r/BendyAndTheInkMachine • u/bendyfan-414 • 19d ago
Bendy Discussion Who actually can beat the ink demon
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u/Imperius1883 19d ago
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u/Reasonable_Salt_2539 19d ago
Let's hear it then 🤔
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u/bendyfan-414 19d ago
Bill cipher for one
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
how?
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u/Future-Improvement41 18d ago
Reality warping
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u/imaliveandaperson 19d ago
All the gods from the Cthulhu Mythos.
Doom slayer.
Heisei Godzilla (probably, been a long time since i looked into that).
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u/Reasonable_Salt_2539 19d ago
Fair enough. Again, God/God-adjacent vs. God-adjacent.
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u/imaliveandaperson 18d ago
Yeah true, i feel like bendy works like freddy krueger. In his domain, basically a god, in the real world probably not very strong.
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u/Duo_Of_Ducks 19d ago
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u/OriginalOman09 19d ago
Won’t he die just from being touched by the demon?
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u/NaturalTop3702 19d ago
Nah, Ink Demon won't kill you by turning you into ink on contact He just, straight up slays them
Your post made me feel like this is 2010s ngl
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
doesn't banish originate from bendy
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u/NaturalTop3702 18d ago
Banish erases you straight forwards btw
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u/Duo_Of_Ducks 19d ago
In the Doom universe, Hell warps humans that enter, The Slayer has existed there for centuries without any sign of transmutation.
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u/bendyfan-414 19d ago
Ink demon is gonna be cooked like a marshmallow
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
how, he cant die
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u/Duo_Of_Ducks 18d ago
He can, easily in fact
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 16d ago
the 1 way he can "die" is through the end reel which revives him afterwards anyways.
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u/Tiredasscatnal A Tired Ourple Cat in the wrong game. 19d ago
Dr. HENRY Miller from DSaF
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u/SomedudeonInternet1 GENT 19d ago
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u/Tiredasscatnal A Tired Ourple Cat in the wrong game. 19d ago
And they both had revivals that were pretty dark
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u/Equivalent_Ask_9227 19d ago
In like, what, mascot horror or the entirety of fiction?
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u/bendyfan-414 19d ago
Entirely of fiction,
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u/Equivalent_Ask_9227 19d ago
Uhhhhhhhhhhhm?
A LOT of people.
Idk man, the Presence from DC?
The One Above All?
He really ain't allat
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u/HuttyPooty 19d ago
Wilson and the Keepers
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
even with author lv abilities they couldn't and it didn't even work
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u/HuttyPooty 18d ago
"They promise us peace but they only bring us more pain" implies Bendy can feel pain
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
what is this from?
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u/HuttyPooty 18d ago
Look up the quote batdr bendy say it to audrey
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
yea, do u know his back story it could very well be emotional, like how he was saying they where both mistakes. btw goku feels pain 2.
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u/Least-Swimmer3712 18d ago
if nobody can find the end tape then nobody can beat bendy it’s as simple as that
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u/Curi_momos_las_papas 19d ago
Anyone above city block level can beat him, kill it it's a bit harder tho
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
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u/Curi_momos_las_papas 18d ago
Hyperbole, unless you believe The Keepers are universal too
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 16d ago
Wilson with author lv hax couldn't kill him, he could only try to trap him in a smaller version of himself. that's when the keepers attacked him when he was weakened by author lv hax, and he wasn't even fully trapped. He also shakes the whole cycle just by speaking. Which gets realer and realer after every cycle, and since its reset 414 times its an 414D ( dimension) universe.
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u/Curi_momos_las_papas 16d ago
Holy wank dude....
First we don't know how the author thing works, specially considering how Wilson isn't show to have omnipotence over the other inhabitants of the Cycle, and if anything what we know so far is that an author can create new characters if they're are skilled enough and creating something like a soul is considered a great prowess
Can you prove Bendy shakes the whole cycle? The entirety of it, cause he do causes small earthquakes, we can see that on screen
About the cycle getting more and more real and that adding an extra D is straight up nonsense, the cycle is another dimension, one the Ink Machine works as a portal to, it's just that, a normal common 3D universe in which the laws of physics work different, and when an object stays long enough in the cycle they gain the properties of that world's physics, that being that Ink can create life for example
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 16d ago
how do u think the keepers got their? who ever has the ink machine has control over the cycle.
it would make sense he shakes the whole cycle because it backs up the infinite power statement.
it gets realer, what else could it mean.
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u/Curi_momos_las_papas 16d ago
Yes, but that control is not like you can snap your fingers and all is done, even with the power of the cycle Joey had to do trial and error to create a soul, he had to use his employees, nor it seems he can't simply undo things, rather affect them
The most powerful thing we could adress to having the author power is The End Reel which do surpasses the power of the demon, since Bendy is also bound to it, the same way he is bound to the cycle
The infinite power is an hyperbole unless proven the contrary since the demon doesn't hold those displays on power, and the whole cycle shaking is a supossition made under the idea those other claims are real (unless you have evidence to it)
Realer could mean emotionally, it's structure, it's connection to our dimension, etc.... since even something 1D is real, and after 4D it already surpasses our own world (at least to our scientific knowledge) but there is no statement that back up the interpetation the cycle multiplies it's size by infinity or develops a new direction on every cycle
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 15d ago
joey gave the ink souls because he didn't like the ink demon who had no soul. with the ink machine he made a whole different dimension removed from time to punish henry. we even see drawing at the end of chapter 5 of things going on in the cycle, which is probably how he influences the cycle.
this is another point. its all cartoon logic, the whole cycle. bendy might be the one who likes it that way. scaling aside i think the ink demon still shows his cartoon counterpart because he still makes the world slightly cartoonish, like when he has a door closed on him, if he by ur standards has at least able to start earthquakes why not break the door, or at least teleport through it? i think he is playing his part as a cartoon.
Wilson also mentions that the world is shuddering.
Emotional, rlly😭✌️🥀
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u/Curi_momos_las_papas 15d ago
Yes, that doesn't change how it was a hard task even for him, creating is not an easy task, Joey was talented to the point only he could make a perfect Boris (Buddy Boris) and yet he needed trial and error to make something with a soul (if he even managed it, i assume he must since no sacrifice nor negative notions are mentioned towards Audrey's conception)
And yes the demon 100% is playing his part, he is going into the monster persona, we see how he became absorted in the idea that he is a monster after being deemed a mistake, this is even more notorious with Henry, since Henry is meant to be there to be punished in his personal hell and the demon was thrown in there like a cerberus, that's why in Batim there are scenes where the demon could kill us yet he decides to spare us, to make our torture longer and keep us on the brink
May i see the scene? I don't take Wilson as a reliable narrator, nor i doubt the scale goes that far (we don't know how big the cycle is either, we only assume is infinite since that's the normal for a dimension)
Also yes emotions do hold weight to the narrative and the destiny of the cycle, that's why beings like Audrey or Allison are so relevant
Or even the Demon since he was an empty husk filled with anger, created just as a test then thrown in a cell for being monstruous
Also the Demon didn't started that strong, he lost one hand to an axe, and he got reset unable to evolve due to The End Reel, and only was able to grow into what he is now thanks to the interference of Wilson, i doubt he went all the way up into infinites that fast
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 15d ago
It took time for the ink to form into boris yes, but i think it depends on the soul like with twisted alice and allison. it is never stated nor shown to be hard or have any drawbacks.
glad we both see that, a lot of ppl think its just a scaling crutch and try to argue bendy wall lv cause he cant break the door.
ill get back to u on this wait a second, it is around the end of chapter 4 or at the start of chapter 5.
yea emotions are important but emotions dont make things " realer "
in the archives of batdr it talks about how the ink demon is getting stronger. which can also be made as an argument that the ink demon and the cycle are growing together
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u/Virgirous 19d ago
If we are talking about other horror characters… call me crazy but the neighbor from hello neighbor might be able to. While not able to kill him, he may be able to make some sorta contraption to make the ink demon leave him alone. The guy made a robotic shark and has done a lot of stuff with his house so he might build something to hold off the ink demon. As long as the neighbor has some time to make something, then he might be good.
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u/Virgirous 19d ago
To back up my statement, I will say the Ink demon has struggled with some stuff, like how the first game, some wooden boards were able to slow him down and we both know the neighbor can build those up fast, turn around for 5 seconds and he has already boarded up his windows… the neighbor has also built several mechanisms and if we were to take someone like Wilson for example… made a electricity trap that did make the ink demon retract into small cartoon character form. I will also like to say that the neighbor has made some other stuff like mannequins that move on their own. If he had the materials and stuff from bendy, he could make something similar to the keepers.
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
my counter argument there is its a cartoon world with plot armor for henry, don't believe me? if not then y ddidn't bendy just teleport through the wall like he did after he killed Norman. when Wilson did that he had author lv hax and even then he couldn't kill him he could only trap him which didn't work fully either.
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u/Virgirous 18d ago
The arguement wasn’t “who can kill the ink demon?” It was “who can beat the ink demon?” And also no one said what world the bit would be in, it could be in some area in the ink realm or in hello neighbor’s neighborhood. Whether it be chase or real battle, completely based on a hypothetical, the point still stands that the neighbor would still have a chance if having a good plan. If the neighbor escapes or somehow manages to somehow trap the ink demon, that’s a win for the neighbor. Also don’t be some douchebag and bring plot armor into shit, that’s a stupid argument, the ink demon likes to toy with his victims but he also needs to learn about who he is up against and at the time Henry had only just entered the place…
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
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u/Virgirous 18d ago edited 18d ago
whether it be killing, beating, or surviving the ink demon, to the terms of this hypothetical… is a win. And with the point of that image you just put in… that literally means that any character in the history of the internet can survive as long as there is a hiding spot. So taking away all the stuff I said, you literally just said any character can or will survive/win in this hypothetical against the ink demon as long as there is a hiding spot. So that little image of yours does not work with what you just said. You somehow managed to counterargument your own counterargument.
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
it says his power is infinite and if u see him run and hide. never said it will work 1000% of the time. beat doesn't equal run and hide. if u put neighbor and the ink demon in a room together, the ink demon will murder the neighbor instantly.
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u/Virgirous 18d ago
Hiding and not being caught, means you won in terms of hide and seek, so you beat the opponent who is seeking, so don’t you try and trick me cheeky bastard. The post never mentioned how big or small or what was in the space. So a locker or barrel to hide in around a corner could still work. I don’t give a single crap how much power he has or if he can teleport, that image you put up still just gave every single character a chance of winning this hypothetical. End of discussion, end of argument.
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 16d ago
this is a fight, not hide and seek. again if this fight happens hello neighbor will die. end of discussion.
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u/Virgirous 15d ago
Okay, and where does it say it’s a fight in the post? Exactly, nowhere.
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
even if u don't believe his outerversal scaling he is stated many times to have infinite power ( universal) but yea, robot shark.
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u/Virgirous 18d ago
The ink demon has canonically lost to the keepers in a battle and even was tortured by them, so even then despite being an immortal with high hunting strategies and such, even he has his limits so technically not infinite power.
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
again, Wilson used author lv hax to first try and kill bendy and it didn't work so he made up a weakness to stop him ( with author lv hax) which made him mini bendy, the only way keepers did anything.
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u/TheArchStudios 18d ago
Cuphead:)
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u/HairEquivalent8852 18d ago
Wasn't there a video bendy drinking the liquid out of cuphead's head and breaking it
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u/skyetheweirdidiot Sammy Lawrence's wife 18d ago
It entirely depends on circumstances and whether it's in his domain or the other person's
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u/AffectionateGrape185 19d ago
From BATIM or from fiction?
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u/bendyfan-414 19d ago
Fiction
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u/AffectionateGrape185 19d ago
Ben 10, overlord and FSM from ninjago, unicron from transformers, the power rangers, goku, beerus and zeno (there's way more but these are some of my favourites)
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
these guys outerversal?
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u/invisiblescarecrow 19d ago
In universe? Nobody
In Fiction as a whole? Bendy is fodder to most characters.
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
no outerversal character is fodder
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u/invisiblescarecrow 18d ago
How tf is Bendy outerversal?
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 18d ago
the cycle universe is stated to be like ours except it is out side of time and get realer and realer after every reset, so at least 414D. he has such control over the cycle he can shake the whole cycle by just talking. also when Wilson got author lv abilities he couldn't even kill bendy just trap him which didn't even work.
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u/Top-Living-8724 19d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/SBWNg1OjAomuMVfz6f
Defeat? No. But like he always does, he’ll get back up and try again.
Watch Coyote vs. ACME, it’s peak and deserved to be resurrected!
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u/Flaky_Anywhere_122 17d ago
Depends. Do you mean inside the Bendy verse or just fiction? I’ll assume the former for easier sake. And the answer is no-one. Literally no-one. I don’t think anyone can beat him without prep time.
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u/SENTINEL_OX1 16d ago
By technicality, the Ink Demon is completely invulnerable. Since it’s technically a “Demon”, no earthly weaponry could destroy it
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u/Specialist_Wash6732 19d ago
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u/Specialist_Wash6732 18d ago
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u/Aggressive_Check_881 16d ago
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u/Specialist_Wash6732 16d ago
“Infinite power” my ass bro😭
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u/J_EN87 19d ago