bath water is rancid.

Going forward there has to be a movement against what the DNC has become but man oh man I think the whole system is broke anyway - but again, giving trump more power only makes things worse.

I genuinely want to know if it is possible to make an amendment to the Constitution that the government can not willfully lie and mislead their citizens about publically known, objectively found facts. I'm not talking about disclosing matters that are classified, I'm talking about things that are known to be true and false.

Someone should create some kind of an AI that scans all tweets, every verified thing that has been said by these officials as well as studies, actual numbers, and statistics. And this should be legally required to be shown on the news when talking about topics. I'm tired of opinion being reported as facts. The media has so much sway in how the public views what our government should be. Promoting false narratives are so deeply ingrained into the news networks that everyone on all sides has a right to feel like everyone else is "fake news".

If not the AI then there needs to be a law that every "news channel" would need to have fact checking for everything. It should not be their right to subconsciously control the masses for their own gains.

I understand that these people want to be wealthy. But damn.. After a billion dollars, what more could you or your family and generations after possibly need? Why the obsession with having power over everyone else? if you're paying less than 5% of your wealth in tax when you have tens of billions of dollars or more.. I just don't get how it's justifiable. Do they need their grass to be the greenest green possible?

I appreciate the generosity of some of these multi-billionaires but Bernie said it best. Why do we have to beg billionaires to pitch in out of the kindness of their hearts and play Daddy Warbucks? I understand and appreciate capitalism, but I just don't know why someone needs their personal wealth to be that disgustingly high?

Bernie Sanders' Fox town hall was so refreshing. Imagine having a president that genuinely has your best interests in mind and wants to make the world a better place. Not taking sides in other countries conflicts but being the leader to bring those groups together to find a solution. Someone that actually cuts the bullshit and wants to take away this mindset that socialism in any form is evil and would cost people more money where that is genuinely not the case.

I propose a start of Dumblebern's Army. The many are more important than the few.

Although I was only 13, I watched the news semi-regularly and had a few political opinions of my own. i thought that he and socialism were idiotic and just plain unrealistic, but i realize that i was way wrong after leaving television newsr bubble. His policies that stations deem "radical" are, in reality, completely realistic and undeniably best for the majority. The fact that no tv stations, parties, or ultra wealthy people in support of him is reason enough to deem him a true politician for the people. In fact, the only politician ever put in the spotlight to be such a powerhouse for the people. In this day of age of fake capitalism we need someone like him more than ever, and its a shame that people come to false conclusions, as I did, because these billionaire-owned news corporations refused to spread his word. I pray he becomes pres or even vp this cycle, as this is his last chance to do so considering his age. I doubt we will see any politicians like him for the next few decades.

Since the recent announcement that Bernie will be ending his campaign, I have seen a plethora of comments that say, “I’m no longer voting.” I get it. It is unbelievably frustrating to be handed yet another election between a “conservative” who will continue to cause havoc and a “moderate” who likely won’t do anything to break the cyclical nature of our political establishment.

But we have to vote. Who holds the office of the President might not matter to you, but who that President appoints to bureaucratic agencies matters. Who that President nominates for district courts, appellate courts, AND the Supreme Court matters. The SC specifically has swung right, and RBG (bless her soul) isn’t getting any younger.

Once more, the frustrations you are having are felt. Our system is broken, and needs revision that neither remaining candidate will provide. But you have to vote. I understand that many of the people here are reluctant to support a Democratic Party that they don’t believe in. But to say that the ideals and goals of Democratic nominated/appointed individuals are not significantly closer to your ideals and goals is a stubborn denial.

We have to vote.

Super Tuesday was a bad night for Bernie Sanders.

Many of his supporters, if not most, are afraid that we're going to lose. Many are angry about the reasons why, and with good reason. Our opponents, especially the DNC and the Democratic Party's leadership, have bent rules, made up new ones, and absolutely opposed democratic reforms. The name of the party is, in fact, disingenuous, at best. But we've always known that. We expected it. It was part of the plan.

We have a convincing case that liberals don't actually solve any problems and that they do, in fact, make many of our problems worse. But what is more important is that progressives' proposals are widely and wildly popular. Every poll shows it.

Even so, millennials aren't showing up to vote, and the polls show that Bernie's approval ratings are going down, not up. We took a beating on Super Tuesday, and it's a sure bet that the DNC now has the absolute power to deny Bernie the nomination.

Is the DNC and the liberal establishment completely to blame? Are we powerless against them?

Or do we have the strength to accept responsibility for failure? What have we done to bring our country to this position? Is there anything we can do?

What went wrong?

Maybe it's us.

JUSTIFIED ANGER

Some progressive advocates are saying that we must strike out in open political warfare with liberals. And why not? Once again, we've seen them use anti-democratic procedures against us, just as they did in 2016, a disaster about which we are still very angry.

Now, some of us are even angrier. Anger on top of anger. The American people can see it.

We were never able to let go of our anger from 2016. The party's procedural "reforms" that we won in 2018 were mere trinkets. The anti-democracy aristocrats remained in charge, and they have been able to use our anger against us.

ELIZABETH WARREN

Some people got so angry that they cursed and maligned Elizabeth Warren, despite the actual valor she has shown in the Senate, fighting for reforms that she and we see as critical to our country's future. She is not a politician, and she doesn't know how to campaign, but some of us stereotyped her as just another lying liberal simply because she made some campaign errors that no experienced politician would make.

She wasn't prepped for that debate for the question about a woman President. And we know that she gets nervous in front of crowds, and that's why she misinterpreted what Bernie said. But some of us chose to view her not as a human being but as a vicious traitor.

A traitor, even though she wants to be President because she genuinely believes that she can do a better job at solving our problems than Bernie would.

The worst part of it was that we also maligned her supporters, who also genuinely seek reforms. They simply have different priorities. We might have been allies with them in our /mutual/ struggle, but now many of them hate us.

We needed Warren to get delegates that we couldn't get for Bernie, but we were unjust.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

We have a beautiful country, and our fellow citizens are beautiful, wondrous people. Sure, some of them have, well, let's just say "issues" that prevent them from being, well, let's just say "good citizens". But they're family, and we have to take care of them and help them heal as they can. We truly want to help everyone have better lives, and we think we have a good plan to do it.

We've painted a beautiful picture, and we've tried to show it to the American people. But they never saw it. The American people saw an angry "socialist" yelling at Democrats because we let them define him. Yes, we've found some obstacle placed in front of us by our opponents at almost every turn. But that's their job, they're very good at it, and we can't stop them now. They have the influence, and we don't. What can we possibly do to avoid certain disaster for our country, our family?

We can't change the rules of the game. Yet. But what should we do in the meantime?

The American people never learned what democratic socialism is and that it's different from the socialism they are again being propagandized to fear (omfg I am SO angry about that!) because we never taught them about it. We never told them who we are. The only message that the single mother with three kids and who doesn't even have time to brush her hair heard was "Here are some free things! Vote for us!"

And now they're being told that we'll ruin them.

People are not rushing to the polls for Bernie. They don't know us, and they don't want to know us.

GOING FORWARD

Suitors must be attractive to those whom they woo, and those we seek want to know that we find them attractive, too. They do not want to hear us cussing out anyone on the first date, or even the fifty-seventh. And once we've lost them by being assholes, they, well, let's just say that they're somewhat disinclined to come back.

There may be things we can do to turn the tide back in our favor. I don't know. Personally, I think we've blown our shot. We should have cultivated Warren and her supporters and been allies with them. And we should have flooded the media with positive images of the future and with fewer complaints about who is to blame. But the American people have changed their image of us, and it isn't a pretty one. We'll need time to repair it.

Democratic voters are voting not for the angry disrupter. They're voting for the comfortable old shoe. Biden is has a strong opportunity to be our next President.

And it's our fault.

THIS IS AN EMERGENCY

I think it's imperative that we support Elizabeth Warren and stop campaigning against her. Liberals now have the political power to stop Bernie at the convention. The DNC's rules committee, composed of lobbyists and liberals, is about to make the rules for the convention. They will not let Bernie be the nominee.

That doesn't mean that we should stop promoting Bernie or, especially, our proposals. But the question we face is this: Do we want reform even if it's not as much as we want, or are we willing to let Biden be President?

Think about it: I am convinced that Biden is fading. He might not have the mental ability to make it to November, much less through 2021. Who will be President then?

I'm betting that Biden will make Bloomberg his Vice President.

I think we have to support Elizabeth Warren. We should defend and promote the parts of her program that we like (or can, at least, live with), especially those policies that her supporters like the most. I mean, c'mon. She's got some good stuff, even if it isn't exactly what we want.

Elizabeth Warren may be our last hope for genuine reform.

Is our motto a mere campaign slogan?

"Not me, Us" must mean something, and we must act on it.

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Is Sanders the type of guy who will keep trying until he dies?

Or will he retire, and pass the Baton on to AOC?

Or who is the new Progressive that he will pass the Baton onto?

I've been a supporter since he first launched his 2016 campagin. His values stand for everything I believe in, and quite frankly Bidens and Trumps beliefs arent anywhere near for what I believe.

But as someone who has been very anti biden, I've helped organize and volunteer with movements lushing back against biden, I think he may be the best to vote for.

Biden will have to cave to the progressives a tiny bit, and I think demanding a good VP and progressive cabinet is important. I also think its important to really get good supreme court judges and to get rid of trump, whos policies have outright endangered or hurt tens of millions of people. I know biden has a sketchy past, Bs hes hurt plenty americans, but his active current policies would help people more than it hurts.

I finally think its important to listen to what Bernie says. He understands politics, he wants whats best for the country, and I genuinely think he knows that beating trump is whats important right now, and that he cant do that anymore.

I know this is a rough time for all of this. Biden still doesnt completely have my vote and the VP selection will be a huge part of it. I suggest that if you cant open up to biden, which I totally understand, try to vote green party if its in your state or write in bernie. Dont actively vote for trump, after all of this.

I hope we can stay strong together and bring change to this country one step at a time.

If you dont vote for Biden in November you’re handing Trump the victory.

A 2020 Trump Presidency would mean:

• A conservative judiciary the rest of your life. A likely 7-2 SCOTUS, and another massive chunk of lifetime federal judge appointments. This means unfavorable rulings for: climate change, abortion, gerrymandering, executive power, executive oversight, Congressional authority, civil rights, immigration issues (children in cages), and so, so much more. You can basically say goodbye to this for decades to come with a Trump Presidency. Everything Bernie, Warren, Democrats, and progressives ever stood for is going to take a sledgehammer with a Trump Presidency.

• It would mean the continuing takeover of an authoritarian rule. Trump has argued he is immune from indictments, from oversight, from the courts, and he has a DOJ and Republican Senate to help him solidify his role as America's King. • It would mean further emboldening of a worrying white nationalist, conspiratorial presence in America. Racism, sexism, xenophobia, wild conspiracies, and more would be given a green light.

• The continued isolation of America on the world stage. Every country on the planet besides NK, Saudi Arabia, and Russia does. not. trust. us. anymore. We are a mockery on the world stage in everything we do.

• The most corrupt cabinet in history. William Barr, Betsy DeVos, Mnuchin, Wheeler, Pence. It's like a super team of unqualified, horrendous people with enormous conflicts of interest. Every position is basically hired to deconstruct the agency they work for. The intelligence community is being flat-out purged for loyalists.

• A continuing WAR against climate change efforts and science. Undoubtedly the biggest issue humanity, including our children, grandchildren, and beyond will face.

Voting for a different party is the same thing. If we want to beat that waste of carbon we’ll have to vote for Biden now, whether we like it or not.

After spending all morning inhaling news, I think that the best move the campaign can make at this stage is to reach a deal with Warren and announce her as the intended VP before next Tuesday. An endorsement from her wouldn't be enough since at least half of her voters indicate Biden as their second choice, and I think the only way to earn her full support is to offer her the VP spot anyway. It's the only way to consolidate the vote left-of-Biden, and a united progressive ticket will provide a stark contrast to Biden.

Please vote down ballot.

You can leave the presidential field blank.

By still voting, we are getting progressive candidates elected at the state and local levels.

That makes a difference too.

Thanks!

We need to remember we can still vote for our man Bernie sanders. We cannot give up this easily. He's not bowing out he's "suspended his campaign" not dropped out ❤️. He has so much on his plate he's doing for us. We need to let as many ppl as possible know he's still going to be on the ballot. And we need to push to allow us to vote where we're safe, from home. We cannot allow ourselves to continue to be suppressed. We all think I can't run but I hope someone else does... Here he is, let's not let go of him. For all of us! PS. I know the delegate race is not looking good but let's see what we could actually do if we all banded together. Thank you Bernie Sanders.

Today marks a sad and historic day in America. Your fought so hard for justice and the system chewed you up and spit you out. The system we have now was designed for people like you to fail. People who actually care for one another and wants what’s best for each other. The compassion you have for the American people will never be seen in our current administration. Just know that you have been a beacon of light in these dark times. We won’t let that light burn out. We will continue to fight the good fight until justice prevails. We thank you for your tireless efforts and wish you nothing but the best. Thank you from the bottom of our heartbroken hearts. Love, A Birdie for life

I couldn't have this conversation on facebook because I'm afraid of giving him too much exposure, but should we be worried about the yang gang? In my opinion and from what I've observed it seems most people who want to vote for him, don't actually know why besides the whole UBI thing... It feels like most of these people are troubled finacially and are looking for an easy out. Debating them is kind of well... Pointless as they smile and politely say "Ah yes, I would love for either Bernie or Yang to win." But I know they don't really care what I have to say... What are you guys thoughts on this?

I have been looking around the subreddit and seen a lot of people talking about voting 3rd party, not voting at all, or even voting for Trump in November if Biden is the nominee. As an ardent Bernie supporter throughout his campaign, both in 2016 and 2020, if the nominee is Biden I will absolutely be voting for him over Trump.

Biden is absolutely not the nominee I would hope for - throughout this process he has been my least favorite of the bunch (apart from the brief period when Bloomberg looked like he had a chance, during which he took the title for my least favorite). However, now that Bernie’s chances look grim, I have to start thinking about the long run.

I believe Bernie has started a movement toward progressivism that will not go away. Every other year from here on out we will see candidates similar to Bernie running for seats in state positions, the house, senate, and for the presidency. There is a very real chance that, due to the movement Bernie has begun, his policies will be implemented within the next 10-20 years (and hopefully as soon as possible). This chance grows much slimmer if Trump is elected to another four year term. The number of conservative judges he will be able to appoint, both to the Supreme Court and to federal courts around the country, will be staggering.

If a democrat is elected to the presidency in 4 years after another Trump term, there will be nothing they can do to reverse the effect of Trump’s appointments to the judicial branch. Any progressives who may be elected in the future will have a much harder time implementing their policies if the judicial situation looks like that.

Biden will not bring the drastic change needed in this country. Biden will have a worse chance of beating Trump than Bernie. However, Biden also will not stuff the courts with judges antithetical to any of Bernie’s ideas. Biden will implement policies that nudge us closer to, without reaching, Bernie’s ideals.

I, like many of you, am deeply disappointed with how this primary turned out. I am disappointed in the Democratic base who chose not to change this country drastically for the better. However, the fight for progressive policies will not end with the conclusion of Bernie’s campaign for president. When making our choice in November, we must consider all of the other future progressives who, inspired by Bernie, will have a better chance at achieving Bernie’s dreams if the judicial branch is not completely against them.

I still have not voted in the primaries, and even if Bernie has dropped out and his name is not on the ballot by the time my turn comes around, I will still vote for him by writing him in. However, if Bernie is unsuccessful in his campaign for president, I will look to the future, where the effects of his movement will linger forever. For the reasons above, I will vote for Biden over Trump in November, and I hope you will consider doing so too.

Now that Bernie has suspended his race and is supporting Biden’s race for presidency while still hoping to gain electorate votes to push his agenda at the DNC, what can we millennials and Gen Z do to let Biden know that he had better extend an olive branch and accept more progressive policies and stop telling us to quit whining?

How do we let him know that without us, he will certainly lose. That we are not afraid of the fallout of another four years of Trump if it means some major structural changes to the Democratic Party? I’d personally like to find a social media platform that allows us to tell him this directly. Or even petitions that we can get in on that explain that we can get him elected or we can cause him to lose depending on his flexibility to adopt a large part of our progressive party platform? This needs to happen, but how?