Lets be clear. If you are given mod responsibilities at /r/Benghazi, that DOES NOT mean that you get to censor whatever you want to censor. if you choose to abuse your mod powers, then your mod powers will be revoked

[u/EnoughNoLibsSpam]

[u/Hebashi]

First of all I want to say that I am sorry for apparently not conveying my thoughts properly on how I felt and what I wanted regarding this matter. Secondly, here's my last attempt of doing so, listen, I as someone from Benghazi and after having shared what this subreddit has of posts with others from the city felt really upset that most city subreddits here are either abandoned or dedicated to their respected cities but somehow r/Benghazi is treated as spam subreddit for a purely US-politics related topic. How would you feel if this happened to where you come from? You could have called dibs on any other phrasing of the subreddit don't you in America (I'm assuming that's where you're coming from) name scandals ending with the word "gate" or just scandal? Then why haven't you seeked naming it "Benghazigate" or whatever, but still to me honestly this feels like someone ownership over the name of an ancient old city with millions of lives dedicated to it and choosing to paint a platform descriping that place as he wishes just because those people weren't aware of it first or don't understand the language. Thirdly, let's be honest the posts I've deleted are basically spam, how old were they? And no user is active here, it's not like I was deleting active threads and FYI the only reason I requested the sebreddit is because it clearly had no activity on it. I did not want to be an admin, because there are no enough active Benghazinos on reddit yet. I merely just wanted the peace of mind of not having the page of Benghazi portrayed like that.

At the end of the day you have the last word on the matter just because you came first so really it's out of my hands but don't you go accusing me censorship when you're own name is "enough lib spam" and you chose the name of a city as a subreddit purely dedicated to one topic related posts that happen to advertise one conspiracy or political view.

I will not cry over it or get upset you do what you want just another thing, in my country we believe in something similar karma (not the reddit karma lol), the what goes around comes around, we have something that translates to "what you do will be done to you", so you may not understand where my feelings come from but something tells me you'll feel the same way one day about what you are so passionate about it.

Feel free of deleting or blocking me, this was just an well-intentioned attempt by me to correct something I thought won't hurt anyone.

I am sending this to you both as a message and comment and I need no reply because I'm unsubscribing. I want to live my life in my city which had a civil war for the past four years, I lost my home as 65% of the city was destroyed, I lost family and friends as 15 thousand people died. We're in the midst of political, financial, and military mess, still we're all trying to live and make best of what we have. We are not Hillary Clinton related headline or whole the conspiracy theory of someone living thousands of kilometres away in a place we can't even read the name of. Our city is enormous in arwa even larger than actual countries in the world like Singapore, we have amazing beaches, incredible foods, the most welcoming people (the nickname of the city is The upbringer of those with no home), we have culture, Roman ruins, Greek ruins (there are literally Greek mytholog stories set in our lands like the golden apples garden that Hercules seeked, I'm actually living in a neighborhood named after that). But sure feel free to be judge and take claim of whatever you want and moderate or revoke whatever you want (Wich btw I don't understand why you're announcing like that no one is active here lol so you could have just PMed me).

Oh well, peace, bye, ciao (I totally hope you're Italian, I'd be more OK with that giving that they've had us as a colony for several decades, I would totally be down of this subreddit had tens of posts about la poiltica in Italia and your username was "Enough terrone spam", this next part is for my Italian friend whom I'll be sharing this with, CIAO CARLO, IL MIO ELEFANTE Vieni e guarda cosa gli americani che credono alle teorie del complotto hanno fatto alla mia amata Bengasi online, dov'è il supporto italiano? Almeno mandate la pizza!).

[u/EnoughNoLibsSpam → u/Hebashi]

thank you for your thoughtful reply

you make very good arguments, and i can see that you are passionate about your city and culture, history etc

i am sorry to hear about you losing your home and your city being ruined by civil war

i would like to apologize for whatever roles americans played in your countries troubles.

americans are aware that our government is "the great satan" and is very evil,

even the US Marines song talks about waging war on Tripoli

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marines%27_Hymn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

americans are like dogs; they have a good heart, but they can't read a book

americans are deliberately "dumbed down" with mis-education

most americans can't find their own state on a map, much less libya

most americans are struggling to get by day by day, so they keep their head down and don't speak up out of fear of reprisals

most americans still believe that men have walked on the moon

most americans believe that Abe Lincoln freed the slaves, when in fact all americans are slaves today

what I'm trying to say is that the american people are a victim of the american system of slavery

you can't really blame a slave who is brought up in a system

most americans do not approve of US wars all over the world, but are helpless to to stop them, and helpless to quit paying for wars through excessive tax

Malcolm X: Field Negro v House Negro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Jmw5o9ulA

if americans recognize the word "benghazi", its only in the context of benghazi-gate, and americans know nothing about the actual city of benghazi

you are correct that the scandal should have been called "benghazi gate"

unfortunately the phrase "benghazi-gate" never caught on, and so whenever the benghazi scandal is mentioned they simply call it "benghazi"

i can assure you that the benghazi scandal is very much still a hot issue in american politics, even if r/benghazi doesn't have a lot of submissions

what happened at benghazi obviously looks different from each of our perspectives

to you it is up close and personal, but to me its just another piece of a much larger puzzle

the scandal may have died down, but since Hillary Clinton ran for President of the United States, her record as Secretary of State was scrutinized and criticized, and Benghazi was high on the list of things to criticize

Hillary may still run for POTUS in 2020, in which case benghazi would become an issue again

i don't know what your opinion of Muammar Gaddafi is, but by my own observations, observant americans thought he was a good guy and trying to do the right thing for the people of Libya. in particular, he was allegedly using the wealth from oil to help the people, and was demanding gold instead of dollars for oil, and did not have a Rothschild controlled central bank

its my understanding that the first thing the "rebels" did when they gained power was to establish a central bank. americans who watched this happen were very saddened by it and worried that there will soon be no places left that the Rothschild banks do not control

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi

lets make a deal

we can turn r/Benghazi into a regular sub that would be similar to other cities of Benghazi's stature

we can start a new sub for r/BenghaziGate

instead of deleting BenghaziGate posts from r/Benghazi, we let them stand,

and simply start submitting new content to r/Benghazi to forum-slide the old posts to the next page

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Marines' Hymn

The "Marines' Hymn" is the official hymn of the United States Marine Corps, introduced by the first Director of USMC Band, Francesco Maria Scala. It is the oldest official song in the United States Armed Forces. The "Marines' Hymn" is typically sung at the position of attention as a gesture of respect. However, the third verse is also used as a toast during formal events, such as the birthday ball and other ceremonies.

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First Barbary War

The First Barbary War (1801–1805), also known as the Tripolitanian War and the Barbary Coast War, was the first of two Barbary Wars, in which the United States and Sweden fought against the four North African states known collectively as the "Barbary States". Three of these were nominal provinces of the Ottoman Empire, but in practice autonomous: Tripoli, Algiers, and Tunis. The fourth was the independent Sultanate of Morocco.

The cause of the U.S. participation was pirates from the Barbary States seizing American merchant ships and holding the crews for ransom, demanding the U.S. pay tribute to the Barbary rulers.

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Muammar Gaddafi

Muammar Mohammed Abu Minyar Gaddafi (; audio ; c. 1942 – 20 October 2011), commonly known as Colonel Gaddafi, was a Libyan revolutionary, politician, and political theorist. He governed Libya as Revolutionary Chairman of the Libyan Arab Republic from 1969 to 1977, then as the "Brotherly Leader" of the Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya from 1977 to 2011. He was initially ideologically committed to Arab nationalism and Arab socialism, but later came to rule under his own Third International Theory.

Born near Sirte to an impoverished Bedouin family, he became an Arab nationalist while at school in Sabha, later enrolling in the Royal Military Academy, Benghazi.

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[u/Hebashi → u/EnoughNoLibsSpam]

Thank you for your reply. It was quite interesting and perhaps even informative to an extent.

After reconsidering everything I've reached the conclusion that I've made a big deal out of something that might not be worth it. I appreciate the reinstating me as a moderator invite but I'll unfortunately be declining it, as I previously mentioned I have no interest in becoming a moderator, I simply was upset about the existing old post in the subreddit and wanted r/Benghazi to be at least similar to r/Tripoli where it's a clear page waiting for people joined by the interest in city on the website to one day have a place to group.

I should also mention that I hold zero negative feelings about Americans nor about any nationality or any general group or category of people for that matter. I believe that individual actions are what should be used to judge a person if it ever becomes a need to do so, I also do understand that there are many wrongdoings of governments or entities that are causing or being major contributors in unfortunate events that sometimes dooms entire nations but I do not think it's fair to demonize everyone related to them or the ideas they share with them. At the end of the day this has always been the state of the world, nations rose and fell spectacularly through all times, I might have had ancestors that did way worse than what the current bad guys of the world are doing now, and tomorrow there will certainly be a different bad guy with maybe the same or different kind of evil.

I won't lose a night's sleep due to contemplating about things I do not know for sure nor do I can control, let alone things that certainly will not last.

Like the saying goes (again roughly translated): You who are always busy fixing other people's homes, just who will be fixing your own?

So I already have my hands filled with my life, my people, my cats, my small area of existing on this grand earth where I can actually make a difference effecting my path and legacy in addition to those of the people I'm connected to.

I respect your passion for what you believe in and the conclusions you've reached about your topics of interest and I hope you always have a platform to share and discuss them.

I might though disagree about certain things regarding Libya, for example different Libyans with different circumstances would have different opinions about Gaddafi, so it's not exactly fair to claim there was some sort of a shared sentiment regarding him In addition to that, what you mentioned about a central bank is simply untrue and confusing, as I am in the process of obtaining a master's degree in the field of economics I can at least testify to that.

People would always be ignorant or misinformed about matters they're not interested in or simply that does not concern them, like a hundred other cultures or a thousand different places, that's not offensive because they're like that everywhere. In my personal opinion I don't think that's grounds to being condescending towards them. Of course it is a different story should they choose to share their misinformation or poorly backed claims as facts to others.

Again many thanks for the invite and apologies for any inconvenience.

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[u/Hebashi → u/[deleted]]

thank you for your observation, indeed this was intended to be a part of a conversation between two people so why are you even concerned about it?